It’s top 10 running backs. Not top 10 “big game”running backs. Emmitt was a product of a system.
If you flipped situations Emmitt doesn’t register
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It’s top 10 running backs. Not top 10 “big game”running backs. Emmitt was a product of a system.
If you flipped situations Emmitt doesn’t register
Yes, playoff games. That's when great players' greatness is judges in every sport.
Still waiting for that top 5 list.
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You didn't answer the question.
Yes, playing at an elite standard when the highest stakes are on the line is what defines greanless in sports.
Not some rando game in October when nothing is on the line.,
Robert Horry has seven rings. Does that make him the GOAT or do you look past team achievements in the category?
I've answered the question already.
Do we not determine the greats in all sports by the standards they create when the most important stakes are on the line?
That wasn't a dig at yall. I was just telling you what I have been hearing for the last 6 months. This whole board has ignored it or chalked it up to NIL. Hope Texas does what it needs to to get him on campus and in a uniform. He is a great kid and player.
Yes but doesn’t make him the best rb of all time
I looked it up - these are the first team all pro instances
Smith with cowboys
Oline players - 3 players 10 times
Other players 5 players 7 times
Sanders with Detroit
Oline 1 player 1 time
Other players 3 players 4 times
Football is a team sport - one player doesn’t win a title / depth is hugely important
You argue that all the time for the longhorns about it mattering
@Anwar Richardson In your Robert Horry example, Emmitt Smith is Hakeem or Tim Duncan.
Barry Sanders is Allen Iverson without the Finals appearance.
Barry Sanders is Allen Iverson without the Finals appearance.
Dick Butkus, Gale Sayers, Larry Wilson, and Floyd Little are in the Hall of Fame and never went to playoffs. Sometimes the experts look past the obvious to judge greatness.
Has any other running back ever been the lynchpin of a dynasty or anything close to a dynasty?
Sucks if he goes to Tech. But, better than OU, A&M, LSU, etc.
Also, Emmitt was a badass.
Also, Emmitt was a badass.
I'm not saying Barry wasn't a great player.
I'm saying he did not play at a high level when the stakes were the highest.
None of those other players you mentioned are in the discussion for the best of all-time at their position outside of Butkus. He has some of the same holes in his career resume.
It's why he can't be compared with someone like LT or ray Lewis.
Basketball can’t even be used as a direct comparison it’s so different
One great basketball player can carry a team
One great football player can’t
I went back and fixed it...not before you quoted it. Ha. It wasn't.
Really having to redefine your rankings to justify him.
He’s not even in top 5 Super Bowl performances.
Just rerank and admit the error
Assuming we don’t count Covid 2020, this is Pierce’s sixth full season. Gus won his first NC in his eighth season.
If someone had told us after Augie was moved out that his successor would have the success Pierce has had, we’d have taken it in a heartbeat.
If someone had told us after Augie was moved out that his successor would have the success Pierce has had, we’d have taken it in a heartbeat.
Actually you pointed out his head coach was too dumb to give him the ball more than 11 times when he was avg 4 yards per carry
These are the discussions that remind me which mod to listen to regarding analysis of our current squad more seriously
Come on Ketch. Emmitt was a great back. Barry was a great back. Most people couldn’t name a single player on the Detroit Lions not named Barry Sanders. . I’m not a Cowboy fan and can name their entire starting offense. Dallas was a top 5 all time team. They had Hall of Fame players in front of Smith. This is a borderline ridiculous thread.
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You’re conflating QBs and soccer strikers and hockey centers and pitcher 1 in rotations with RBs.
By your reasoning, Justin Tucker isn’t in the GOAT kicker convo bc he’s only been 15-19 in 11 playoff games over his entire career thus far.
I’d say Terrell Davis on Denver’s back to back titles if we aren’t giving offensive lineman credit like we aren’t with the cowboys
But Davis doesn’t belong in the top 10 rbs - but I’d say he qualifies as a yes to your question also
Butkus was considered an all-time great at one point. Sayers was considered an all-time great at one point years ago.
The playoffs are a reflection of a team sport. Tom Brady won multiple rings by riding the success of his defense. Same goes for Peyton Manning.
Emmitt could have never accomplished Barry's numbers in Detroit.
Emmitt was not afraid to step up and take on a blitzing LB, Barry not so much.
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