Sounds like a male prom night for rednecks. I hope you brought everyone's corsages.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Junior Day is a single step, not the journey)
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Warren has never so much as played pretty well against a good team/defense.
He's not on the same level as Foreman. That's just not true.
When has he ever actually gotten into the game against one for more than four carries? Seriously, that's an argument with no basis.
Everything he's shown to this point, the skill set he's demonstrated, would indicate he is. Had it been Foreman who went out for the season against Oklahoma State this past season, I have no doubt that Warren would have finished with very similar stats.
At this point, we'll just have to agree to disagree. We'll see how developments play out from here.
Ketch-
First, I do recognize that you're just poking the animals with a stick. And doing a fine job!
But I can assure you that if you think either Wyatt Earp or Tombstone was appreciably more authentic or less hokey than the other, then you probably need to do a little more research on the time period/area. Both flicks being "cartoonish" compared to reality.
Personally, I like em both. But I also know I'm not seeing a documentary in either case.
First, I do recognize that you're just poking the animals with a stick. And doing a fine job!
But I can assure you that if you think either Wyatt Earp or Tombstone was appreciably more authentic or less hokey than the other, then you probably need to do a little more research on the time period/area. Both flicks being "cartoonish" compared to reality.
Personally, I like em both. But I also know I'm not seeing a documentary in either case.
He's a straight line runner with limited physical skill that will play well against the little sisters of the poor and struggle against teams with above-average skill/talent.
He's made to terrorize the Texas Tech's of the world. On a field against better athletes like Notre Dame, he was just a guy.
But, hey, as long as there are a few Techs and UTEPs on the schedule....
Rio Grande, Fort Apache, and She Wore A Yellow Ribbon (the John Ford trilogy filmed in and around Monument Valley, Utah) were all great. Might add Rio Bravo with Dean Martin, Ricky Nelson, Angie Dickenson, and Walter Brennan.
I think there's little doubt that Warren was limited by the hamstring injury against Notre Dame.
Limited physical skill? OK.
But if he can stay healthy this year, just like Foreman had to prove he could in 2016, then I'm sure that whatever it is he's got, or doesn't have, will get put on full display.
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But is that necessarily the case? Does Bama have the same degree of attrition on an ongoing basis and win championships?
And even if the correlation you propose is there, does that prove causation? It's an important difference.
@Ketchum
Of the guys you list above that transferred or where dismissed etc. Let's say for argument sake that they where still around and living up to their billing, what's your top three or five that would be impactful on last years/ this years team had they still been around? Would any of them be sure fire starters or just jags?
Of the guys you list above that transferred or where dismissed etc. Let's say for argument sake that they where still around and living up to their billing, what's your top three or five that would be impactful on last years/ this years team had they still been around? Would any of them be sure fire starters or just jags?
Hell, Bama will have more seniors drafted than we had on our roster!
It is an interesting comparison because everybody knows that Saban is a total dick and you would think that he would run off a ton of 3 - 4 star talent when he treats them like an "average joe" and they start out at number 4 - 5 on the depth chart.
I think it must have something to do with playing for the National Championship virtually every year. Probably easier to get kids to suck it up and wait their turn when you are never losing games and the guys playing in front of them are kicking ass, than sitting on the bench for a 5 - 7 team with some guys on the field obviously struggling.
I believe ' My Darling Clementine " far exceeds Tombstone or Wyatt Earp . Gunfight at O.K. Corral tops those two as well . You've also missed some superior silent westerns such as The Iron Horse and Wild Horse Mesa and The Pony Express .
Nice job, as always.
Didn't recognize Patel as the guy on Slumdog Millionaire until wife pointed it out The guy knows how to choose roles. Much better movie than La La Land, IMO. Only movie not seen is Moonlight, but will happen. I'd put La La Land third behind Lion and Manchester. Looks great unless you've seen the movies of the earlier age it honors -- then it drops to good.
Congrats on the $10K. Glad to have been a contributor, but $25K is a lofty goal.
Attrition happens. Raulerson was a shame because he was such a good kid and hard worker; would have nice if only to give Zach a chance to redshirt. Recruiting is like drafting -- as much luck as science.
Women's game is huge, but Baylor played lousy and Texas played over their heads for 3/4. But we'll be there tonight to see if they can pull out a huge win. If I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet against Mulkey -- she'll have her team ready. Should be a great game.
Baseball -- a split against #25 is no small deal. But until they can demonstrate the ability to string hits and score runs, this may be a frustrating year. Morgan Cooper -- please stay healthy. And need those weekday game wins.
Hook 'em!!!
Didn't recognize Patel as the guy on Slumdog Millionaire until wife pointed it out The guy knows how to choose roles. Much better movie than La La Land, IMO. Only movie not seen is Moonlight, but will happen. I'd put La La Land third behind Lion and Manchester. Looks great unless you've seen the movies of the earlier age it honors -- then it drops to good.
Congrats on the $10K. Glad to have been a contributor, but $25K is a lofty goal.
Attrition happens. Raulerson was a shame because he was such a good kid and hard worker; would have nice if only to give Zach a chance to redshirt. Recruiting is like drafting -- as much luck as science.
Women's game is huge, but Baylor played lousy and Texas played over their heads for 3/4. But we'll be there tonight to see if they can pull out a huge win. If I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet against Mulkey -- she'll have her team ready. Should be a great game.
Baseball -- a split against #25 is no small deal. But until they can demonstrate the ability to string hits and score runs, this may be a frustrating year. Morgan Cooper -- please stay healthy. And need those weekday game wins.
Hook 'em!!!
1. Lonesome Dove
2. The Searchers
3. Unforgiven
4. The Good, Bad and The Ugly
5. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
6. High Noon
7. Red River
8. Wyatt Earp
9. Shane
10. Stagecoach
Excellent list though I put The Searchers at the top of any list I make. (Even though I've only seen it 15 times). I'm not sure which I would bump to include it, but IMO Sam Peckinpah's Ride the High Country belongs there somewhere. And maybe The Westerner, which has two of the great performances in a Western of all time by Gary Cooper and Walter Brennan.
2. The Searchers
3. Unforgiven
4. The Good, Bad and The Ugly
5. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
6. High Noon
7. Red River
8. Wyatt Earp
9. Shane
10. Stagecoach
Excellent list though I put The Searchers at the top of any list I make. (Even though I've only seen it 15 times). I'm not sure which I would bump to include it, but IMO Sam Peckinpah's Ride the High Country belongs there somewhere. And maybe The Westerner, which has two of the great performances in a Western of all time by Gary Cooper and Walter Brennan.
I'll take the scenes MJF had with the lovely, but unfortunately just passed, Margaret Whitton in The Secret of My Success over that any day...
the health part is the other elephant in the room. I'm not telling you not to buy Warren stock, I'm just saying be careful.
No, Bama does not. I haven't done the Bama data over as long of a stretch, but I have looked at it this decade and its attrition was close to half as less. I have only looked at a few schools, but the Texas numbers were higher.
I'm not suggesting I don't like Tombstone because I do, but I'm not someone that found Wyatt Warp boring.
It's a longer, fuller story with better acting, with all due respect to Val Kilmer, who was without question the single biggest star of the two movies.
Every kid in that program believes they will play in the NFL. Even the scrubs. What better way to get there than through that program. Even backups can be drafted.
I never said this was THE list. It's MY list. I would never claim to be an expert on the genre, but I've seen a number of the greats.
A few thoughts.
1. Patel is emerging as one of the most underrated actors in Hollywood. I thought Lion was a great opportunity for him to feel more American/English, which will hopefully allow him a wider range of roles.
2. Raulerson came down to terrible communication and direction at the top of the program. That transfer did not need to happen, but Strong flat out mishandled that situation. He should be here right now and he should be one of the few, natural upper-class leaders. People didn't want to admit that Strong was a failure when that happened, so they threw stones at Raulerson, who was in a bad player/coach relationship with Joe Wickline (who treated everyone like crap) and received mix signals from his coach when he took a chance to walk into his office and be honest).
The team did not get better because that happened.
3. Let's aim high. I have a possible plan to get us to 25k.
4. I thought Texas was just better than Baylor two Mondays ago. We'll find out soon enough.
5. agree on baseball thoughts.
After reading 5 pages, I am just amazed that the best western of them all hasn't
After reading through 5 pages, I am amazed that one of the best westerns ever made hasn't been mentioned. The Wild Bunch was awesome!!
Mercy, has there ever been a worse hire than Wikline? I'm not debating his coaching skills or how it relates to the Raulerson situation, but the buy out issue at Okla St to his people skills never matched at Texas. I remember doing back flips when he was hired.
I agree. The whole movie was outstanding. I could watch it again tonight. Who could have written that story? Surely they had to live it. And the dialogue was exceptional in my opinion for American made films. The practice it must have taken to get it right. If there was an award for dialogue coach, this film would win hands down.
