So how far down the list do the Aggies have to go to get a coach ?

[Scholz]

You guys are nervous...The SEC money has allowed us to really pour $$ into our program and hire a top flight coach....but the positive press for A&M on hiring Fisher is pretty much everywhere.

Disagree on all 3 of these counts. Not nervous in the least. Fisher is a mediocre/good coach without superman at QB. He got run out of his conference by Clemson. Also, I see sports writers clowning aggy for handing out such a cocksure, ridiculous guaranteed contract.

We'll see about Herman. Won't guarantee it but I think he'll do well after a couple of years.

 

[BobWeltlich]

Disagree on all 3 of these counts. Not nervous in the least. Fisher is a mediocre/good coach without superman at QB. He got run out of his conference by Clemson. Also, I see sports writers clowning aggy for handing out such a cocksure, ridiculous guaranteed contract.

We'll see about Herman. Won't guarantee it but I think he'll do well after a couple of years.

You are right in that we will see on all these things. Hermann took you guys to 6-6 from what could have been 9-3 with his coaching IMO. Cost you guys good opportunities to beat Maryland, Tech, and OSU. He looked like deer in the headlights in two of the press conferences. If Jefferson goes pro, there will be major holes on defense... If Meekins goes to UH, does Coburn flip?...Ingram is listening to what the Aggies have to say...Do you have any links other than Pete Thamel (I think that is his spelling) who have not given A&M kudos on Fisher...

 

[DHHorn]

Fisher did a bang up job of coaching this year didn't he. Fisher and his guys are mercenaries and nothing more. Quit bragging about paying more than anyone else was willing to pay. Other schools can pay that kind of money but they won't because they aren't that desperate. Clemson and Miami were stealing his thunder and FSU was getting tired of him. You hired a coach who was trending down and he saw an opportunity to get out before it got worse. If he wins some championships I guess it's worth it but anything less is a failure for that kind of money.

 

[TexExSpur]

You are right in that we will see on all these things. Hermann took you guys to 6-6 from what could have been 9-3 with his coaching IMO. Cost you guys good opportunities to beat Maryland, Tech, and OSU. He looked like deer in the headlights in two of the press conferences. If Jefferson goes pro, there will be major holes on defense... If Meekins goes to UH, does Coburn flip?...Ingram is listening to what the Aggies have to say...Do you have any links other than Pete Thamel (I think that is his spelling) who have not given A&M kudos on Fisher...

Gary Johnson has Malik covered. This staff is not likely to make any major changes. As for Meekins, Orlando is the answer, even big Ed Oliver is telling Koburn to stick with Texas... If he waits to sign, Ags have a chance to flip. Although, I doubt he does in the end. Maybe the Ags end up with a big time DC to sway his opinion of the program.

The Fisher hire is an all in for glory hire. The dude won in a lesser conference and was losing ground to Dabo. It was an easy out for a new start and he just happened to get 75 million to do it. No brainer for him! Good luck.

He would have left FSU last year if LSU ponied up 75 million.

 

[diadevic]

You are right in that we will see on all these things. Hermann took you guys to 6-6 from what could have been 9-3 with his coaching IMO. Cost you guys good opportunities to beat Maryland, Tech, and OSU. He looked like deer in the headlights in two of the press conferences. If Jefferson goes pro, there will be major holes on defense... If Meekins goes to UH, does Coburn flip?...Ingram is listening to what the Aggies have to say...Do you have any links other than Pete Thamel (I think that is his spelling) who have not given A&M kudos on Fisher...

Serious question - how/why did you come up with Bob Weltlich handle? The worst coach in UT athletic history!

 

[Scholz]

If Jefferson goes pro, there will be major holes on defense...

Yes, I've conversed with enough aggys over the years to know that your standby, groupthink position concerning any player we ever lose is that he's totally irreplaceable (even though you guys were calling Malik overrated and a bust as late as this season). Gary Johnson will blow up next year. We'll be just fine at LB. Can't say the same for you guys. You recruit that position anymore?

If Meekins goes to UH, does Coburn flip?...

No.

Ingram is listening to what the Aggies have to say...

Lulz.

Do you have any links other than Pete Thamel (I think that is his spelling) who have not given A&M kudos on Fisher...

Mostly talking heads I've seen taking subtle shots at aggy being a middle of the road program.

 

[thedawg27]

You are right in that we will see on all these things. Hermann took you guys to 6-6 from what could have been 9-3 with his coaching IMO. Cost you guys good opportunities to beat Maryland, Tech, and OSU. He looked like deer in the headlights in two of the press conferences. If Jefferson goes pro, there will be major holes on defense... If Meekins goes to UH, does Coburn flip?...Ingram is listening to what the Aggies have to say...Do you have any links other than Pete Thamel (I think that is his spelling) who have not given A&M kudos on Fisher...

Look at the recruiting class buddy. There are guys that are ready to play from day 1. Also LB will be fine without Malik. Gary Johnson is a solid player. Gets ur facts right

 

[mm42]

Look at the recruiting class buddy. There are guys that are ready to play from day 1. Also LB will be fine without Malik. Gary Johnson is a solid player. Gets ur facts right

You guys certainly are puting together a good lucking class. Skill position guys are top shelf for sure. Love, love, love your DB class. WR looks elite. OT class has depth and is very solid as well. Coburn is a big get at DT. Herman is doing something right.

What position is Overshown (sp?) projected to play?

 

[q1w2e3]

Scholz, face it. You guys are nervous. The SEC money has allowed us to really pour $$ into our program and hire a top flight coach. Hermann may turn out great, but early returns make every Longhorn I know nervous. He appears to be in over his head. We will see what happens, but the positive press for A&M on hiring Fisher is pretty much everywhere.

The SEC money has allowed us to really pour $$ into our program and hire a top flight coach

LOL. No, nothing to do with the "SEC money". Ya'll were free at any time in your history to ridiculously over-pay for a coach. There are dozens of schools that have all avoided that desperation, why not A&M?

"Top flight coach"? Is a coach with a losing record this season top flight? Especially one with the talent of FSU?...more talent than A&M will ever have?

 

[oldhorn2]

dont feed the rat.

 

[TexExSpur]

What position is Overshown (sp?) projected to play?

He is going to be one of Herman' favorite new toys!

 

[mm42]

He is going to be one of Herman' favorite new toys!

I assumed S or OLB but wasn't sure. Supposed to be a pretty darn good raw athlete.

 

[TexExSpur]

I assumed S or OLB but wasn't sure. Supposed to be a pretty darn good raw athlete.

Hybrid

 

[outhereincali]

You are right in that we will see on all these things. Hermann took you guys to 6-6 from what could have been 9-3 with his coaching IMO. Cost you guys good opportunities to beat Maryland, Tech, and OSU. He looked like deer in the headlights in two of the press conferences. If Jefferson goes pro, there will be major holes on defense... If Meekins goes to UH, does Coburn flip?...Ingram is listening to what the Aggies have to say...Do you have any links other than Pete Thamel (I think that is his spelling) who have not given A&M kudos on Fisher...

If I'm understanding you correctly you appear to be an aggie with a board name after a failed UT basketball coach.

 

[JoeAg]

Sholtz, you are correct. for the last 8 years all of your players have been replaceable.

 

[oldhorn2]

Sholtz, you are correct. for the last 8 years all of your players have been replaceable.

You got us there Joeag....we had losing seasons with em....we can't do worse without em

 

[outhereincali]

Most of my Longorn brethren will disagree with me on this but Jimbo may turn out to be a good hire.

As far as one on one against other SEC coaches go. With the exception6of Saban he's just as good and probably better than the other SEC coaches. In the biggest game of his life He beat Gus Malzahn's Auburn team. I'm going to wait and see about Kirby Smart but everyone else I give him the edge. The thing that started the FSU decline was Dabo and as of now he's the best coach in the country.

People are saying he only one the nc because of Jameis Winston. C'mon guys you can say the same thing about Cam Newton, DeShaun Watson, and others.

He's obviously a good recruiter you can't tell me that he didn't have anything to do with all the great players he had. Don't let their w/l record fool you, Willie Taggert has inherited a lot off good players. And I'm sure he still has enough connections with the hs coaches in Fla to bring some good players to a&m.

But hey I've been wrong about coaching hires before and I can't stress enough that whatever the aggies do really won't have any affect on us, they're in another conference, and we'll never play them again. At least not in fb.

My .02 worth

 

[q1w2e3]

Most of my Longorn brethren will disagree with me on this but Jimbo may turn out to be a good hire.

As far as one on one against other SEC coaches go. With the exception6of Saban he's just as good and probably better than the other SEC coaches. In the biggest game of his life He beat Gus Malzahn's Auburn team. I'm going to wait and see about Kirby Smart but everyone else I give him the edge. The thing that started the FSU decline was Dabo and as of now he's the best coach in the country.

People are saying he only one the nc because of Jameis Winston. C'mon guys you can say the same thing about Cam Newton, DeShaun Watson, and others.

He's obviously a good recruiter you can't tell me that he didn't have anything to do with all the great players he had. Don't let their w/l record fool you, Willie Taggert has inherited a lot off good players. And I'm sure he still has enough connections with the hs coaches in Fla to bring some good players to a&m.

But hey I've been wrong about coaching hires before and I can't stress enough that whatever the aggies do really won't have any affect on us, they're in another conference, and we'll never play them again. At least not in fb.

My .02 worth

"good hire"? They couldn't have lucked into anything better...Chad Morris vs. Jimbob Fisher? Will it be successful?....for guaranteed 10 years/$75milion? That's the question, and the odds are stacked far against them. If you whore yourself out and don't cash in you come out worse than you started.

Better than any coach other than Saban in the SEC? Nobody knows that. He walked into a dream scenario into an ACC that was very weak at the time. By his exit he was at best the third best coach in the ACC behind Dabo and Richt. His national championship was against an Auburn team that never should have been 1000 miles from the game. That was the year they had two of the most most lucky plays in the history of football in back to back weeks just to get to the SEC champ game vs a shit_y Mizzou squad. That and having a once a generation talent in Jamies that Jimbo will never approach at A&M. We are talking about a guy who has since run FSU and all the talent into a losing record. They actually lost to Boston F'n College by 32 points...how does that happen?

As far as recruiting, he's walking into a new world. Instead of being the much anticipated successor to Bobby Bowden into a terrible ACC at the time with no competition, he's walking into a program that is at best the 4th best program in their division of their conference. On top of that he's at a program that is at best second fiddle in their own state....and that is a distant second place, if that. Any coach at A&M will always struggle to be able to consistently get top level talent. He was at FSU during the lowest of the low years for both Florida and Miami. If he does not knock it out of the park immediately with the new coach boost or win big quick he will be toast.

And, you are right. It doesn't matter if he is successful there or not, it won't matter to Texas.

 

[outhereincali]

"good hire"? They couldn't have lucked into anything better...Chad Morris vs. Jimbob Fisher? Will it be successful?....for guaranteed 10 years/$75milion? That's the question, and the odds are stacked far against them. If you whore yourself out and don't cash in you come out worse than you started.

Better than any coach other than Saban in the SEC? Nobody knows that. He walked into a dream scenario into an ACC that was very weak at the time. By his exit he was at best the third best coach in the ACC behind Dabo and Richt. His national championship was against an Auburn team that never should have been 1000 miles from the game. That was the year they had two of the most most lucky plays in the history of football in back to back weeks just to get to the SEC champ game vs a shit_y Mizzou squad. That and having a once a generation talent in Jamies that Jimbo will never approach at A&M. We are talking about a guy who has since run FSU and all the talent into a losing record. They actually lost to Boston F'n College by 32 points...how does that happen?

As far as recruiting, he's walking into a new world. Instead of being the much anticipated successor to Bobby Bowden into a terrible ACC at the time with no competition, he's walking into a program that is at best the 4th best program in their division of their conference. On top of that he's at a program that is at best second fiddle in their own state....and that is a distant second place, if that. Any coach at A&M will always struggle to be able to consistently get top level talent. He was at FSU during the lowest of the low years for both Florida and Miami. If he does not knock it out of the park immediately with the new coach boost or win big quick he will be toast.

And, you are right. It doesn't matter if he is successful there or not, it won't matter to Texas.

You are right about that Auburn team. And I appreciate that someone besides me acknowledged that. But hey a win is a win.

I'm just not impressed with the other SEC coaches besides Saban and Smart. And I can think of at least two maybe three oc's in the Big XII better than Malzahn. And these are the only SEC coaches capable of taking their teams to a P5 bowl game.

When he first started at the cow college I underestimated Jackie Sherrill and I'm not going to do that with Fisher. So I'm going to take s wait and see attitude.

One last thing. As much fun as it is to make fun of the cow college they've always had three or four kids who could start for most college fb teams in the country.

 

[Mister Moses]

Jimbo was able to get a weekend visit from a top OU hard commit. Brey Walker was in College Station four or five days before he’s due to sign. I think he’s sticking with Oklahoma, but that was an eye opener to get him there.

 

[Scholz]

Sholtz, you are correct. for the last 8 years all of your players have been replaceable.

I laughed.

Of course the same could be said of yours for the past 78 years so there.

 

[oldhorn2]

People are saying he only one the nc because of Jameis Winston. C'mon guys you can say the same thing about Cam Newton, DeShaun Watson, and others.

Good point.....I guarantee we only won the NC because of Vince Young.

 

[TexExSpur]

Jimbo was able to get a weekend visit from a top OU hard commit. Brey Walker was in College Station four or five days before he’s due to sign. I think he’s sticking with Oklahoma, but that was an eye opener to get him there.

Free visits, it's a kid doing what he should, enjoying the process.

 

[bubba2023]

They are going to recruit very well initially. There are plenty off warts on his coaching ability to laugh at but he will be a PITA to recruit against for at least the next few years. Especially if we can't find a way out of square 1 in rebuild mode.

 

[TexSkills]

They are going to recruit very well initially. There are plenty off warts on his coaching ability to laugh at but he will be a PITA to recruit against for at least the next few years.

Jimbo is an excellent recruiter and surrounds himself with excellent recruiters.

He has a great mind for offense but that doesn't always translate well onto the field. Every series I saw this year was predictable and repetitive. His shiny new OC hire is another glorified clipboard holder because he will still call all the plays

 

[JoeAg]

I laughed.

Of course the same could be said of yours for the past 78 years so there.

Just responding to your "group think" comment about players being irreplaceable. Go ahead, call me a bald-faced liar.

 

[Scholz]

Just responding to your "group think" comment about players being irreplaceable. Go ahead, call me a bald-faced liar.

Just responding to you as well. That's how message boards work. Sorry I made you cry.

How about this. Win something. Anything. Then talk, aggy.

 

[Scholz]

Good point.....I guarantee we only won the NC because of Vince Young.

And thank the gods for Vincent Paul Young Jr.

 

[RoboCocks21]

So is aggy going to put the high school championship won by college station on their wall as well?

 

[BobWeltlich]

So is aggy going to put the high school championship won by college station on their wall as well?

Good luck against Missouri tonight!

 

[LonghornMM]

So is aggy going to put the high school championship won by college station on their wall as well?

 

[Dave Grohl]

I disagree. A money whip would require 7 million. Coaches are still hired at 5 million and less all over this great nation.

But, Aggy did just hire a Mack Brown type resume up until 2011 for Saban money. Aggy just set the bar, yes, it was a money whip and an attempt to buy a title.

What was Texas attempting to buy when they made an unsuccessful run at Saban? And Fisher? And anyone else with championship credentials for that matter? Seems like it’s more of a “money whip” to throw $5.25M at an “up & comer” with no Power 5 experience at HC and no experience at HC even graduating an entire class? At least have to give it to Aggie that they pulled a big time coach in a year with a ton of vacancies... Texas has never pulled that big of a name.

 

[Older Fan]

Jimbo will fail at A&M for the same reason that most of their coaches do,they don't have the talent to beat, LSU, Bama, Auburn etc more than once every five or so years and He won't be able to draw the needed talent to A&M . With four patsy OOC every year he can win 8-9 games but never anything of consequence. Their inferiority complex is so huge they will continue to throw money at it forever.

 

[outhereincali]

I said this above but the cow college usually signs about 4 kids who can start for most teams. Imagine if he can sign more than that.

I've made enough opinions on his hire and his salary.

What is his plan?
How long does he expect it to take?
How many, if any, of his coaches are coming with him?
What kind of defense is he going to play?
Is he going to bring some FL kids to a&m?

I have all kinds of questions about the product he's going to put on the field and how he plans on doing it.

Time will tell.

 

[oldhorn2]

At least have to give it to Aggie that they pulled a big time coach in a year with a ton of vacancies... Texas has never pulled that big of a name.

well.....ya got us there......Texas hires coaches that win their National Titles at Texas. Yall hired a coach that already had won .....someplace else. Sorry you cant see the difference.