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TCU beat a rapidly improved Oregon, without seven defensive starters, with their third string QB instead of the Heisman-quality Boykin, and without their top three receivers. And Baylor beat a surging North Carolina with their third string QB. Heard enough?
Aggies are such delusional asshats. No NCs, no BCS wins, no CCs this century, mediocre in Big 12 and SEC, players and coaches leaving droves, alcoholic HC who can't be fired, recruits getting arrested, and getting beaten by Big Brother in recruiting two years in a row. I'll hang up and listen--I need a good laugh!
We can play this game all day.
Whats your point?
No need to go all 2014. Leave that to aggy. I like Bedford. I like Strong. I feel like they can fix the D. But at points last year it was very broken. In fact historically bad statistically. And the W's/L's reflect it.
Up until the ISU game, I thought it was mostly circumstances or just other teams exposing our youth. But that game was inexcusable. And after the BU game I started to question what the hell they were really do from the most basic X's and O's standpoint. It is very simple math and discipline to load the box and set the edge and stop the wildcat.
The most simple JR kids can be taught it. We made no attempt to adjust anything BU adjusted and did. Instead sat back in a soft prevent pass D, with corners and safeties and 10 and 20 yrd drops. LBs somewhere behind them in Mexico. And 3 DLs. They admitted it was their plan to stop BUs passing attack. And then when BU had their only QB go down and the WR/QB sucked, they put an RB back there and ran the wildcat up and down our throat the entire second half. And we did nothing. They only attempted like 2 to 4 passes and all were on the last drive....and yet we stayed in a soft pass defense and soft set. It was so bad it was damn near unforgivable. And it almost cost us the game.
So what about 2014? Year 3 will be telling. I really don't think the following is going to play out this way. But Manny Diaz looked brilliant in year 1. Mostly thanks to all the work Muschamp had locked in to the players. By year 2 Diaz had screwed the system and the kids all up. Sumlin looked great in yr 1 at UH thanks to Briles, until that shine wore off and Sumlin infected the team (same goes at ATM where he cashed in on Sherms OL and JFF and a new spread system the SEC knew little on how to defend). I really don't think our D looked good in year 1 thanks to the previous regime. But it sure trended WAY down in year 2. Lets get it fixed in year 3 and beyond.
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jeeeeze docag....YOU are the one that brought up what a watered down conference the Big 12 is....I hadnt mentioned em before that....I was merely using factual data to show that argument was false. Perhaps trying to troll on another teams board is not your best strategy.
Docag...in many ways you seem to be a reasonable guy. I would suggest not trying to rationalize aggy logic.
Docag...in many ways you seem to be a reasonable guy. I would suggest not trying to rationalize aggy logic.
1. The University of Texas is never stuck anywhere. We could be in any conference, or independent, if it suited us. That's what makes Texas difficult to live with.
2. Aggie fans also defended the Big XII, up until they got the news that TAMU had run off. Suddenly, overnight, they worshiped the SEC and despised the Big XII. Neither your statement nor mine really amounts to much, other than it's what college fans do. We defend our alma mater. There's something to be said for loyalty -- heard of that concept, Aggie? -- but it can also lead to a delusional fan base and yes-think on the staff. I know you've seen THAT.
Speaking of conference pride, how's the BB competition? There's Kentucky, I guess, and who???
Nor should you. Nor should anyone. Nor can you.
A) You listed 5 teams that are still here to say it used to be better? Great logic.
B) Nice range of pretty good to great. I love how you guys always lump yourselves in with teams that have accomplished something. A&M leaving this conference did absolutely not diminish it. In fact, adding TCU to replace you was a net gain for us.
C) Nebraska was the only loss of the 4 who left.
We're not. David Boren at ou is. But it's not happening.
What talk? Dishonest much? The Big XII is very stable and all members granted their tv rights to the conference until 2025. Nobody's going anywhere.
Good. Because they're better than you.
DocAg getting owned up and down this thread.
Just quit while you are behind.
Or make a quality response for once here. You really are spinning around and round, scrambling.
Just quit while you are behind.
Or make a quality response for once here. You really are spinning around and round, scrambling.
Riddle me what happened to Bama two years ago when they went into the playoffs to face a non-SEC team?
They lost, just like Oklahoma.
Oklahoma, Baylor and TCU are hands down better than most every team in the SEC not name Alabama. I'd go so far as to say only Ole Piss and LSU are the only teams that would give them a game.
Looking at the teams that left the Big 12 and comparing to the two teams that replaced them, I'd rank them like this.
1. TCU
2. Nebraska
3. Missouri
4. WVU
5. aggsy
6. Colorado.
All the Big 12 has to do is replace what Missouri brings and what colorado brings and the Big 12 would be right back.
Well SEC getting 6 teams in so I'm guessing not bad. And...um..what competition is there in the Big 12? A&M went 4-0 against the Big12 and won each game by double digits including your Horns. You can't talk smack here.
So wrong on so many levels. You talking overall athletic program? Money? Or are you just talking football? Overall, not one of those teams is better than A&M as an athletic program. Nebraska is the only better overall athletic program. Like I said I think that TCU has done well under Patterson but they were a doormat in the old SWC and A&M kicked their ass every year. You guys said yourselves on this board that TCU or Tech isn't the same on Thanksgiving. Why? No matter how good TCU is no one gives a damn about them because they are TCU. They don't sell tickets, they can't fill their stadium no matter who they play.
We have heard how those teams are better than SEC teams. Try winning bowl games against lessers before you brag about how you would beat SEC teams. We heard before how OU was going to kick A&M's butt and how did that work out? You can keep claiming how you could go join any conference and I believe that, but don't kid yourself that you are thrilled about being in the Big 12. Please lie to me and tell me how much you enjoy going to Lubbock, Manhattan, Aimes, Lawrence, Ft Worth to an empty stadium, Baylor's cute stadium that holds what 50K and West Virginia? You enjoy those road trips?
In the WAC and Mountain West? Yes, I hope they were superior there. What did they do when they were SWC? A&M has won 24 straight against TCU...shut them out 21 times in our rivalry and own a 56-29 record against them. Tell me how superior they were in the WAC, Mountain West, and Conference USA?
And just think.....Texas owns aggy worse than aggy owns tcu. Now when Texas points this out the aggy comeback is always "that is in the past" but when aggy has a winning record against someone they roll it right out! Pathetic.
Texas enjoyed breaking it off in aggy on thanksgiving, not because aggy was some great football team, but because shutting a loud mouthed aggy up was just so much fun.
There is more than just head to head over a selective time span. You know, like all the other games. And titles, etc. TCU actually competes and wins conferences. When does Aggy win a conference?
Playoff spot this past year, seems like they're doing ok.
Horns should have a few legit shots at the playoffs before the conference implodes. On the other hand, the odds of aggy beating both daddy 'bama and lsu is vanishingly small...
Hook 'em
And why is it you think you can talk about any major collegiate sport? You've never seen a title in one and you never will in your entire lifetime. Oh yeah I forgot. $EC$EC$EC!!! Go get your Pom poms.
I would beat money Docag that if Texas played aggy again in basketball this year that we would give them a great beat down. Shaka has this team playing a whole lot different now then earlier in the season.
Talk about a moving target. TCU and Baylor are both your daddy in FOOTBALL.
You want to talk about money, no one has more than TEXAS.
You want to talk prestigue, no one in Texas has more than TEXAS
You want to talk power, no one has more than TEXAS
You want to talk alumni, no one has a bigger richer base than TEXAS
You want to talk stadium, no school has a bigger one in this state than TEXAS
For all your money and alumni and stadium, your team is still shit, hasn't won anything since Hitler was alive. Your athletics sucks donkey balls, or maybe it's sheep balls.
Your team is all about tradition, well the one tradition you never stop is sucking.
And you talk about winning bowl games, you have what 17 bowl wins in your history. Mack Brown had 13 when he was at Texas. I wanted him to stay just so he could personally catch up to your whole program.
I can't speak for anyone, but I don't care what conference Texas plays in. You see going to Aimes and Lubbock are just fillers because every year Texas plays 6 games in Austin Tx.
You know why it's important to play games in Baton Rogue or Tuscaloosa? Answer, because you get the chance to see your team play someone good in a place that doesn't suck. You know why teams line up to play Texas, because they want to play someone good in a place that doesn't suck.
You know why Texas again kicked aggsy ass in recruiting? Because they want to play for Texas and represent this state. All you can sell them is who they will play against because no one cares to play for aggsy.
Yeah, you had a neat little team there all the way through the end of January. Congrats on that.
Turnabout is fair play. Shame on me for relying on conference smack in basketball. You've heard about conference smack, I trust? We rely on it when our team has few actual accomplishments, but I wasn't really relying on it... these Horns have impressed mightily this season.
Oh, btw... And how are your Ags doing LATELY in BB???
Lord help me I love watching aggys grind their teeth. You can tell this whiff on Brick to join his old mentor really stung them. And right on the heels of their 0-fer-15 stretch at the end of the recruiting season. They're on full tilt right now.
Lately...suckage. And, I'll be honest that if the Horns and Ags played today I'd bet the Horns would win by double digits. I think they are playing really well and will be a dangerous team in the tournament. I already said even when the Ags were in the top 5 that I didn't think they were that great. I think they have loads of talent but Kennedy sucks.Turnabout is fair play. Shame on me for relying on conference smack in basketball. You've heard about conference smack, I trust? We rely on it when our team has few actual accomplishments, but I wasn't really relying on it... these Horns have impressed mightily this season.
Oh, btw... And how are your Ags doing LATELY in BB???
Remember...Top 5 team in January will be going up on the wall at Kyle Field.
Yes, I know Texas is a big name. Can you show me where I've said different? Don't get your feelings hurt and get defensive of Texas. This isn't comparing A&M to Texas. I get that. This is comparing A&M to all of the others mentioned and it's really a silly argument.
And to your other point, yes teams want to play games at Texas because they are Texas, but it isn't because of the environment. Texas, for such a powerhouse team doesn't have a great environment at all. They are never in any kind of top 10 in toughest places to play or best college environments.
Admitted in another post that Texas is playing better right now and would probably win by double digits, but until then...scoreboard. We probably won't find out.
What conferences? WAC? Mountain West? Conference USA? Iowa St would have been competing for conference titles there.
Whatever the reason you have, you know you lost with TCU in that spot. It doesn't matter what TCU is ranked, it is a horse crap environment and no one cares about the game. The last 30 years you didn't exactly break it off in us.
The environment at Texas gets bigger with the level of opponent we play. The environment was really nice when we played Ohio State, and Ole Miss. Big games brings out the best at DKR. We might not get overly excited to play aggsy anymore, but that is because we always win. Our fans are used to seeing excellence, so bad and mediocre doesn't cut it in Austin.
You can compare Aggsy to TCU and Baylor and feel all high and mighty, but in truth you should feel ashamed because with all your resources they are kicking your ass. I'll point something else out. Back in the 80's and 90's Florida and FSU were the two big schools in the state of Florida, but it was little Miami playing in half empty stadiums that were winning 5 national titles. So don't count out TCU and Baylor, they might just sneak up and win it all one day.
Environment might not match collieville, but the product on the field is superior to anything the aggsy have ever shown. Same with Baylor.
Has anyone been to the refurbished TCU stadium? Pretty darn nice, and right in the middle of campus. Bigger does not necessarily mean better - they have nothing to be ashamed of. I hate Patterson, but I've got more respect for what TCU has done than just about any other program in the country. They were booted into oblivion when the SWC disbanded. Instead of crying, blaming, finger pointing, etc. --- they rallied the entire city of Fort Worth around that school (which is hard to do for a small private - see SMU), opened up the wallet, and started kicking a**, lifting themselves up by sheer will to a Power 5 conference and an idiot commissioner away from making (and probably winning) the Final 4 a year ago. Compare that -- the little engine that could -- with that mediocre, flailing behemoth in College Station. Tell me which one you would rather have.
TCU was forced to take a step back and now they have taken several steps forward.
Aggsy took a step forward and will be forever stuck in the mud as they are not competitive and likely will not be for many years to come. The downfall of the aggsy will forever be their pride. They wanted to get out of the giant Texas shadow, but now they are in the shadow of several other programs including Texas and Oklahoma.
I almost feel sorry for them...almost.
Aggsy took a step forward and will be forever stuck in the mud as they are not competitive and likely will not be for many years to come. The downfall of the aggsy will forever be their pride. They wanted to get out of the giant Texas shadow, but now they are in the shadow of several other programs including Texas and Oklahoma.
I almost feel sorry for them...almost.
Whatever else you think about TCU the fact of the matter is that when it comes to fb the Big XII got the better end of the deal when we replaced you with TCU.
And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't TCU beat a&m to get to the CWS?
And to the above reply about TCU and Baylor being your daddy in fb a few fun facts for aggies like you. The enrollment at Baylor and TCU counting graduate students is less than half of the enrollment at a&m. And yet they're still better than you at fb.
Kyle Field has 20, 000 more seats than the stadiums at Baylor and TCU combined. And yet they're still better than you in fb.
Their head coaches are better than yours. Oh and one other thing about Baylor athletics in comparison to a&m's. Their basketball program is better than yours especially womens.
And one last thing about TCU vs a&m. Fort Worth may not be NYC, but it beats the hell out of College Station.
Now what else do you want to talk about?
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TCU won a Rose Bowl a couple of years before they joined the Big 12. ISU would never win a Rose Bowl from any conference -- same as aggy.
I will give you that Doc....but is was not because you played up to our level....it was because we played down to yours.....Besides....those years we won, we made count...we won Conference titles....we won a Natty...and we went to another. We went to Rose Bowls....what in hell did you do?....TCU gets to play in major bowls...what do you play for? Just because you dont have an interest in that game doesnt mean a damned thing. I dont happen to have an interest in nut squeezing, but I wont get in the way of yall doing it.
I read somewhere that TCU had 6 top 10 finishes in the last decade. Has aggy had 6 top 10 finishes since 1939?...Docag is correct....TCU is not in aggys league......they are many levels above it.
