B12 in 2017 Bowls
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It’s pretty obvious from these bowl games the big 10 was penalized by the playoff committee for being a good, deep conference. That’s why the playoff has to expand and conference champs have to get bids... give the players something concrete don’t leave it all up to opinion.
Good grief the little ten is 7/0 during bowl season. They went 3 for 3 in P6 bowls and if MI wins on Monday it's a perfect season. I don't know if any conference has ever done this.
BIG10 does look like far and away the best conference this year. But it is hard to tell too much from the none playoff bowl games. Players don't even care enough to play sometimes. They feel like exhibition games at times.
I'm all for expansion to 8 and then conference champs can get in plus 3 wildcards. I don't want to see the Sun Belt or American or whatever getting in. If so, might as well leave it at 4.
When it comes to the P5 conferences during bowl season it's been extreme.
The little ten is 7/0
The Big XII is 5/2 and might end up 6/2
Right now the SEC is 1/3 with 5 games on Monday. It would do my heart good If Bama and GA lose on Monday.
Say what you want about the Big XII we've never done as bad in bowl season as the Pac XII did this year.
Right now the ACC is at 500.
The little ten is 7/0
The Big XII is 5/2 and might end up 6/2
Right now the SEC is 1/3 with 5 games on Monday. It would do my heart good If Bama and GA lose on Monday.
Say what you want about the Big XII we've never done as bad in bowl season as the Pac XII did this year.
Right now the ACC is at 500.
True bowl games aren’t the best indicator but I think most would of said the big 10 was the best or near the best even before bowl season.
I think it’s funny when fans say that players don’t like playing in meaningless bowls. Look if you’re an athlete and don’t like competition don’t call yourself an athlete. I find it hard to believe that these players don’t like the competition I just think fans like to use excuses. When you’re competitive losses hurt so using the type of bowl game you’re in as an excuse to not put in effort is garbage. I think fans like to say that but I can’t see players not taking the game serious.
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Yeah it’s not so much “not wanting to play” I don’t think that’s the case at all. It’s just a buisness decssion. I have tens of millions waiting on me, my dream is right there, I’ve made it. Do I want to risk all that on this game? And for a lot of guys the answer is no.
And btw the coaches are cool with it to. Franklin said today hey Barkley wants to play so I’m gonna play him but it’s gonna be a lighter load.
Not talking about sitting out. Speaking about players taking the field and playing. But some fans use the excuse of the team not wanting to be in a specific bowl.
Well I do think in some cases teams that were hoping to go to the playoffs and didn’t are t motivated to play. I mean your dealing with 18-22 year olds
The whole team just says nah **** this bowl but I’ll go to practice, meetings, bowl festivities, speak to reporters, spend time with my teammates some for the last time and not care about putting any effort into beating the other team? Ok.
Ok flip side of that. How do you explain Louisville blasting FSU sevral years ago
Boise besting OU
Utah beating Bama
I could go on. In bowl games you see teams get blown out or lose that probsbly wouldn’t lose in a normal situation. Motivation is a factor. You are using common sense. 18-22 year olds don’t use much of that
I'm tired of all this bowl games are meaningless blah blah blah
From my vantage point it sure looked like the Houston Bowl mattered to our players. It meant a winning record which meant a lot to our seniors. It gives them reason to think we didn't do this for nothing. We need to follow our players and be happy when they've done something meaningful. If it means a lot to them or should mean a lot to us. You wanna say some pompous, pretentious stuff and it's only the Houston Bowl tell them that to their face.
From my vantage point it sure looked like the Houston Bowl mattered to our players. It meant a winning record which meant a lot to our seniors. It gives them reason to think we didn't do this for nothing. We need to follow our players and be happy when they've done something meaningful. If it means a lot to them or should mean a lot to us. You wanna say some pompous, pretentious stuff and it's only the Houston Bowl tell them that to their face.
So everytime an unlikely defeat happens in a bowl it’s only because the better team didn’t feel like playing that specific bowl? Eh I claim BS. Look the fans make the excuses not the players. When a team like FSU or Alabama gets beat first thing the fans say “oh well the players didn’t want to be there”. OU vs BState went into overtime so I guess the OU players didn’t want to play.
You can tell in some bowl games that one team is lacking intensity. Trevor Knight beating Alabama is one of many examples.I’m an OU fan, but I can be honest about it regardless. It’s human nature with players. In other words you better bring it or you’re liable to lose to an underdog.
Some shenanigans in play? I remember one of Mack's better teams getting woken up in the night several times while in a hotel in College Station, for an early game. Kitchen staff didn't show up to make the breakfast meal on time.
Any complaints from Mizzou to that effect?
When so much money is changing hands, depending on the winner, you've got to think that it could happen.
Any complaints from Mizzou to that effect?
When so much money is changing hands, depending on the winner, you've got to think that it could happen.
That's aggy for you. They were calling the rooms to try to disrupt the Texas players sleeping, pulling fire alarms, and several players got food poisoning from what they ate at the hotel. So glad we're done with the college station cult.
For that reason, I’m fine with them losing every game.
Typically we stayed at the 4 Seasons in Austin and drove into college station with a Texas Rangers Escort on gameday. At least we did that from 95-99 while I was there.
In an attempt to get back to the original thread kudos to ISU and WI for winning bowl games in what was for all intents and purposes a home game for the other team.
So it’s human nature to want to lose when you’re a competitor? Cool.
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I'm pulling for Georgia and Clemson, and Clemson to win and go back to back. The $EC no longer being the best conference is great. Hope the slide continues.
All of that is true, but it doesn't disprove anything.
Texas and OU are still recruiting rivals, and OU's high-level success still costs Texas far more in recruiting than it gains from any ultra-attenuated benefit conferred by conference reputation. Their head-to-win recruiting wins especially hurt us when we play them but also cost us something in every single game we play. (Also, Riley and OU are recruiting the state of Texas with renewed vigor, and you can rest assured that OU selling a 14-1 national championship season to the class of 2019 will create a headwind for the staff of 7-6 Texas.)
No amount of logical gymnastics will change the fact that it is still easily a net negative for Texas for OU to win a national championship (or make the CFP). If a Texas fan wants to pull for OU, he just needs to know that he's pulling for a result that negatively impacts the team he claims to support the most.
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Rank stupidity and obnoxiousness.
It would be nice if those yearning to tongue some Sooner butthole would head on over to one of the OU sites instead of cheering for results that negatively impact Texas on a Longhorn board.
This never had to be explained in the past. It was axiomatic to being a fan of the Texas Longhorns.
I’ll never root for OU with that said Texas needs to generate winning seasons going forward. No matter what Ws matter more than anything to these kids now. Loyalty to a school or state is pretty much rare.
Don’t want to see Alabama or OU win the MNC. Both recruit Texas hard.
Well, I guess I for one am yearning to tongue some Sooner butthole. Reason No. 1,456 I hate the Aggies - they have trained me to root for my conference. I'm with you BBR, its hard to do. But next year, it'll mean a little more when UT defeats the defending national champion ...
Whoever wins the Red River game, it always means something.
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