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Stop ruining the OU thread! This is the best thread on the board and you aggies are ruining it.
Don't you ever wonder why in the world there are more University of Texas at Austin graduation certificates hanging on the wall in the Corporate world and Private sector then any other school?
Back to your regularly scheduled gooner butt kicking.
The difference is that in the early 200's if Texas wasn't at the top of her game, and blOwU wasn't at the top of her game, Tech would have been winning lots and lots of conference titles and getting their asses handed to them in major bowl games because of lack of defense. (sound familiar). Right now Texas is starting to turn the corner and get back to where it used to be. There is no Oklahoma at the top of it's game because you are the Oklahoma. Only your team and coach are basically Pirate 2.0. It's been that way even before Stoops left. I'd say it started when you fired the wrong DC.
Now you are stuck trying to buck the trend, but it takes time and the right DC. On the other side Texas has the right Defensive coaches to stop any offense. We are close to getting the right players and depth in place.
The difference is that in the early 200's if Texas wasn't at the top of her game, and blOwU wasn't at the top of her game, Tech would have been winning lots and lots of conference titles and getting their asses handed to them in major bowl games because of lack of defense. (sound familiar). Right now Texas is starting to turn the corner and get back to where it used to be. There is no Oklahoma at the top of it's game because you are the Oklahoma. Only your team and coach are basically Pirate 2.0. It's been that way even before Stoops left. I'd say it started when you fired the wrong DC.
Now you are stuck trying to buck the trend, but it takes time and the right DC. On the other side Texas has the right Defensive coaches to stop any offense. We are close to getting the right players and depth in place.
"There is no Oklahoma at the top of it's game because you are the Oklahoma. Only your team and coach are basically Pirate 2.0. It's been that way even before Stoops left. I'd say it started when you fired the wrong DC.
Now you are stuck trying to buck the trend, but it takes time and the right DC. On the other side Texas has the right Defensive coaches to stop any offense. We are close to getting the right players and depth in place."
Lincoln Riley 2 years @OU: Tom Herman 2 years @UT:
24-4 -17-10
2 Big12 Championships - 0 Big12 Championships
2 Playoff Berths - 0 Playoff Berths
4-1 vs. Rivals - 1-2 vs. Rivals
7 All Americans - 2 All Americans
2 Heisman Trophy Winners - 0 Heisman Trophy Winners
4 Draft Picks - 4 Draft Picks
1 1st Round Draft Pick - 0 1st Round Draft Picks
7 Major Trophy Winners - 1 Major Trophy Winner
Riley better start fixin' that draft pick thing or they are gonna' be in a world of Hurt.
Solid prediction, I’d say, based on everything except game time performance and actual stats. I’m sure the practice notes are confidence builders, but OU and Texas plays the same nobodies; Texas drops 3-4, OU doesn’t lose. OU has half as many Heisman trophies as loses the last two years. 17-10 , 24-4....I guess at least Austin is a millennial orgy ?¿?
Just wait a couple more days and the difference in 1st rounders will widen further.
Agree with this decision and apologies on behalf of my fellow Sooners. I didn't see anything racist there at all and was just as miffed as you were.
My guess is he was purely trolling to get booted. If not, well, that was truly embarrassing.
That said, does seem like the Mod here has gotten a bit trigger happy. Kinda killed the thread.
Oh well . . .
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Tech being your pick for being the third best team in the big 12 in the early 2000s is not a valid method of comparing them to OU, who has dominated the conference for nearly two decades. There's no what-ifs, this is what they did do. OU recruits better, has had better players and coaches, more rings and more trophies, more all americans, heismans and draft picks. It's just not a comparison a reasonable minded person who doesnt hate OU would make. Especially since they have exactly zero championships and OU has owned the conference almost since it's inception. And the 20-6 record vs them doesnt hurt either. Texas is closer to being tech, with their lack of trophies It is humorous though, to try to compare the complete failure of a program that is texas tech to a program who has been to 3 of the past 4 playoffs, recruits at an elite level, and is as close as OU is to turning the corner and becoming one of the elites instead of just really, really good. Btw, Riley is twice the recruiter stoops and leach ever were and that is already paying off big dividends. You are kidding yourself if you think that they arent trending in the right direction because they got the coach and scheme they want, and all they need are the players. Like it or not, elite kids on d are looking at OU, and that hasnt happened in a long time. your team isnt the only one capable of improvement. Good days ahead!
Good post, imo.
It is always a cringer to me when the explanation for a lost recruit is that the other guys were cheating.
Happens on every board, though.
Maybe I am a big 12 Homer, but I think the only schools where cheating is reasonably suspected are perrennial SEC wannabes (e.g. Ole Miss, Tennessee, etc.) who are so far out of contention that they really don't have much choice if they want to compete. Like Baylor was.
With the hire of Jimbo, Aggie is sadly going to be sliding down that slippery slope before too long.
Whole lot of people that don't know where Watts ranks as a DB in Texas.
Also, a whole lot of people that are completely unaware of OU's advantage in recruiting DFW from integrating first. OU rode that history until VY showed otherwise and then late career Mack blew all that good will.
Also, a whole lot of people that are completely unaware of OU's advantage in recruiting DFW from integrating first. OU rode that history until VY showed otherwise and then late career Mack blew all that good will.
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OU is legit and has skins on the wall, as does Texas. a&m? nope. nadda. So, to my point, Texas and OU are big dogs. a&m is not.
No, I'm just not going to allow childish OU trolls to come over here and act disrespectful towards Texas and Longhorn posters on a Longhorn board. These guys acted like a bunch of junior high punks yesterday and they got shut down. They tried to kill this thread, but didn't succeed.
I understand hitting eject switch on the poster that cried racism for no reason.
As for the rest, that sort of opening post is an invitation to a somewhat hostile reception on a free board where everyone knows that Sooners lurk. Lose a recruit - accuse a whole program of cheating. He probably wanted a roil. If not, then he's more than a little naive.
Point is, If the OP is going to invite it, then maybe you don't need to fight it.
What you're missing is the fact that about 25 or so OU fans who had never posted here started posting immature, inflammatory and confrontational comments. No mod worth his salt is going to let that go on. I stand by banning these people. They added no constructive, respectful or intelligent commentary. One Sooner poster claimed that someone posted a link to this thread on Sooner Scoop and then the childish posts from zero post count Sooner trolls started appearing out of nowhere. You seem like a reasonable, mature, rational person. Not that it really matters, but I'm not understanding why you think that I was "trigger happy" in banning these types. I can 100% guarantee you that if Longhorn posters acted this way and did the same thing over at SS that they'd be banned as well.
"Lincoln Riley 2 years @OU: Tom Herman 2 years @UT:
24-4 -17-10
2 Big12 Championships -0 Big12 Championships
2 Playoff Berths - 0 Playoff Berths
4-1 vs. Rivals - 1-2 vs. Rivals
7 All Americans - 2 All Americans
2 Heisman Trophy Winners - 0 Heisman Trophy Winners
4 Draft Picks - 4 Draft Picks
1 1st Round Draft Pick - 0 1st Round Draft Picks
7 Major Trophy Winners - 1 Major Trophy Winner"
While we are at it.......lets throw in playoff wins
Riley....0 Herman....0
Bowl wins
Riley 0 Herman 2
24-4 -17-10
2 Big12 Championships -0 Big12 Championships
2 Playoff Berths - 0 Playoff Berths
4-1 vs. Rivals - 1-2 vs. Rivals
7 All Americans - 2 All Americans
2 Heisman Trophy Winners - 0 Heisman Trophy Winners
4 Draft Picks - 4 Draft Picks
1 1st Round Draft Pick - 0 1st Round Draft Picks
7 Major Trophy Winners - 1 Major Trophy Winner"
While we are at it.......lets throw in playoff wins
Riley....0 Herman....0
Bowl wins
Riley 0 Herman 2
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Ok I read the link and it's really simple at least for me. Unless you're one of the idiots at 24/7 there is still more P5 level talent in TX then anywhere else. Tom Herman is an outstanding coach and recruiter as is LR. He can't offer all the great players he'll make his choices on who he wants knowing that he'll HAVE to pass on great players. And some of them won't be interested in TX which.is no big deal at least not to me. Recruiting is now nationwide and TX kids are now going.to SEC and little ten schools which is a big change in TX recruiting. As far as Dallas, TX goes. The top 4 cities that produce more top talent than anywhere else. LA, Miami, Dallas, and Houston. Kids from those areas go to schools all over the country. And Tom Herman is taking advantage of that. And the sooners mocking TX over the last ten years. Those days are over. That SB win over GA was no fluke. And the talent is getting better. And we have a coaching staff that can take their game to the next level. But OK's new dc has not proved himself at least not now. See you on 10/12/19.
I just have to sit back and giggle when these Ou trolls show up talking about all those "championships" CONFERENCE Championships......They pound their chests about this until someone points out...."with being that dominant in the Bigxii.....you would think Ou would have more than ONE National Championship to show for their dominance" If that isnt "underwhelming" on its own accord i dont know what is.
I giggle myself when the big 12 count is 12-3 in trophy count. I think it’s incredible that Texas only has three. You kind of need to win the big 12 to play in championships.
I expect you are right about this point. I am sure if I were in your shoes I would err on the side of banning more rival posters. Just to make my job easier.
Curious, though, is it normal around here to accuse a rival program of cheating over the loss of a 3 star recruit, 8 months before signing day?
I mean, geez, it wasn't even a flip!
Regardless, I do see your point in general. Peace.
No one would accuse our friend FlourBluffHorn of being normal
Woops, my mistake, those last two really evens it up doesn't it?
Lincoln surely sucks in playoff wins (dang it). I guess it is just difficult to have playoff wins unless you're in actually in the playoffs.
Bowl wins, congrats, you own the Sooners the last 2-years. Stellar, no really, stellar.
And the year Lincoln Riley became the coach of blOwU he inherited a heisman trophy winning QB. Tom Herman inherited a true freshmen. Lincoln Riley inherited a team that just won the conference. Tom Herman inherited a team that just lost to Kansas. Your comparison is not valid. Tom Herman has brought Texas back further and faster than Riley had to. Lets see what happens in years 3 and 4 when we have a upper-classman QB and a team that has actually won a bowl game.
blOwU you sure looked dominate back when it was John Blake running things. Riley is a great offensive mind, but he is also a horrible defensive coach and 100% relies on a defensive coordinator to run things. He doesn't have it so his defenses look like crap. Sound familiar? I think I just described the pirate.
blOwU does get good defensive players and turns them into crap, at least that is the way it's been since 2010. Tell me when was the last time your defense was truly good? Like I said, Tech in the 2000's. Right now Texas is closer to being Alabama then they are being Tech. Our defensive backfield can damn near boast a 5'star at every position. Texas as a team is built for beating teams both in the Big 12 and every other conference out there. You guys are good at out scoring Big 12 teams but get exposed regularly in the post season. Why, because you don't know how to play defense. Sound familiar? (Tech).
You are kidding yourself if you think you have the dogs to play defense with the top programs in the country. Sure you can put up 30 on a top level defense like Bama, or Texas. But you give up 40+ to a above average offense. Sound familiar Tech.
Go back and sit in your corner aggsy boy, the adults are talking.
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