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Longhorn's Fall Camp Thread

We are actually already thin at lb but would love to see Foster in the mix

Actually none of the starters have suffered anything yet.
The two LBs injured wouldn't have even played according to Todd Orlando.

I would worry about it more IF players were not getting injured
 
The biggest concern for Texas coming out of camp, with 12 days as of Monday until the Longhorns take the field for the Sept. 1 season opener against Maryland, is the number of injuries suffered at linebacker. Todd Orlando, who coaches the linebackers while also serving as defensive coordinator, has one player currently suspended from the team, two others who were injured during camp and a safety who spun down on a temporary basis who’s also on the shelf.

Tom Herman made no bones last week following a practice when stating his level of concern for the depth at arguably the most important position in Orlando’s defense.

“High,” Herman said.

Orlando said following Saturday’s scrimmage that his 3-4 defense (Texas bases out of a nickel look with the nickelback replacing the field-side linebacker) runs through the two inside linebacker positions. There’s not a lot of depth currently alongside Rover (weakside linebacker) Gary Johnson with Anthony Wheeler unavailable for the first half of the Maryland game due to a suspension he has to serve after being ejected by way of a targeting penalty from the Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl last December and backup Mac (middle) linebacker Ayodele Adeoye (along with temporarily converted safety DeMarvion Overshown) already ruled against the Terrapins due to a knee injury.

Orlando said the only option the Longhorns have is to mix, match and piece things together for the time being because of the lack of depth.

“Right now we’re thin,” Orlando said. “But we have options off of that.”

Orlando declined to go into specifics regarding personnel due to the Longhorns being so close to facing Maryland. However, the likely plan based on what Herman said following a recent practice would likely be to start 270-pound Malcolm Roach next to Johnson with true freshman Joseph Ossai manning the No. 1 B-backer spot.

That’s assuming Jeffrey McCulloch doesn’t return from a strained pectoral in time for the game. Herman said last week that he’s hopeful to have McCulloch back by game week, but outside of the junior returning from injury the Longhorns would have to rely on using a safety in a different package with Chris Brown and B.J. Fosterthe most likely candidates to fill the Joker role in the Lighting package (dime personnel with six defensive backs on the field).

“The good thing is we’re pretty well versed in our dime package too,” Herman said. “If we had to live in that for a week or two I think we could.”

One player the Longhorns won’t likely have this season is Demarco Boyd. The third-year sophomore remains suspended following an altercation that allegedly took place on July 4 and Orlando didn’t sound optimistic about Boyd rejoining the Longhorns this season.

“In my opinion, he’s just no longer a part of this team right now,” Orlando said. “From our standpoint, we’re moving forward until Tom Herman tells me something different.”

Even with Boyd being indefinitely removed from the squad, Adeoye and Overshown both out for the Maryland game, Wheeler being forced to watch the first half of the opener in the locker room and McCulloch’s return not set in stone, Herman is concerned but he’s not panicking about the depth at the second level of the defense.

“We’ll find a way to get through it,” Herman said.
 
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Yeah when I posted that I was hoping he gpt smarter with the ball in those crunch times.
A year makes a huge difference from freshman to sophomore, so, I think all of our wishes that he got smarter with the ball will come true.
 
I dont remember who the guy is on the D line, but they said he is STRONG. The phrase was..."moves grown men against their will" Supposedly he does not have quick twitch, but they said he cannot be moved. Maybe Imade, but not sure.
 
There are stupid interceptions and there are ones made by taking chances.

Ehlinger was the reason on offense that we had a chance to beat SC.
No one gives Ehlinger credit for winning the K State game.

Oklahoma St and Tech are two games I think he would take back

At that point Ehlinger was not 100%.

To get back to my original point.

You don't throw an interception up 14-0 in the second quarter

If you are down by ten in the 4th and you want to take the chance then sometimes it is not a horrible interception because you are giving the team a chance to win.


For a QB to make big plays you have to take a chance.

Texas has a D and hopefully a running game so Ehlinger needs to be a game manager more than a gun slinger though
Will he do that? I have my doubts.
 
I dont remember who the guy is on the D line, but they said he is STRONG. The phrase was..."moves grown men against their will" Supposedly he does not have quick twitch, but they said he cannot be moved. Maybe Imade, but not sure.

Imade is on the OL.

Could be Coburn who is 6-3 330.
Coburn is a monster. The NT that likes to play nasty.

If he is a quick twitch....I have no idea.
The guy can move at 330 though.
His high school produces elite DLine.
 
I dont remember who the guy is on the D line, but they said he is STRONG. The phrase was..."moves grown men against their will" Supposedly he does not have quick twitch, but they said he cannot be moved. Maybe Imade, but not sure.
I don't know if Roach is the guy, but, that dude is one of those naturally strong and stout guys. I am really looking forward to watch what he does this season more than anybody else on the defense.
 
Will he do that? I have my doubts.

Some of the criticism of Ehlinger is based on frustration.

I get that. I also get that a true freshman was asked to carry this team and at times he flashed moments of brilliance.
You have to think that as he matures he will become a lot more comfortable as a QB.

There was once a time when UT fans wanted to see Chance Mock over Vince Young. Especially early in 2003.
 
well....Sam is the guy. Fine with me. Folks talk about him not being accurate like it is something rare among QB's....It isnt. What we need from Sam is to play like he can play, Lead like he has shown and cut down on the mistakes. If we cant be understanding of the fact he was a true freshman last year, then we are a tough crowd indeed.
 
well....Sam is the guy. Fine with me. Folks talk about him not being accurate like it is something rare among QB's....It isnt. What we need from Sam is to play like he can play, Lead like he has shown and cut down on the mistakes. If we cant be understanding of the fact he was a true freshman last year, then we are a tough crowd indeed.

I think a lot of us forget he was a true freshman as well as learning a new offense. Well the whole offense was learning a new playbook as well as trying to gel and take in a new coaches culture and system. Let the kid play some games to see what we have and trust Herman knows which QB gives us the best chance to win.
 
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Yes, I did. I think Sam may always be a gunslinger. Most of them aren't Brett Favre.
 
Yes, I did. I think Sam may always be a gunslinger. Most of them aren't Brett Favre.

According to reports Ehlinger is our starting QB for the next three years
Unless of course he dramatically falls off or Cameron Rising takes a huge leap.

Unlike Ehlinger, Tim Beck is developing Rising slowly.

I actually see more moments of brilliance than moments that he does not belong.

If he stays healthy and continues to develop than by 2019 and 2020 we will have an outstanding QB.

Then just need someone to bridge the gap to Preston Stone.
Hopefully Rising because I like the kid.
He RS this year then he can start in 21 and 22.
 
I'll tell you why Sam is starting over Shane. Just Gimmie a couple of days.

Shane mentally collapses under pressure and DCs quickly figured out if you deny him his first read it is a crap shoot after that.
 
Shane mentally collapses under pressure and DCs quickly figured out if you deny him his first read it is a crap shoot after that.

Do not know his academic situation but if he is on pace to graduate early then he may grad transfer in March.

I think he is sticking around one more year to compete.

If we never sew him start another game for UT the Horns are in a good position
Nothing against Shane but Ehlinger is the QB for UT to win.
 
Shane mentally collapses under pressure and DCs quickly figured out if you deny him his first read it is a crap shoot after that.

I don't think that's the case at all. Last year neither QB had the time to make it to their second read. The O-line wasn't good and the running backs weren't threats. Opposing defenses were getting pressure with 3 or 5 guys. It was really bad last year. Sam is 6'3" 235 and was able to get away from pressure more consistently than Shane was last year. Even if Sam is a year better it is going to be a long season if the RBs and OL aren't much better than last year.
 
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The fumble against SC was unlucky. The oSu INT was idiotic and easily adjusted. Other than that, I can’t think of much he did wrong other than be a true freshman.
The pick 6 against WV was pretty bad but he rebounded right after throwing it. We erase 3-4 costly plays we win 2-3 more games last year. Though we need to remember he put us in position to win the OU and USC games.
 
Shane mentally collapses under pressure and DCs quickly figured out if you deny him his first read it is a crap shoot after that.
Last year Sam would tuck and run after 1st read and get 1-2 yards most of the time. I disagree with whoever made that statement until we have the luxury of having an OL that can block enough for us to establish a viable running game.
 
Last year Sam would tuck and run after 1st read and get 1-2 yards most of the time. I disagree with whoever made that statement until we have the luxury of having an OL that can block enough for us to establish a viable running game.

Which is 8-10 yards better than Shane taking a sack.
 
Which is 8-10 yards better than Shane taking a sack.
Well, man, that is a different argument. The argument was that Shane supposedly had a mental break down if his 1st read is not there. Based on that argument, the same could be said for Sam because he would throw an ill advised pass or try to run. I am not giving Sam a hard time, I love his passion and I understand he was a freshman. I just don't agree to label Shane that way. I am glad Herman came out and awarded the starting role to Sam (no big surprise) so that it is no longer a distraction. BTW, I also no longer want to talk about last year, ugh, it no longer matters and this season looks like it will be improved and something to build on.
 
According to reports Ehlinger is our starting QB for the next three years
Unless of course he dramatically falls off or Cameron Rising takes a huge leap.

Unlike Ehlinger, Tim Beck is developing Rising slowly.

I actually see more moments of brilliance than moments that he does not belong.

If he stays healthy and continues to develop than by 2019 and 2020 we will have an outstanding QB.

Then just need someone to bridge the gap to Preston Stone.
Hopefully Rising because I like the kid.
He RS this year then he can start in 21 and 22.
Rising is the future IMO. Would love to see him redshirt this year. Depends on the health of Sam and where we are in the rebuild. Buechele can play but he isn't the guy. If Sam gets concussed again this year (and he will based on reports that we're going to lean on the run), it will be interesting how quickly they move up Rising. He's apparently got the "it" and has a huge arm.
 
Rising is the future IMO. Would love to see him redshirt this year. Depends on the health of Sam and where we are in the rebuild. Buechele can play but he isn't the guy. If Sam gets concussed again this year (and he will based on reports that we're going to lean on the run), it will be interesting how quickly they move up Rising. He's apparently got the "it" and has a huge arm.

Rising has some size on him.
He is around 225.
Supposedly they took it slow with him and are trying to get his feet wet.

I think he has a great future and someone who can win games if his name is called
 
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Did I miss the @clob94 annual fall camp practice report? Or is that being postponed? Sorry... hard to catch up on this thread with football and school in full swing.
 
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i hope sam has learned from last year. h e had so many great moments. he also had a few of the worst decisions ive ever seen.
 
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