OT: Las Vegas active shooter
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"It took place with an armed insurrection in Petrograd on the 25th of October (7 November, New Style) 1917."-- wikipedia
His girlfriend knows. The one who went to the concert hours before the shooting and told them they would all die. She holds the clues and prolly knows the answer.
Aaaaaaaand clob called it. AP, CNN, NBC, CBS all reporting that he modified his weapons with a bump stock. I've fired full auto as well as bump stock before. You can hear the difference.
Ok---- everything I've seen there is but one female witness saying a "mexican" woman told them they were all going to die. The news reported at 4am that they had this dudes "Philippino" girlfriend in custody. Then they later reported she was "out of the country".
It either means she was "out of the country, but still in custody" by an organization like Interpol, or she was grabbed by feds and flown immediately out of country to a black site to be questioned.
She is out of the country. Supposedly he used her credentials. What I want to know is why he did it. He obviously loves guns so why shoot up a bunch of country loving and 2nd Amendment supporters. Ok probably not all of them but most right? I'm with Clob it just doesn't make sense. I'm not saying he didn't do it just think it's really odd.
It's the $100 per pull one armed poker bandit. I don't care how much money you "have". Those things are for SUCKERS. At least play the cards because the odds are around 55% house and 45% gambler. The programmed video slots are a complete scam. I am convinced that the video poker slots are monitored and payout when the casino can maximize bang for buck. DISCLOSURE: I don't gamble precisely because I know the odds are terrible. I have seen these casinos destroy my family members and this dude snapped b/c accumulated debt and prolly a horrible losing streak.
I just read that he tried to sue the Cosmopolitan a few years ago for "falling" in the casino.
Dude had 26 guns at the Mandalay Bay and more at his home. Nuts!
Dude had 26 guns at the Mandalay Bay and more at his home. Nuts!
Oh man the conspiracy theorist are already chiming in (none on this forum). "It was the 4th floor not the 32nd because I seen flashing lights" (in Vegas mind you) but no broken windows on the 4th. People flashing lights are all up and down the strip and around Vegas. Mandalay Bay makes money but there's not enough time to replace a window in a matter of hours. THERE ARE NO balconies at the Mandalay Bay.
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It wasn't going to happen directly on that day there was a fair warning of all this before it happened.
It amazes me how common sense or logical thinking escapes people.
How the hell he get all that into a hotel room? A casino hotel no less?
That shit doesnt just fit in a backpack.
You pack it in luggage and put it on a cart and take it to your room. Has anyone ever stopped and asked you what was in your luggage at a hotel? I would think the size and crowd of a casino hotel lobby would make it even easier not more difficult. I've heard a lot of comments about this and I don't understand why anyone thinks it would be difficult.
He was there since Thursday that's how. I'm sure some of those weapons break apart right? All it takes is a big luggage bag.
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"So the discovery that he had used 10 suitcases to methodically move an arsenal up into his Mandalay Bay room over the preceding weekend came as a shock to those who knew him."
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Ok boys. Here's how easy this is.
All AR type rifles break down into two parts: an upper and a lower. There's further disassembly that can take place like removing the barrel and quad rail around the barrel. Once this is done, the components would fit nicely in a big ol' hard cover golf bag.... or two.
So, you pull your suv into the parking lot, your guns are disassembled in the back of it. You've already got two golf backs filled with guns and a rolling bag with mags and ammo.
You check in with golf bags and rolling bag and head up to the room. You're here to play golf.....it appears to everyone at the front desk.
So after you get settled in, you empty your bags and a little later, you head back downstairs with your golf bag. Head over to your car and fill your empty bag up with more guns. With all the comings and goings you decide to take a different elevator set back up to your floor to avoid people at the front desk going "didn't he just leave? And he's already back?".
You head back upstairs, empty your bag and relax for a while. A couple hours later, you go back down the new elevators, walk to your truck fill the bag again and this time go back by the front desk as if you're returning from your three hour golf outing.
This is "trade craft" and it's simple.
All AR type rifles break down into two parts: an upper and a lower. There's further disassembly that can take place like removing the barrel and quad rail around the barrel. Once this is done, the components would fit nicely in a big ol' hard cover golf bag.... or two.
So, you pull your suv into the parking lot, your guns are disassembled in the back of it. You've already got two golf backs filled with guns and a rolling bag with mags and ammo.
You check in with golf bags and rolling bag and head up to the room. You're here to play golf.....it appears to everyone at the front desk.
So after you get settled in, you empty your bags and a little later, you head back downstairs with your golf bag. Head over to your car and fill your empty bag up with more guns. With all the comings and goings you decide to take a different elevator set back up to your floor to avoid people at the front desk going "didn't he just leave? And he's already back?".
You head back upstairs, empty your bag and relax for a while. A couple hours later, you go back down the new elevators, walk to your truck fill the bag again and this time go back by the front desk as if you're returning from your three hour golf outing.
This is "trade craft" and it's simple.
Pretty much sounds right also he must have kept them in the bags until Sunday or just did all that back and forth stuff Sunday.
Now for the reason? His daddy was a psychopath himself.
I'm going with one of these as motive-
DOJ says he wired 100k to Philippines a few days before. He was an accountant by trade- hasn't worked since 1988- self made yet claims to be a "professional gambler". Dudes use that line when they don't want you to know how they make their money. Perhaps he was laundering money for an organization and was skimming, got caught, decided to go down in a blaze.
2. Dude had a Charles Whitman sized tumor and rapidly started losing rational brain function, but could keep it together long enough to deal with ppl in "spurts". People like neighbors, gun dealers etc saw this regular Joe, but when he was home alone, he was cooking kittens in the microwave and masturbating in his own poop. It could explain why his girlfriend was back in the Philippines. Perhaps she saw the regression was advancing rapidly and she fled. He gets desperate and wires her 100k to try and "buy" her trust back--- she says "fvck off, we are through...." and keeps the money. He goes off the edge and snaps.
3. Dude was a closet political wacko. He hated the election results so much that after November, he decides to start buying guns legally and then converts them to "automatic like" fire legally. Knowing the only way to actually get Americans to pass tighter gun laws, he takes advantage of these technology loopholes "Bump stocks" to create these wicked killing machines. Because he spends a lot in casinos, he's probably got comps all over town so he finds an open air concert full of what he would consider 2nd amendment loving Trump supporters (a country music concert) and uses his comps to reserve a specific room over looking the concert. The "I'll show them!" mentality kicks in and he's going to make a statement about guns, once and for all. 60 dead people and hundreds wounded later---- here we are.
DOJ says he wired 100k to Philippines a few days before. He was an accountant by trade- hasn't worked since 1988- self made yet claims to be a "professional gambler". Dudes use that line when they don't want you to know how they make their money. Perhaps he was laundering money for an organization and was skimming, got caught, decided to go down in a blaze.
2. Dude had a Charles Whitman sized tumor and rapidly started losing rational brain function, but could keep it together long enough to deal with ppl in "spurts". People like neighbors, gun dealers etc saw this regular Joe, but when he was home alone, he was cooking kittens in the microwave and masturbating in his own poop. It could explain why his girlfriend was back in the Philippines. Perhaps she saw the regression was advancing rapidly and she fled. He gets desperate and wires her 100k to try and "buy" her trust back--- she says "fvck off, we are through...." and keeps the money. He goes off the edge and snaps.
3. Dude was a closet political wacko. He hated the election results so much that after November, he decides to start buying guns legally and then converts them to "automatic like" fire legally. Knowing the only way to actually get Americans to pass tighter gun laws, he takes advantage of these technology loopholes "Bump stocks" to create these wicked killing machines. Because he spends a lot in casinos, he's probably got comps all over town so he finds an open air concert full of what he would consider 2nd amendment loving Trump supporters (a country music concert) and uses his comps to reserve a specific room over looking the concert. The "I'll show them!" mentality kicks in and he's going to make a statement about guns, once and for all. 60 dead people and hundreds wounded later---- here we are.
Dude had tons of cash invested in this. PHotos from the room are very revealing. There're 100 round mags stacked, 15 plus. As Clob mentioned, several bump stocks and he videod himself. You've got to wonder if his manifesto is on that tape.
He seriously thought this out so for no one in his family or friends to even notice is just odd. I mean he never said anything off the wall. He had 23 guns, video equipment in the hallway and room ,ammunition out the wazoo, picked a festival with 20k+, a room high enough to have a vantage point and brought a heavy duty hammer to bust out the windows.
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