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Chip Brown reporting Tom Herman to LSU

UH did not suck balls before UH got there

They went 12-1 in Sumlin's last year

Tony Levine went 5-7 8-5 7-5
The next year Herman went 12-1

They werent great but didn't suck they had some success. If your looking for a program that sucked balls before he got there, and were looking at a mid major type let's look at PJ Fleck. They went 4-8 before he got there.

Fleck went 1-11, 8-5, 8-5, and now 12-0. If your looking for a program builder he looks to be your guy. If I had to pick a mid major coach to be the next great one I'd probably pick him over Herman, Harsin, etc

As far as a coaches who I think we could get that might win a national title.

Gus Malzahn. Always felt like he would kill it at Texas. He's already led a team to the national title with auburn. Has went head to head with Saban and beat him at least once.

Larry Fedora-knows the state as good as anyone won at southern miss winning at north Carolina as much as anyone can.

James Franklih- rumor was he was the runner up to stomg. Has built a solid program out of a terrible situation at penn State.

I'd start with those 3 and go form there. I left out the dabo, Peterson, harbaugh types. I think it's silly to not at least look at these guys.

Oh Im sorry. Levine did a great job clearly. Are you his father?
 
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What conference is Houston in? Soft ass USA? Sorry, losing to smooo is inexcusable.

Herman beat FSU OK and Louisville. Yeah he lost to some bad teams too, but he beat the big boys when he played them.

Im not sold on Malzahn and Franklin probably isn't going anywhere. The point is that there isn't any guarantee they would be a homerun either.
 
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Oh Im sorry. Levine did a great job clearly. Are you his father?
I just don't think 7-5, 8-5, 7-5 fits in the "sucks balls" definition. Not saying he did a good or bad job. If your looking for a progeam that sucked balls before a certain coach arrived there are better examples IMO.
 
I just don't think 7-5, 8-5, 7-5 fits in the "sucks balls" definition. Not saying he did a good or bad job. If your looking for a progeam that sucked balls before a certain coach arrived there are better examples IMO.

Fair enough. I can think of one. Kansas :/
 
Oh Im sorry. Levine did a great job clearly. Are you his father?
Ironic that 21-17 (Levine's record at Houston over 3 seasons) wasn't good enough for the Houston Cougars to retain Levine. But, Texas was going to likely retain Strong for a 7-5 or 8-4 season. This would have made Strong's Texas record 18-19 or 19-18.
 
Herman beat FSU OK and Louisville. Yeah he lost to some bad teams too, but he beat the big boys when he played them.

Im not sold on Malzahn and Franklin probably isn't going anywhere. The point is that there isn't any guarantee they would be a homerun either.
And that's why I say Herman won't be the type of coach that wins titles. It's easy to get your teams ready for big games against FSU and OU. How many times have we seen mid majors beat the big school in the bowl game. OU was the first game of the year again easy to get up for. It's great to win the big games but you gotta take care of the little ones to. Go look at Urban Meyer's recored at Utah. He lost TWO mountain west games in two years. Saban lost won mac game in his only year at Toledo. I agree no one is a garuntee but if you bet on track recored over flash you'll probably be right most of the time.
 
Herman isn't solid gold but I like his upside. If there was a for sure Urban Myer Id be all over it. But Strong can't continue, so it has to be someone.
I agree and because Herman isn't solid gold that's why I'm advocating at least looking at and interviewing some other guys. I'd look at jim McElwain to. Improved his win total every year at CSU 4-8, 8-4, 10-2. Won 10 games in his first year at UF going for his 9th this year(would have 10 but game canceled)

Not sure he's leave but you never know if you asked
 
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I agree and because Herman isn't solid gold that's why I'm advocating at least looking at and interviewing some other guys. I'd look at jim McElwain to. Improved his win total every year at CSU 4-8, 8-4, 10-2. Won 10 games in his first year at UF going for his 9th this year(would have 10 but game canceled)

Not sure he's leave but you never know if you asked
We have to act quickly. Our recruiting class sucks. We need a coach to hit the trail ASAP.
 
Wrong. A newbie showed up yesterday claiming that Herman already signed the contract with LSU. He claimed to have sources and just spoke with them. We tried to tell him he was wrong. But, the clown continued on a foolish rant.

You're talking about somebody on a message board. That has no credibility in the first place. It was a Texas website that started the whole Herman to LSU thing, and ESPN picked it up.
 
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Yep. Some college coaches that won faster than Strong at their current location:
1. Harbaugh at Michigan
2. Herman at Houston
3. James Franklin at Penn State
4. who else?

I know there are others. I have read their names recently.

^^^^^^^This....folks want to defend Charlie and that's fine, he's a helluva man, the kind of guy you want for a neighbor, but not coaching my college team. People say that Charlie inherited an empty cupboard and Mack Brown had left nothing for him to work with. Now that is debatable, but what isn't debatable is the freakin' dumpster fire/goatf**k that Franklin picked up and turned around at Penn State.
 
Well if that's all we're looking for than by all means Herman is the guy. I'd rather make sure we get it right.


Exactly, but the rush to hire got us David McWilliams, Mackovick, and others but by all means make it quick. Something stinks here and I'll be the first to name him Mr Football Jr..
 
Herman is not the right guy. He is/was hot but not now. Take a look at sumlin. He was hot at Houston. But now he is on the hot seat. If we get rid of Strong, it better be right.
 
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Herman beat FSU OK and Louisville. Yeah he lost to some bad teams too, but he beat the big boys when he played them.

Im not sold on Malzahn and Franklin probably isn't going anywhere. The point is that there isn't any guarantee they would be a homerun either.
Doesn't it seem like any of these guys are homeruns?! I feel as though Texas is proclaimed to be this big powerhouse and we are struggling to hire the "homerun..." Guys should be flocking to us, yet they have seen the way the Admin and BMD deal with coaches and none of the "homerun" hires want to come here.
 
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Doesn't it seem like any of these guys are homeruns?! I feel as though Texas is proclaimed to be this big powerhouse and we are struggling to hire the "homerun..." Guys should be flocking to us, yet they have seen the way the Admin and BMD deal with coaches and none of the "homerun" hires want to come here.

Successful coaches at big-time programs essentially never leave for other big-time programs. Too many of our fans fail to understand that while Texas might be the top overall job, there's not a lot of separation between it and several other top jobs. Plenty of schools can pay loads of money and have easy access to fertile recruiting grounds.
 
Successful coaches at big-time programs essentially never leave for other big-time programs. Too many of our fans fail to understand that while Texas might be the top overall job, there's not a lot of separation between it and several other top jobs. Plenty of schools can pay loads of money and have easy access to fertile recruiting grounds.
Yep. Texas cannot get any coach they want by simply offering them a big pay day. We need to be realistic.
 
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Yep....where are those two DoucheNoobs now that reports indicate Herman will interview at Texas and Orgeron is gaining the big Mo at LSU?

They are over at texags.com or soonerscope.com having a big laugh at the chaos they caused.

Managers, trainers, video staff, office staff, academic advising and support, nutritionist, medical staff

Maybe he need to have that control, I don't know, all I do know is when we pick a head coach we need to commit to them and give then what they need to succeed. There are no excuses in this job. Win or go home.

I personally wouldnt mess around with him. I'd give him the same contract and control Strong had. If that's not enough then go to LSU the guy has coached like 28 career games. Don't bend over for him.

The next coach needs to win or go home, no excuses will be acceptable, and that means Belmont needs to step up and commit to that success.

Ouch. I'm not high on Herman but damn he's not that bad haha.

Here is my view on Herman. I think he will be a guy that does just good enough. I think he will absolutely own OU and I think he may go in to LA next year and beat USC. But he will lose one or two games that your like WTF? He will be 9-3, 10-2 pretty much every year. Not bad enough to fire but not where we wanna be. Seems like he might be a tad arrogant to. Might not have great relationships with boosters and such.

You just described Mack Brown to a tee.

You're talking about somebody on a message board. That has no credibility in the first place. It was a Texas website that started the whole Herman to LSU thing, and ESPN picked it up.

BINGO, but the fact that ESPN so easily picked it up and ran with it, is the bigger joke.


^^^^^^^This....folks want to defend Charlie and that's fine, he's a helluva man, the kind of guy you want for a neighbor, but not coaching my college team. People say that Charlie inherited an empty cupboard and Mack Brown had left nothing for him to work with. Now that is debatable, but what isn't debatable is the freakin' dumpster fire/goatf**k that Franklin picked up and turned around at Penn State.

What Franklin has done at PSU is nothing short of a miracle. Texas wasn't ever devoid of talent, Texas has been devoid of Leadership since 2009.

Herman is not the right guy. He is/was hot but not now. Take a look at sumlin. He was hot at Houston. But now he is on the hot seat. If we get rid of Strong, it better be right.

There is zero correlation between Herman and Sumlin outside of the University of Houston. Just because one is a failure, doesn't mean the other will be. What I know is that the odds of success with Herman are less than the odds of John Harbaugh being successful.
 
I need to un ignore the two morons on this thread. Though I'm sure drake is hearing from his source that Texas won't get Herman after all and he is just now signing his contract with LSU.
 
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They are over at texags.com or soonerscope.com having a big laugh at the chaos they caused.



Maybe he need to have that control, I don't know, all I do know is when we pick a head coach we need to commit to them and give then what they need to succeed. There are no excuses in this job. Win or go home.



The next coach needs to win or go home, no excuses will be acceptable, and that means Belmont needs to step up and commit to that success.



You just described Mack Brown to a tee.



BINGO, but the fact that ESPN so easily picked it up and ran with it, is the bigger joke.




What Franklin has done at PSU is nothing short of a miracle. Texas wasn't ever devoid of talent, Texas has been devoid of Leadership since 2009.



There is zero correlation between Herman and Sumlin outside of the University of Houston. Just because one is a failure, doesn't mean the other will be. What I know is that the odds of success with Herman are less than the odds of John Harbaugh being successful.
I was thinking of Mack brown as I was describing that. Macks hang up though most years was OU

I don't think we will have any problem at all in big games under Herman. Some slip ups in games we should win will keep us from some big games.
 
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