Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Close, but no 2024 cigar?)
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Wouldn't making Fox "whole" just be us paying them for the difference in what they would make in ad revenue versus the median Big 12 team ad revenue? The article seems to imply that we would be paying the entire ad revenue for games lost by Fox and not considering they will fill those time slots with another game. What am I missing?
Could you do a breakdown of the top 50 ranked HS recruits in their first year like you did to the portal recruits?
A couple of things.
a. Those were soft estimates based on the bare minimum of breaks Fox can have in a game. The math involved is a little hard to pin down because we don't know exactlly what Fox is saying they need to be whole and the math they used to get there.
b. Fox's willingness to be made whole. Some people just want to see the world burn.
The silver lining for Terry is that if he finishes this season strong, I would guess he’s going to have some nice offers to really take over somewhere where he can prove this wasn’t a fluke. It’s a great opportunity for him to reset the narrative around him to some degree.
Lol shouldn’t this be obvious. Top 50 portal recruits are made up of either proven college players looking to upgrade or disgruntled highly rated recruits who have been in the college system and don’t want to wait to play. Both of those trump a top 50 high school player who is completely unproven in the college game. Now outside of the top 50 portal recruits it’s a lot different debate
First - This was a great War Room. It was full of great information. Thanks!Not in the next 5 minutes, no?
Second - Enjoyed the data on the transfers and what they accomplished their first year. It seemed to me that there were many on the top 50 that Texas was not interested in because we were not interested in bringing in because we thought we had equal or better players on the roster or that we were recruiting. (OL, RB, TE, DB)
The only ones on that list that I wish we would have gone after ( and I don't know if they had any personal issues that would have prevented us from offering them) were:
#3 WR Jordan Addison
#7 LB Drew Sanders
#8 DL Akeem Mesidor
#14 DB Christian Gonzales
#21 DE Chop Robinson
#26 LB Mohamoud Diabate
#31 LB Darius Muasau
#48 WR Charlie Jones
We could have used a WR, LB, DL, DB and DE off that list but I don't know if we could have promised that they could start (even though they probably could have)
There were a lot of good QB's, RB's, OL, DL and other that we were not looking to bring in.
Thanks for the thought provoking post.
So which top 50 High School recruit would the give up to get an equally rated portal transfer that same year?
I’d imagine every team’s cutoffs are different but I’d think closer to top 75-100 maybe? I’d really need to see a list but think of it this way: how many top 50-100 HS players play their freshman season and contribute at starter level statistically. Most top 50 portal players are plug and play starters and have played college ball at a high level or were high level recruits
I don't think they will transfer to a school unless they are pretty sure they will start at that school. Of course that is just the top 50 transfers.
The conversation shouldn't be about the top portal players vs. the best HS prospects.
It's about top Portal players and even medium-tier Portal players vs. marginal HS prospects.
I think the list of players that could have helped the program is much, much longer than the one you listed.
Who would you add to the list and why?
Also the reasons why we would be concerned of affecting the current player recruits adversely or not
I mean .if you really knew someone was going to an all american you take regardless.
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All of these players would have made Texas better in 2022.
3. WR Jordan Addison (USC via Pittsburgh): Was named as a first-team All-Pac 12 player in 2022, despite batting an injury for more than a month during the middle of the season. Is expected to be a first-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft.
7. LB Drew Sanders (Arkansas via Alabama): An All-American for the Hawgs in 2022, who finished as a finalist for the Butkus Award. Is expected to be a first- or second-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft.
8. DL Akeem Mesidor (Miami via West Virginia) - Emerged as a key starter for the Hurricanes at DT, recording 38 tackles, 10.5 tackles for loss and seven sacks as a sophomore.
9. DB Brandon Joseph (Notre Dame via Northwestern): Started all 10 games for the Irish as a junior in 2022, but wasn't quite the impact player for the Irish that he had been for the Wildcats in the previous two seasons.
11. WR Jermaine Burton (Alabama via Georgia): Was a 12-game starter for the Tide, catching 33 passes for 540 yards and 6 touchdowns as a junior.
12. Edge Jared Verse (FSU via Albany): Earned All-America honors in 2022 as a junior after recording 37 tackles, 16.5 TFL and 9 sacks.
13. OL O'Cyrus Torrence (Florida via Louisiana): Earned consensus All-America honors in 2022 and was a first-team All-SEC player. Is regarded as one of the best interior line players in the upcoming NFL Draft and was a standout at this week's Senior Bowl.
14. DB Christian Gonzalez (Oregon via Colorado): A first-team Al-Pac 12 selection in 2022 for the Ducks. Declared for the NFL Draft in December and is expected to be a first- or second-round pick.
16. DL Gabriel Murphy (UCLA via North Texas): Started in all 13 games this season for the Bruins as a sophomore, recording 38 tackles, 4 TFL and 1.5 sacks.
17. DL Grayson Murphy (UCLA via North Texas): Started all 13 games for the Bruins as a sophomore, finishing second on the team with 9 tackles for loss and 5 sacks.
18. WR Jacob Cowing (Arizona via UTEP): Led the Pac-12 in receptions with 85, while finishing fourth in receiving yards (1,034) and tied for second in touchdown receptions (7).
20. OL Kingsley Suamataia (BYU via Oregon) Started all 12 games for BYU this season as a freshman. Named to several freshman All-American teams. May eventually move into the difference maker category in a season or two.
21. DE Chop Robinson (Penn State via Maryland): Earned second-team All-Big 10 honors as a sophomore in 2022 after recording 23 tackles, 8.5 tackles for loss, 4 sacks and a forced fumble.
23. WR Mario Williams (USC via OU): Started all season as a sophomore for the Trojans, catching 40 passes for 631 yards and 5 touchdowns.
24. DB Eli Ricks (Alabama via LSU): Started the season slow, but came on late in the year to become a very strong starter for the Tide. Declared for the NFL Draft following the season.
26. LB Mohamoud Diabate (Utah via Florida): A 12-game starter for the Utes, Diabate recorded 58 tackles, a team best 13.5 TFL and ranked sixth among Pac-12 linebackers with 5 sacks.
29. OL Tyler Steen (Alabama via Vanderbilt): Started all 13 games for the Tide at left tackle and was named All-SEC by the league's coaches. Played at the Senior Bowl this week and is getting ready for the NFL Draft after one season at Alabama.
31. LB Darius Muasau (UCLA visa Hawaii): Earned second-team All-Pac 12 honors after leading the Bruins with 91 tackles in his final season. Is currently getting ready for the NFL Draft.
34. WR Jadon Haselwood (Arkanas via OU): Led Arkansas with 59 receptions for 702 yards and 3 touchdowns.
36. WR Ricky Pearsall (Florida via Arizona State): A 10-game starter for the Gators who caught 33 passes for 661 yards and 5 touchdowns.
38. WR Tyler Hudson (Louisville via Central Arkansas): Led Louisville with 69 receptions for 1,034 yards and 2 touchdowns.
39. WR Mitchell Tinsley (Penn State via Western Kentucky): Led Penn State with 51 receptions for 577 yards and a team-best 5 touchdowns.
43. WR Antwane Wells (South Carolina via James Madison): Earned 1st-team All-SEC honors after leading the Gamecocks with 68 receptions for 928 yards and 6 touchdowns.
44. LB Eric Gentry (USC via Arizona State) - Emerged as a starter at inside linebacker as a sophomore and recorded 71 tackles, 4 tackles for loss, 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles.
48. WR Charlie Jones (Purdue via Iowa): Earned All-America and first-team All-Big 10 honors after catching 110 passes for 1,361 yards and 12 touchdowns.
50. WR Johnny Wilson (Florida State via Arizona State): Earned second-team All-ACC honors as a redshirt sophomore, catching 43 passes for 897 yards and 5 touchdowns.
Yeah, LeBron “sux”
I’m not even a LeBron fan, but to say he sucks tells us all we need to know about your basketball IQ.
That’s a conversation? Seems like a medium tier portal prospect largely trumps a marginal HS prospect. What am I missing? Obviously a top portal prospect tops a marginal HS prospect
Just so we are clear: Tarique Milton is medium tier and so is Diamonte Tucker Dorsey right?
Right. He’s not talking about replacing any of the 6.1 or 6.0 recruits, which would be the top 50. There’s a group of players that make up the other 15-20 or so recruits in the class that are much more long shots compared to top portal guys, at least as far as the stats go.
