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2019 Recruiting Thread

He's in. Texas beat out OU and tOSU.

For those that don't know this guy runs a legit 4.4 and has a 37" vertical.

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MOJO BABY!
 
We are the only big school (other than Oregon) to have top recruiting class but no 5-stars. We barely had any last year. We need to land some elite talent.

When are we gonna learn that these recruiting rankings are not the be all end all for defining elite talent? We've had our share of 5 stars that didn't do shit, and 3 stars that proved to be elite. Yes it's nice for bragging rights, but it's not a need to pile up 5 stars.

Take Jordan Whittington for example. The only reason he's not a 5 star, is he didn't participate in the summer camps. How dumb is that? T'vondre Sweat is a 3-star? Even dumber. Jake Smith looks like a 5 star to me as well.

Don't let the idiots that make these rankings define your satisfaction with our recruiting.
 
When are we gonna learn that these recruiting rankings are not the be all end all for defining elite talent? We've had our share of 5 stars that didn't do shit, and 3 stars that proved to be elite. Yes it's nice for bragging rights, but it's not a need to pile up 5 stars.

Take Jordan Whittington for example. The only reason he's not a 5 star, is he didn't participate in the summer camps. How dumb is that? T'vondre Sweat is a 3-star? Even dumber. Jake Smith looks like a 5 star to me as well.

Don't let the idiots that make these rankings define your satisfaction with our recruiting.
I don't think we need 5-stars in order to win games. And I definitely don't want to take a 5-star who isn't a good culture fit just b/c he's a big time talent. But I do think it will be an indication of the country at large fully buying in to our program. The lack at the moment signals to me a bit of a hesitancy still, like the shoe could drop at any moment and UT could fall back down. Once people knew Georgia was for real, they started getting big-time 5-star talent. Once we are able to convince some 5-stars, that will mean we've made an official impression on the country (especially the young players).
 
alabama has 22 total recruits and 13 of those are offensive or defensive lineman. Georgia has 9 of 17 lineman. we cannot continue to ignore the trenches.
 
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alabama has 22 total recruits and 13 of those are offensive or defensive lineman. Georgia has 9 of 17 lineman. we cannot continue to ignore the trenches.

Relax. They're coming. Herman intentionally takes longer with OL because he wants to be able to evaluate them on their senior year film. OL take longer to develop, which is why he also prefers to redshirt them. This is his process, so you might as well get used to it.

As far as DL, we may never get that many highly rated guys. The kind of DL Orlando loves for his defense, are not the typical guys that get high ratings. Sweat and that kid that decommitted from TCU are not highly rated DEs because they're not as tall as higher rated ones, but they're the perfect fit for Orlando. I'm gonna trust Orlando on this one.
 
Relax. They're coming. Herman intentionally takes longer with OL because he wants to be able to evaluate them on their senior year film. OL take longer to develope, which is why he also prefers to redshirt them. This is his process, so you might as well get used to it.

As far as DL, we may never get that many highly rated guys. The kind of DL Orlando loves for his defense, are not the typical guys that get high ratings. Sweat and that kid that decommitted from TCU are not highly rated DEs because they're not as tall as higher rated ones, but they're the perfect fit for Orlando. I'm gonna trust Orlando on this one.
Agreed, plus with Ojomo, Coburn, Ossai, and Williams in the fold from last years class we’ll be fine depth wise.
 
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Is Powell projected as a QB, or another position?
He’s going to start at QB I believe. But he could play WR and/or S/NB. He’s a ++ athlete. The depth chart will sort itself out (ala D.Jamison this year-who might switch back to defense next year). Usually it’s where the player can see the field quicker.
 
He’s going to start at QB I believe. But he could play WR and/or S/NB. He’s a ++ athlete. The depth chart will sort itself out (ala D.Jamison this year-who might switch back to defense next year). Usually it’s where the player can see the field quicker.

I think Johnson will end up as the QB of the future at Texas.
 
Relax. They're coming. Herman intentionally takes longer with OL because he wants to be able to evaluate them on their senior year film. OL take longer to develop, which is why he also prefers to redshirt them. This is his process, so you might as well get used to it.

As far as DL, we may never get that many highly rated guys. The kind of DL Orlando loves for his defense, are not the typical guys that get high ratings. Sweat and that kid that decommitted from TCU are not highly rated DEs because they're not as tall as higher rated ones, but they're the perfect fit for Orlando. I'm gonna trust Orlando on this one.

Why D line isn't the same. We don't need 2 NT's.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlon...rlando-cutting-edge-defensive-coordinator?amp
 
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Relax. They're coming. Herman intentionally takes longer with OL because he wants to be able to evaluate them on their senior year film. OL take longer to develop, which is why he also prefers to redshirt them. This is his process, so you might as well get used to it.

As far as DL, we may never get that many highly rated guys. The kind of DL Orlando loves for his defense, are not the typical guys that get high ratings. Sweat and that kid that decommitted from TCU are not highly rated DEs because they're not as tall as higher rated ones, but they're the perfect fit for Orlando. I'm gonna trust Orlando on this one.
I hope this is true and not just blind fan optimism. I'm confident Herman will eventually get there but it may be 1-3 years away to being full steam. The differences that still separate the current team from the dominate teams of the Mack Brown era are:
1.) good QB's
2.) Freaks on the DL
3.) better OL

There were ALWAYS freaks on the DL...

Hampton
Rodgers
Brian Robison
Rod Wright
Tim Crowder
Okam
Orakpo
Roy Miller
Henry Melton
Lamar Houston
Kindle
Eddie Jones
Sam Acho
Kheeston Randall
Alex Okafor
Chris Whaley
Jeffcoat
Dorsey
Malcom Brown
Ridgeway
 
I hope this is true and not just blind fan optimism. I'm confident Herman will eventually get there but it may be 1-3 years away to being full steam. The differences that still separate the current team from the dominate teams of the Mack Brown era are:
1.) good QB's
2.) Freaks on the DL
3.) better OL

There were ALWAYS freaks on the DL...

Hampton
Rodgers
Brian Robison
Rod Wright
Tim Crowder
Okam
Orakpo
Roy Miller
Henry Melton
Lamar Houston
Kindle
Eddie Jones
Sam Acho
Kheeston Randall
Alex Okafor
Chris Whaley
Jeffcoat
Dorsey
Malcom Brown
Ridgeway


How many guys on that list were 5 star recruits?
 
Exactly. I rest my case.
I think your case got destroyed. Every single guy on there was highly rated except Brian Robison (how many 5 star white DL's are there gonna be LOL). And on top of that they were about 40% five stars. That's INSANE stats.
 
I think your case got destroyed. Every single guy on there was highly rated except Brian Robison (how many 5 star white DL's are there gonna be LOL). And on top of that they were about 40% five stars. That's INSANE stats.

Sigh. My case is that one does not have to be a 5 star to be great. That 5 star ranking is not the be all end all.

You gave a list of greats that included not even half 5 stars. Let's just say 10 of them were 5 stars to be nice. That's still only half of them. That means over what, 14, 15 years, we didn't get a 5 star every year. Yet we still always had freaks.

This means a lot of 3 and 4 stars turned about to be great, despite idiotic recruiting rankings. Destroyed? Lol. You made my case.
 
Sigh. My case is that one does not have to be a 5 star to be great. That 5 star ranking is not the be all end all.

You gave a list of greats that included not even half 5 stars. Let's just say 10 of them were 5 stars to be nice. That's still only half of them. That means over what, 14, 15 years, we didn't get a 5 star every year. Yet we still always had freaks.

This means a lot of 3 and 4 stars turned about to be great, despite idiotic recruiting rankings. Destroyed? Lol. You made my case.
NONE of them were three stars except for one guy. And there is an extremely small amount of five star guys in the whole nation in any given year.
 
NONE of them were three stars except for one guy. And there is an extremely small amount of five star guys in the whole nation in any given year.

How do you keep missing the point? My whole point was just because we're not loaded with 5 stars, doesn't mean we're not getting great players. 5 stars. 5 stars. 5 stars, do you get it yet? It was all about 5 stars. I don't care how many were 3 or 4 stars, my point was that those guys can still be freaks.

Btw, 3 of those guys, three of the best on the list, were most certainly NOT 4, or even 3 star DL recruits. They were RBs.
 
Beat me to it. Houston, Melton, and Whaley were are jumbo back recruits.

Houston, Melton, and Whaley were not three stars. They were all very highly rated national top 100 four stars. In fact they were much closer to 5 stars than 3 stars. Yes Melton got a chance at RB and Whaley got two minutes only, Houston none. However, they all ended up and stayed where everyone suspected they would....on the DL as freaks.
 
I hope this is true and not just blind fan optimism. I'm confident Herman will eventually get there but it may be 1-3 years away to being full steam. The differences that still separate the current team from the dominate teams of the Mack Brown era are:
1.) good QB's
2.) Freaks on the DL
3.) better OL

There were ALWAYS freaks on the DL...

Hampton
Rodgers
Brian Robison
Rod Wright
Tim Crowder
Okam
Orakpo
Roy Miller
Henry Melton
Lamar Houston
Kindle
Eddie Jones
Sam Acho
Kheeston Randall
Alex Okafor
Chris Whaley
Jeffcoat
Dorsey
Malcom Brown
Ridgeway
If you read the article above, DL is important but it's the team speed with size that is more important as spread offenses have negated the advantage of recruiting large immovable DL. The linebackers are key. We need a replacement for gj.
 
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If you read the article above, DL is important but it's the team speed with size that is more important as spread offenses have negated the advantage of recruiting large immovable DL. The linebackers are key. We need a replacement for gj.

Especially in the Big 12
 
Especially in the Big 12

Look at your adopted big bro... (Tua) and all the passing that is going on at Bama. Looks like the backward $ec is learning, albeit behind the curve.

Orlando's D would do well in the $ec because it is easily adaptable to stopping many offensive schemes including running teams, think run blitz. He would run a heavy nickel package against $ec teams.
 
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Relax. They're coming. Herman intentionally takes longer with OL because he wants to be able to evaluate them on their senior year film. OL take longer to develop, which is why he also prefers to redshirt them. This is his process, so you might as well get used to it.

As far as DL, we may never get that many highly rated guys. The kind of DL Orlando loves for his defense, are not the typical guys that get high ratings. Sweat and that kid that decommitted from TCU are not highly rated DEs because they're not as tall as higher rated ones, but they're the perfect fit for Orlando. I'm gonna trust Orlando on this one.
we need more than 5 or 6 capable lineman thats my only point. we are 1 olineman injury away from last years oline
 
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