Recruiting Thread 2017
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Game speed is special, he was Clocked at 4.52 at JUCO. I'm not the least bit worried about his 40 time.
This was following his 2015 season
Johnson recorded 133 tackles (71 solo), 8.5 sacks, four interceptions (two Pick 6s) and four forced fumbles last season. He possesses great speed. Johnson won the Class 5A 100-meter dash in 10.79 seconds at the AHSAA state track championships last spring. He ran a low-end, 4.3-second 40-yard dash earlier this week, according to Dodge City linebackers coach Michael Starkey.
Johnson recorded 133 tackles (71 solo), 8.5 sacks, four interceptions (two Pick 6s) and four forced fumbles last season. He possesses great speed. Johnson won the Class 5A 100-meter dash in 10.79 seconds at the AHSAA state track championships last spring. He ran a low-end, 4.3-second 40-yard dash earlier this week, according to Dodge City linebackers coach Michael Starkey.
Good pickup for the Horns and he can really say " Im getting the HELL out of Dodge",Welcome to Austin!!
Hand time correction add .24 for reaction time and round up to the nearest 10th. Hand times aren't accurate to the hundredth of a second. Low 4.3 hand time would be equivalent to a 4.6 FAT. I used to work a facility that had one of the few FAT setups for the 40. Had plenty of "4.4" kids come in and run 4.7-4.8 indoors on a mondo track.
there seems to be some worry that surprise visitor Vincent has only come to stay in Chaissons ear about LSU, but then I saw on Hornsports that Vincent brought his Mom along. That sounds like he is a serious visitor looking at Texas. If you were just looking to have a good time on a free trip would you bring your Mom along?
Amazing, never seen a lb with these times.. regardless, his natural instincts are solid.
He is almost exactly the same size as Mike Singletery. I know guys are bigger these days, but does anyone doubt that Singletary would not be great today?
I have no idea what that setup is you're talking about but back when I played fb, the FAT kids did run a bit slower.
I figured it was something like the door scanners at walmart. Just stick a security device on the kid and have a scanner at the start & 40yd mark. Haha! I played ironman fb at a small 2a school so we could barely afford a stopwatch.
Gary Johnson: I was told that JUCO LB commit Gary Johnson will arrive at Texas this summer as a true JR. So that means he will have 3 years to play 2 seasons at Texas. The staff expects him to make an early impact.
K’Lavon Chaisson: Texas hosted what could be their crown jewel in the 2017 class in 5-star OLB/DE K’Lavon Chaisson. I felt Texas had the edge going into the weekend and I still feel that way today. Multiple family members joined Chaisson on the visit, but none were more important than his mother who I was told is a major factor in his decision.
One little thing I found interesting was that 13-year NFL vet and former Texas DL who went to the same high school as Chaisson in Cory Redding was in Austin over the weekend and was around the facilities. I’m sure that wasn’t just a coincidence on the part of Redding and Tom Herman.
This is still a Texas-LSU battle.
Javelin Guidry: Even though it looks like a public announcement won’t come until February 1st, I still feel very good about Texas chances here. Guidry told me, “The visit was great and I really learned a lot. Talking with Coach Herman and Coach Washington about how I’d fit in and just about the program in general stood out to me.” Guidry also told me they’ll start him out learning both the outside CB spot and nickel. He’s known for his elite speed (10.43 100m), and it looks like the staff wants to take advantage of that as he also said they want to use him on offense some on the edge to create big plays.
I spoke with Guidry’s father and... the decision is clearly coming down to Utah and Texas. However, I think this race is much tighter than most would have expected and I won’t be surprised to see Guidry go with Utah. Guidry’s father mentioned, “Had coach Herman and the Texas staff reached out to Jav as soon as they arrived at Texas I think it would have been a done deal but not hearing from them allowed more time for him to continue to build a stronger and stronger relationship with the Utah staff and see how he can fit in there.”
Both programs clearly need Javelin. Guidry’s father says that Utah lost a lot of defensive backs to graduation and the staff at Texas is very unsure about the current crop of true cover guys on the Texas roster (I agree btw), “They said, ‘we don’t have that true cover guy like a William Jackson that can follow a guy around all game.'”
So, the Guidry’s like the opportunity to get on the field early at Texas. They also like the new energy at Texas, “They’ve got former players like Aaron Ross who will be around and Michael Huff to be around the players. It’s a new energy, it’s going big. Whatever they (the new Texas staff) have asked for they’ve been given. He’s being given what he needs to create long term success.”
In my estimation should Texas pick up Guidry it would be an excellent get. Guidry is an instant upgrade in speed at the cornerback position (something Texas needs) but he’s also the son of a former D1 cornerback so he's well versed in the game. Because of his athleticism and football IQ the likelihood of Guidry picking up the details of Orlando’s complicated system and implementing them at game speed as a true freshman is higher than most.
Jordan Pouncey: If you’re on twitter it’s clear you noticed how much Winter Park (FL) WR Jordan Pouncey enjoyed his Texas official visit. Going into the weekend it was safe to say Texas was running #2 behind the hometown school in Miami. But I’ve been told the gap has been closed, as Pouncey grew up a huge Texas fan and the visit was “almost like a dream come true for him’ as one person I spoke to put it. Though the hometown pull is very real in this one and we’ll see how it goes moving forward.
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K’Lavon Chaisson: Texas hosted what could be their crown jewel in the 2017 class in 5-star OLB/DE K’Lavon Chaisson. I felt Texas had the edge going into the weekend and I still feel that way today. Multiple family members joined Chaisson on the visit, but none were more important than his mother who I was told is a major factor in his decision.
One little thing I found interesting was that 13-year NFL vet and former Texas DL who went to the same high school as Chaisson in Cory Redding was in Austin over the weekend and was around the facilities. I’m sure that wasn’t just a coincidence on the part of Redding and Tom Herman.
This is still a Texas-LSU battle.
Javelin Guidry: Even though it looks like a public announcement won’t come until February 1st, I still feel very good about Texas chances here. Guidry told me, “The visit was great and I really learned a lot. Talking with Coach Herman and Coach Washington about how I’d fit in and just about the program in general stood out to me.” Guidry also told me they’ll start him out learning both the outside CB spot and nickel. He’s known for his elite speed (10.43 100m), and it looks like the staff wants to take advantage of that as he also said they want to use him on offense some on the edge to create big plays.
I spoke with Guidry’s father and... the decision is clearly coming down to Utah and Texas. However, I think this race is much tighter than most would have expected and I won’t be surprised to see Guidry go with Utah. Guidry’s father mentioned, “Had coach Herman and the Texas staff reached out to Jav as soon as they arrived at Texas I think it would have been a done deal but not hearing from them allowed more time for him to continue to build a stronger and stronger relationship with the Utah staff and see how he can fit in there.”
Both programs clearly need Javelin. Guidry’s father says that Utah lost a lot of defensive backs to graduation and the staff at Texas is very unsure about the current crop of true cover guys on the Texas roster (I agree btw), “They said, ‘we don’t have that true cover guy like a William Jackson that can follow a guy around all game.'”
So, the Guidry’s like the opportunity to get on the field early at Texas. They also like the new energy at Texas, “They’ve got former players like Aaron Ross who will be around and Michael Huff to be around the players. It’s a new energy, it’s going big. Whatever they (the new Texas staff) have asked for they’ve been given. He’s being given what he needs to create long term success.”
In my estimation should Texas pick up Guidry it would be an excellent get. Guidry is an instant upgrade in speed at the cornerback position (something Texas needs) but he’s also the son of a former D1 cornerback so he's well versed in the game. Because of his athleticism and football IQ the likelihood of Guidry picking up the details of Orlando’s complicated system and implementing them at game speed as a true freshman is higher than most.
Jordan Pouncey: If you’re on twitter it’s clear you noticed how much Winter Park (FL) WR Jordan Pouncey enjoyed his Texas official visit. Going into the weekend it was safe to say Texas was running #2 behind the hometown school in Miami. But I’ve been told the gap has been closed, as Pouncey grew up a huge Texas fan and the visit was “almost like a dream come true for him’ as one person I spoke to put it. Though the hometown pull is very real in this one and we’ll see how it goes moving forward.
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Jordan Pouncey: the Florida wide receiver was vocal on Twitter all weekend about how much he wanted to visit Austin and how much he enjoyed his time in the Lone Star State:
Texas now looks like a contender with Miami for Pouncey’s services. However, the ‘Horns will have to overcome the lure of proximity, numerous visits to campus, and a longer relationship with the coaching staff.
K’Lavon Chaisson: The notoriously-quiet Galena Park North Shore product went back and deleted all of his tweets from the weekend — a rather unusual practice of his — but appeared to be enjoying his time in Austin based on the tweets he did send.
Chaisson also told Scout that his visit ranked 8.9 out of 10 and said that the coaching staff sold him on playing the same role as Tyus Bowser did at Houston as a stand-up edge rusher.
"They told me the positions and told me that I could be like the next Tyus Bowser," Chaisson [said]. "I think Tyus is actually a good player."
Javelin Guidry: "I had a great time out there," Guidry said. "I've only been there one other time, I camped at UT my sophomore year so this was my first chance really touring the campus and seeing the school up close.
"I got to see the facilities and spent a lot of time with the players and coaches. I have a great comfort level with the coaches. I think the thing that stood out most about the visit was how energetic the staff was the whole visit, it was great to reconnect with them."
According to Guidry, he also connected with the players on a visit that ultimately was “better than I expected it to be.”
Kary Vincent: Despite consistent public proclamations of being completely solid to LSU, Kary Vincent’s surprise visit to Texas over the weekend, reportedly with his mother, was a sign that he was at least willing to listen to Herman’s recruiting pitch.
The results of that pitch aren’t yet apparent, but the ‘Horns may have an outside chance of flipping the Port Arthur Memorial product from his longtime pledge to the Tigers.
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Texas now looks like a contender with Miami for Pouncey’s services. However, the ‘Horns will have to overcome the lure of proximity, numerous visits to campus, and a longer relationship with the coaching staff.
K’Lavon Chaisson: The notoriously-quiet Galena Park North Shore product went back and deleted all of his tweets from the weekend — a rather unusual practice of his — but appeared to be enjoying his time in Austin based on the tweets he did send.
Chaisson also told Scout that his visit ranked 8.9 out of 10 and said that the coaching staff sold him on playing the same role as Tyus Bowser did at Houston as a stand-up edge rusher.
"They told me the positions and told me that I could be like the next Tyus Bowser," Chaisson [said]. "I think Tyus is actually a good player."
Javelin Guidry: "I had a great time out there," Guidry said. "I've only been there one other time, I camped at UT my sophomore year so this was my first chance really touring the campus and seeing the school up close.
"I got to see the facilities and spent a lot of time with the players and coaches. I have a great comfort level with the coaches. I think the thing that stood out most about the visit was how energetic the staff was the whole visit, it was great to reconnect with them."
According to Guidry, he also connected with the players on a visit that ultimately was “better than I expected it to be.”
Kary Vincent: Despite consistent public proclamations of being completely solid to LSU, Kary Vincent’s surprise visit to Texas over the weekend, reportedly with his mother, was a sign that he was at least willing to listen to Herman’s recruiting pitch.
The results of that pitch aren’t yet apparent, but the ‘Horns may have an outside chance of flipping the Port Arthur Memorial product from his longtime pledge to the Tigers.
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Tom Herman knows he can’t give into temptation.
When Herman was hired at Texas, there was an expectation from Longhorn fans that he would go out and recruit every single blue-chip player in the Lone Star State. Nobody would have given the all-in approach a second thought, because that’s what most new coaches do when they land at a blueblood program like Texas or get a job that’s in the nation’s biggest pipeline for high school football talent.
But Herman has seen firsthand what happens when you go chasing stars, and that’s why the Longhorns have taken a slower and steadier approach in his first recruiting class.
“I went back and actually looked at the Class of 2012 when we transitioned to Ohio State and of the 19 kids that were February signees, and only roughly about three of them were actual contributing players,” said Herman, who helped guide the Buckeyes to the 2014 national championship as the program’s offensive coordinator and quarterback’s coach. “That was the fifth-ranked class in the country. That's not very good odds and percentages. We're taking a more calculated, patient approach because of what history tells you.”
That approach has irked some Texas fans, especially since the Longhorns have signed top-10 classes in nine of the last 11 recruiting cycles. Texas currently owns the No. 35 class in the country, and Big 12 rival Oklahoma is reeling in one of Bob Stoops’ best classes ever and is a lock to finish in the top 10. But Herman believes you have to look beyond what a player is ranked, especially in your first recruiting cycle at a program.
“We've done extensive research on transition years and signing classes in transition years,” said Herman, who was hired in late November. “By far the most instances of attrition, the most instances of off-the-field issues -- whether it be drugs, social or academic issues -- and the most instances of guys that quite frankly can't play, happen in the transition year.
“I think that happens for a number of reasons. The biggest being you wind up chasing stars and rankings, rather than getting to know these kids. A lot of it is because of timing. It's so hard to get to know them, so I think you've got to target kids that at least you know a little bit about.”
To limit misses in his first class, Herman said he’s turning to prospects he was familiar with when he was the head coach at Houston. Many of the eight recruits that have committed since Herman took over were players the Cougars were recruiting or wanted to recruit but couldn’t because Houston was a Group of 5 program.
Seventh-ranked running back Toneil Carter of Houston Langham Creek is a perfect example of that. Carter said he visited Houston a number of times, but never gave the Cougars serious attention because they weren’t in a Power 5 conference. Once Herman arrived in Austin, his staff reached out to Carter, who was then committed to Georgia, and he eventually flipped his commitment and is now at UT ready for the spring semester of classes.
“We’ve certainly targeted kids that were on our radar a little bit at the University of Houston that we knew,” Herman said. “Of course, we're going to swing for the fences, but we're going to be very, very selective on the kids that we go after and recruit if we didn't have a relationship before the month of January.
“It's too hard to get to know a kid in three weeks, especially when our jobs will be judged on what happens with the players we bring to the University of Texas. We’re going to get our fair share of impact recruits, I promise you that. But we know we can’t give into the impulse to just sign everybody that has four or five stars next to their name. It’s not the right thing to do in our first recruiting class.”
When Herman was hired at Texas, there was an expectation from Longhorn fans that he would go out and recruit every single blue-chip player in the Lone Star State. Nobody would have given the all-in approach a second thought, because that’s what most new coaches do when they land at a blueblood program like Texas or get a job that’s in the nation’s biggest pipeline for high school football talent.
But Herman has seen firsthand what happens when you go chasing stars, and that’s why the Longhorns have taken a slower and steadier approach in his first recruiting class.
“I went back and actually looked at the Class of 2012 when we transitioned to Ohio State and of the 19 kids that were February signees, and only roughly about three of them were actual contributing players,” said Herman, who helped guide the Buckeyes to the 2014 national championship as the program’s offensive coordinator and quarterback’s coach. “That was the fifth-ranked class in the country. That's not very good odds and percentages. We're taking a more calculated, patient approach because of what history tells you.”
That approach has irked some Texas fans, especially since the Longhorns have signed top-10 classes in nine of the last 11 recruiting cycles. Texas currently owns the No. 35 class in the country, and Big 12 rival Oklahoma is reeling in one of Bob Stoops’ best classes ever and is a lock to finish in the top 10. But Herman believes you have to look beyond what a player is ranked, especially in your first recruiting cycle at a program.
“We've done extensive research on transition years and signing classes in transition years,” said Herman, who was hired in late November. “By far the most instances of attrition, the most instances of off-the-field issues -- whether it be drugs, social or academic issues -- and the most instances of guys that quite frankly can't play, happen in the transition year.
“I think that happens for a number of reasons. The biggest being you wind up chasing stars and rankings, rather than getting to know these kids. A lot of it is because of timing. It's so hard to get to know them, so I think you've got to target kids that at least you know a little bit about.”
To limit misses in his first class, Herman said he’s turning to prospects he was familiar with when he was the head coach at Houston. Many of the eight recruits that have committed since Herman took over were players the Cougars were recruiting or wanted to recruit but couldn’t because Houston was a Group of 5 program.
Seventh-ranked running back Toneil Carter of Houston Langham Creek is a perfect example of that. Carter said he visited Houston a number of times, but never gave the Cougars serious attention because they weren’t in a Power 5 conference. Once Herman arrived in Austin, his staff reached out to Carter, who was then committed to Georgia, and he eventually flipped his commitment and is now at UT ready for the spring semester of classes.
“We’ve certainly targeted kids that were on our radar a little bit at the University of Houston that we knew,” Herman said. “Of course, we're going to swing for the fences, but we're going to be very, very selective on the kids that we go after and recruit if we didn't have a relationship before the month of January.
“It's too hard to get to know a kid in three weeks, especially when our jobs will be judged on what happens with the players we bring to the University of Texas. We’re going to get our fair share of impact recruits, I promise you that. But we know we can’t give into the impulse to just sign everybody that has four or five stars next to their name. It’s not the right thing to do in our first recruiting class.”
TFB says.... DE/OLB K’Lavon Chaisson arrived back in Houston yesterday after his official visit to Colorado. I’ll say it again, the Buffaloes aren’t a factor in this one. He’ll be in town until Friday before he leaves for his Florida official visit, and the Gators aren’t a factor in this one either IMO. I was told that Texas HC Tom Herman and his staff will make their in-home visit with Chaisson tonight, and that LSU HC Ed Orgeron and his staff will have their in-home visit on Friday before Chaisson leaves for his UF visit.
This will be the last face to face contact those staffs have with Chaisson until NSD, and I still feel that Texas has the edge as of today.
This will be the last face to face contact those staffs have with Chaisson until NSD, and I still feel that Texas has the edge as of today.
Probably could have left the "not sorry" part out, but hey, kids these days.
That's good news because LSU is winning Chassion over down the stretch. So much for the education talking points if that's who he chooses.
When a recruit says education matters the fans hear they want to go to a school that is highly respected on that front, but 9 out of 10 times what they mean they want to go to a school that has a great support system to get them a degree. They aren't pulling out academic rankings to see where LSU falls because to them a college degree is a college degree. And for a lot of them that's true because a lot are getting some generic life skill degree that is borderline useless.
I'm pretty sure the kid was talking up petroleum engineering. No.1 versus No. 11 in the rankings seem close enough to begin with. That being said, the La State degree will hold up just fine.
Personally, I think that most recruiting projections fail to consider the most important factor in a recruits decision in picking a school, girls.
