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Report: Charlie Strong out as Texas' coach after the season

It is pretty clear you aren't racist and I had thought you articulated well what you meant about "right fit" last year or whenever that was. But, I just wanted to add a little more context for what it is worth. I have never been a race issue guy, though it may have come across that way. My perspective goes waaayy back to when Craig James was discussing the troubled coaching era "Mr Porsche" John Mackovic. He coined the phrase "He just ain't Bubba". That particular catch phrase resonated with the public and caught on to everybody talking about the Texas football program. Simply, I interpreted that phrase into white man from the south, wrong or right. When you said "right fit", I made a wrong assumption to my preconceived notion. BTW, I have never called anybody here racist, it was simply a discussion to argue that particular point. My words were so close to doing it that I'll just say "fair enough" if I am accused of using the race card on that particular discussion.
I would never accuse you of that being 100% of the reason. Ever. Maybe .01%, but never 100%. But that what a hot button something like this "CAN" become if we all don't keep our heads.

Did I WANT charlie to succeed-- hell yes because I wanted texas to succeed. Did I think he would? Nope.
 
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Ok Clob, I'm your Huckleberry,

Excluding the guys you mentioned I have 3 names

1. Chip Kelly - he looks like he might be finished with the NFL and he would be a killer at Texas.
2. Sean Payton - He might be done at New Orleans and if so he could probably name his team in the NFL but I could see him coming to Texas for the right price.
3. Mark Dantonio - hell of a coach at MSU, want could he do at Texas?

Those are my guesses.
 
Ok Clob, I'm your Huckleberry,

Excluding the guys you mentioned I have 3 names

1. Chip Kelly - he looks like he might be finished with the NFL and he would be a killer at Texas.
2. Sean Payton - He might be done at New Orleans and if so he could probably name his team in the NFL but I could see him coming to Texas for the right price.
3. Mark Dantonio - hell of a coach at MSU, want could he do at Texas?

Those are my guesses.
If I'm Payton I take the LSU job. They want offense and he's already a state legend. He could demand $6.5 and they'd pay it- in a heartbeat. Also that saints team is done. No D. Breeze is on his last leg.
Chip kelly has a chip on his shoulder. He's pissed he made the playoffs in Philly and they fired him anyway. He wants to prove he can coach at that level. He's not leaving after one year in SF. If he does leave it will be for familiar territory--- oregon.
Mark is also a fit for lsu. He's not "miss congeniality" as a coach and Texas needs that. I don't see him leaving Mich st juuuuust yet. Plus he's a decent fit for auburn.

Good try Wasatch but not quite there yet. ;)
 
If we are wishing...put me down for Belichick and John Harbaugh. No way in hell Belichick would even consider it, but what about Harbaugh? Maybe he's watching how much fun his brother is having and wants in on it. Unlikely though.
 
I highly doubt there are any true-blue blow your mind guys out there that are simple bait and catch, we win.

NFL guys outside somebody like Carroll, no thanks. CFB is a different animal than the NFL.
 
I highly doubt there are any true-blue blow your mind guys out there that are simple bait and catch, we win.

NFL guys outside somebody like Carroll, no thanks. CFB is a different animal than the NFL.
I agree 100%. The people who are high on Dantonio and Shaw are not thinking it through imo. The offenses they run are good when they are ahead but awful when coming from behind. The coach needs to go with a modern offense to succeed in college.
 
I agree 100%. The people who are high on Dantonio and Shaw are not thinking it through imo. The offenses they run are good when they are ahead but awful when coming from behind. The coach needs to go with a modern offense to succeed in college.
...and know somebody they trust with their job to coach defense well enough to make stops, enough stops to win the damn game.
 
I agree 100%. The people who are high on Dantonio and Shaw are not thinking it through imo. The offenses they run are good when they are ahead but awful when coming from behind. The coach needs to go with a modern offense to succeed in college.

And they are also crazy if they think our dumpster fire of an administration is going to say "We're Texas" and poach a name brand coach from and established P5 program. If we get a P5 coach it will be the Larry Fedora level not Shaw or Dantonio.

Look to the west at USC if you don't believe me. It doesn't matter how high ESPN ranks your school on the top job pantheon, or how much more tradition you have. Established coaches at major programs don't make moves to dumpster fires.
 
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I highly doubt there are any true-blue blow your mind guys out there that are simple bait and catch, we win.

NFL guys outside somebody like Carroll, no thanks. CFB is a different animal than the NFL.

Guess you haven't been paying attention to clobs posts. He hasn't said who YET....but as of right now it's to be continued ...
 
Guess you haven't been paying attention to clobs posts. He hasn't said who YET....but as of right now it's to be continued ...
Would I be crazy to think that Pete Carroll, if he wanted to do it, would be a great fit. He could do the hand shaking and baby kissing that Mack was so good at, but can also develop talent! I think he would be a pretty good hire, if it comes to that. As long as the baggage that followed him when he left SC wouldn't follow him here.
 
Would I be crazy to think that Pete Carroll, if he wanted to do it, would be a great fit. He could do the hand shaking and baby kissing that Mack was so good at, but can also develop talent! I think he would be a pretty good hire, if it comes to that. As long as the baggage that followed him when he left SC wouldn't follow him here.
Baggage would be in tow.
 
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Would I be crazy to think that Pete Carroll, if he wanted to do it, would be a great fit. He could do the hand shaking and baby kissing that Mack was so good at, but can also develop talent! I think he would be a pretty good hire, if it comes to that. As long as the baggage that followed him when he left SC wouldn't follow him here.
I'd take him, he's not leaving the NFL. Bag's of damage be dammed.
 
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Would I be crazy to think that Pete Carroll, if he wanted to do it, would be a great fit. He could do the hand shaking and baby kissing that Mack was so good at, but can also develop talent! I think he would be a pretty good hire, if it comes to that. As long as the baggage that followed him when he left SC wouldn't follow him here.

You do sound a little crazy. But i see your point. Some of his playing calling has also cost him dearly
 
Honestly, I don't think Carroll would be an effective coach in the Big 12. He ran a pro style offense at USC. that is great out west where there are probably a few high schools in California that run that offense. However, in Texas it seems most of the great QBs are coming from systems that run the Spread. I think he would struggle to find the right players to fit his system here in Texas.

I do think that Chip Kelly would win national championships if he came to Texas, also I think he style of coaching isn't going to fly in the NFL and eventually his players are going to tire of him and he is going to find himself jumping from job to job because it's easier to fire the coach than to fire a team.

He is a fit for Texas and would be mega successful here.

I don't know about Sean Payton, he is a great coach but like Clob said, his days in New Orleans are numbered but LSU would get a A+ if they grabbed him.

John Harbaugh - He was high on my list last time around and he would be an instant success at Texas. Not sure if he is interested in going back down to college but he would be a home run.

Chuck Pagano has a lot of years coaching on the college level, but I doubt he leaves the NFL unless he is fired.

Lovie Smith is an interesting candidate but I'm a bit snake bitten when it comes to taking coaches from Illinois.


Kyle Shanahan - Would he come back to Texas? He saw how Simms was treated and I think he still holds some ill-will towards the school for it. But he is a solid coach.
 
Personally I prefer a spread attack because the rules and big 12 generally refs favor offense, but the spread is everywhere in high school. It's not unique to Texas high schools and it hasn't been for a while. The idea that Texas has to run a spread because that's what the kids are used to is dumb. It is possible to take an elite high school athlete and teach him something different because that's how it's always worked. They grow physically and mentally from high school to college and then from college to the NFL.

Just because Mack and GD failed at it in 2010, and Strong and Watson failed doesn't mean it's not possible for good coaches.
 
An NFL OC like Shannhan would be an interesting choice. I do think he's a good coach with a pretty bright future. I like John Harbaugh and I think he might be intrigued by college.
 
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