Urban Meyer

Never seen him wear so many face mask! He must have 10 on the sidelines or is he advertising for the companies that make them?
 
Wait---- wut? Let me go on record as saying that clob would never say that.

2nd--- I just tell you knuckleheads what I hear through people I trust and have known for 2+ decades.

3rd--- please, I beg of you, don't put my name and "that former coaches name" in a sentence together ever again.
I apologize Clob for that post. I just tried to make an ill attempt for an outlandish idea. You have better contacts than most of us. (But, I gotta ask...did that "concussion" really happen to him?!)
 
I get what you are saying, and if we are paying the buyout that would make sense, but if as others have claimed he is being fired because the president and AD told him to do something and he didn’t do it. That would fall under the “with cause” portion of his contract(I’m positive he has one) and therefore would be owed either no buyout or a far reduced one. If that’s the route they are going then they actually hurt their argument by waiting. As Herman would probably challenge it by saying “if I’m being fired with cause why did you wait 3 months” and he’d have a point.

Now I happen to believe if he’s fired it would be strictly for football reasons and in that case yes it would make sense to wait till December. I think the eyes of Texas thing has been blown way out of proportion, and has been botched by all sides, but I don’t think it has anything to do with Herman’s future
It is time to stop defending Tom.. Unfortunately he blew it at Texas and Texas with the talent it has is struggling in what is one of the worst years in this conference in decades..
 
We can probably take Franklin off the list...he was on mine.

Fluck...we're doomed.

Like I have said in the past, get a good HC, maybe from High School ranks. Use the money saved to pay the players. Baylor did it but they let the players go crazy. Have some terms for payment limiting bad behavior and watch the titles roll in.
 
STOP! STOP IT, BOY! WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING???

LISTEN, EVERYBODY!!!

IF WE DON'T HAVE URBAN IN THE BAG... WE DON'T... MAKE... A MOVE!

IT'S URBAN! THAT'S THE LIST! THERE'S NO "BUT PJ FLECK..."

STOP! IT'S URBAN! YOU DON'T RISK ANOTHER MEDIOCRE RESET! WE HAVEA PERFECTLY MEDIOCRE COACH, WITH ADMITTEDLY A HIGH POSSIBLE UPSIDE.

but no wish lists. our coach next year is Urban Meyer or it's Tom Herman. That's it.
 
STOP! STOP IT, BOY! WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING???

LISTEN, EVERYBODY!!!

IF WE DON'T HAVE URBAN IN THE BAG... WE DON'T... MAKE... A MOVE!

IT'S URBAN! THAT'S THE LIST! THERE'S NO "BUT PJ FLECK..."

STOP! IT'S URBAN! YOU DON'T RISK ANOTHER MEDIOCRE RESET! WE HAVEA PERFECTLY MEDIOCRE COACH, WITH ADMITTEDLY A HIGH POSSIBLE UPSIDE.

but no wish lists. our coach next year is Urban Meyer or it's Tom Herman. That's it.
Correct, I was illustrating the absurdity of going after another mediocre coach and paying him 7 million per year. It's dumb.
 
STOP! STOP IT, BOY! WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING???

LISTEN, EVERYBODY!!!

IF WE DON'T HAVE URBAN IN THE BAG... WE DON'T... MAKE... A MOVE!

IT'S URBAN! THAT'S THE LIST! THERE'S NO "BUT PJ FLECK..."

STOP! IT'S URBAN! YOU DON'T RISK ANOTHER MEDIOCRE RESET! WE HAVEA PERFECTLY MEDIOCRE COACH, WITH ADMITTEDLY A HIGH POSSIBLE UPSIDE.

but no wish lists. our coach next year is Urban Meyer or it's Tom Herman. That's it.

Yep...so Tom Herman it is. Yay!
 
Herman is not an employee at will. You don't just go into the office and say "Pack up your office. We'll mail you last week's pay check." He likely has some objective milestones and the ubiquitous "for cause" provision. The "for clause" provision is typically invoked for situations like Steve Sarkisian's behavior at booster events or Mike Price hitting the strip joints shortly after joining AL. You typically get out of paying severance if terminated "for cause." In Herman's case, I seriously doubt that the "for cause" provision would be invoked for the EOT matter. It, by itself, doesn't rise to the level of a typical "for cause" matter. Rather, CDC would aggregate this issue together with many other leadership issues and basically say "We want to go in another direction". By waiting until Dec. 1, the negotiation with the attorneys starts from a lower number.
I would say ignoring orders from the people who you report to would fall under “cause”. I ageee “cause” usually comes in to play with extreme situations, but that’s because most people are smart enough not to just ignore their boss
 
So, our 2 options are UM or stay with Tom another year? Then what?

Next year, UM says no......another year of TH because we can't start over with another mediocre coach. Year 3 rolls around and no UM. Hey Tommy, we need you to cancel the Uhaul.
We're in to year 4 and no UM.

Meanwhile, we haven't come within a 100 miles of the playoff, "The Eyes of Texas" has been replaced by "F*ck The Police", our colors are now black and orange because white uniforms are systemically racist, and the football team tears down DKR's statue. All under the guidance and leadership of our unic coach.

The longer that TH is allowed to have influence over our program, the worse it's going to get.
 
So, our 2 options are UM or stay with Tom another year? Then what?

Next year, UM says no......another year of TH because we can't start over with another mediocre coach. Year 3 rolls around and no UM. Hey Tommy, we need you to cancel the Uhaul.
We're in to year 4 and no UM.

Meanwhile, we haven't come within a 100 miles of the playoff, "The Eyes of Texas" has been replaced by "F*ck The Police", our colors are now black and orange because white uniforms are systemically racist, and the football team tears down DKR's statue. All under the guidance and leadership of our unic coach.

The longer that TH is allowed to have influence over our program, the worse it's going to get.

Very valid points.
 
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So, our 2 options are UM or stay with Tom another year? Then what?

Next year, UM says no......another year of TH because we can't start over with another mediocre coach. Year 3 rolls around and no UM. Hey Tommy, we need you to cancel the Uhaul.
We're in to year 4 and no UM.

Meanwhile, we haven't come within a 100 miles of the playoff, "The Eyes of Texas" has been replaced by "F*ck The Police", our colors are now black and orange because white uniforms are systemically racist, and the football team tears down DKR's statue. All under the guidance and leadership of our unic coach.

The longer that TH is allowed to have influence over our program, the worse it's going to get.

There will be no funding for this. Stundents can't fund the athletic department. It will go bankrupt. They already don't have enogh money to pay the coaches and admin.. It's on thin ice. Donors are pissed and aren't donating money. They aren't worried about losses as much as running out of money.
 
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So, our 2 options are UM or stay with Tom another year? Then what?

Next year, UM says no......another year of TH because we can't start over with another mediocre coach. Year 3 rolls around and no UM. Hey Tommy, we need you to cancel the Uhaul.
We're in to year 4 and no UM.

Meanwhile, we haven't come within a 100 miles of the playoff, "The Eyes of Texas" has been replaced by "F*ck The Police", our colors are now black and orange because white uniforms are systemically racist, and the football team tears down DKR's statue. All under the guidance and leadership of our unic coach.

The longer that TH is allowed to have influence over our program, the worse it's going to get.

i didn't say eternally. i'm saying "NEXT year".
 
Well, I am still holding out for the Pirate at Texas, he would purge the shit at Texas....

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So, our 2 options are UM or stay with Tom another year? Then what?

Next year, UM says no......another year of TH because we can't start over with another mediocre coach. Year 3 rolls around and no UM. Hey Tommy, we need you to cancel the Uhaul.
We're in to year 4 and no UM.

Meanwhile, we haven't come within a 100 miles of the playoff, "The Eyes of Texas" has been replaced by "F*ck The Police", our colors are now black and orange because white uniforms are systemically racist, and the football team tears down DKR's statue. All under the guidance and leadership of our unic coach.

The longer that TH is allowed to have influence over our program, the worse it's going to get.

I still say DKR was the best Coach wed ever had and will be to me and the Burnt Orange and White will always be the colors and the EOT will always be sung by somebody! Why shit, or next yr we will have all Black uniforms like the old Tech team, with white Longhorn Helmets if this shit continues
 
At some point you have to hire people and trust them to do their job. I don't understand how this is so hard.

We must hire this coach. Why are other big time programs able to successfully identify and hire quality coaches? If you assume that the next coach we hire is going to fail because the last 2 failed, we might as well just give up football.

How often do you attempt to do something, fail twice, and just give up?
 
Herman deserves at least one full year “Covid free” with “his players” to truly judge the results. Doesn’t he deserve that?
 
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Herman deserves at least one full year “Covid free” with “his players” to truly judge the results. Doesn’t he deserve that?
Not just NO. Hell NO. All programs had to deal with the Rona. Just like a windy, rainy game day affects both teams or slick greens affect all golf players. No team gets to use the Rona as an excuse. Nice try! 😀
 
With USC moving to 3-0. The odds of them making a play for Meyer are getting slimmer
 
A few people on here wanted PJ Fleck to be considered. Not naming any names. You know who you are. That guy is a joke. :rolleyes:
I’d still take Fleck over Herman... Minnesota isn’t a place where you are going to win consistently. They won 10 games in the regular season last year and that was their best season since like 1898. There are only a handful of programs that can recruit consistently enough to be a 9-12 game winner year in and year out. That’s why coaches get to those programs as quickly as they can in most cases
 
With USC moving to 3-0. The odds of them making a play for Meyer are getting slimmer

I really didn't see USC making a move towards Meyer anyway. They have a new ad from U Cincinnati which is where Luke Ferdette is currently coaching. The same Cincinnati that is ranked #7. If Clay Helton is fired USC might make a play for him. But this is just a guess on my part. And that guy on ESPN, David Pollack, was saying that LF would be good fit at MI Big X Midwestern ties and all. Really were all just speculating.

And here's the situation at USC. Although they are undefeated they're only ranked 20th. And they haven't won convincingly enough for the LA crowd that's just how it is there. He may have to win the Pac XII XII outright to save his job.
 
I really didn't see USC making a move towards Meyer anyway. They have a new ad from U Cincinnati which is where Luke Ferdette is currently coaching. The same Cincinnati that is ranked #7. If Clay Helton is fired USC might make a play for him. But this is just a guess on my part. And that guy on ESPN, David Pollack, was saying that LF would be good fit at MI Big X Midwestern ties and all. Really were all just speculating.

And here's the situation at USC. Although they are undefeated they're only ranked 20th. And they haven't won convincingly enough for the LA crowd that's just how it is there. He may have to win the Pac XII XII outright to save his job.
I think Luke Fickle would be a good get for anyone. 2 straight 11 win seasons, 8-0 this year. Not an easy accomplishment for any program.
 

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