Recruiting Thread 2017

[Scholz]

Still have Graham and Boyce coming in. Boyce is on offer watch.

ATH Darrion Green is coming down, too. Another possible offer candidate if the coaches like his athleticism: http://247sports.com/Player/Darrion-Green-78366

 

[CoachEmUp64]

 

[Scholz]

Ha. Not funny, Baron. Maybe a little.

 

[Scholz]

OB War Room:

As we mentioned last weekend, UT tight end commitment Major Tennison made his way to Austin on Saturday for a bit of a surprise visit, taking in the Longhorns' spring practice.

In talking to Tennison, the visit has actually been in the works ever since he came in for UT's Junior Day in late February, and Tennison said last weekend's visit made a strong impression. More on the visit in a bit ...

Getting Tennison on campus was huge for Texas, with Tennison having taking recent visits to Alabama and Arkansas and openly wavering a bit on his UT pledge. Tennison has been pretty open from the jump that he has questions about UT's offense moving forward (primarily how the TEs will be used), and him getting to see things first-hand was a nice first step for Texas. The Horns will get another chance to impress the standout from Bullard when he comes back for the Orange-White game on April 16. Those two visits will help UT's cause, but Tennison is taking a very thorough approach and his viewpoint is similar to fans, media and everyone else watching Texas in 2016 - he wants to see the actual product in games before he finalizes his decision.

Up next, Tennison heads to Michigan on Friday for a weekend unofficial visit. That trip will be another key development, because I've always felt the Wolverines were the Horns' biggest threat.

Back to the UT visit ...

Key quote: "It was great just to get to see the tight end usage, get to see as of right now what I'll be a part of in year or two."

More .. "I got to see that Caleb Bluiett was in a lot. I felt like he was in almost 100 percent of the time, either going out or out of the backfield. They showed me one package they had just put in that week, where he got to go flex out and be a receiver in the slot. Other than that, it was just great to see how much he was in and part of the game plan."

Where things now stand: Seeing one practice wasn't going to slam the door shot on Tennison's recruitment, but it was one small step forward towards reeling in his commitment.

"The practice didn't hurt at all. I really liked what I saw. It was great to see the usage of the tight ends," Tennison said. "At same time, it's not a game against a real opponent, not the real deal yet. I'm still very open to other schools, but I love Texas, always have. I want it to work. From what I saw, it was really good to see."

No other visits scheduled for now: Aside from the Michigan trip and the return visit to the Forty Acres for UT's spring game, Tennison does not have any other trips on the books at this point. He did say he'd like to eventually make his way out to Georgia and he may take a return visit to Arkansas with his mother since she didn't get to accompany him the first time (that trip happened a couple weeks ago during his spring break).

My thoughts: Not a lot has changed for me on this one. Tennison loves UT and like he said, he wants it to work with the Longhorns, but nothing will be settled on this one until he gets to see the Texas offense on the field in the fall. (Suchomel)

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Texas signed five defensive tackles in the 2016 class. There has been speculation whether or not one or more of those players may be tried on the outside at defensive end. It looks like we have our answer.

I checked in with Euless Trinity product Chris Daniels this week and the Rivals250 member said he recently had an interesting conversation with the UT coaches.

Key quote: "About d-tackle, they actually want me to play d-end and a little d-tackle. They told me that a couple weeks ago," Daniels said. "I'm doing this new workout, shedding bad body weight, getting between 295 and 300. I'm doing the diet they gave me and working out on my own."

Daniels said a lot of places talked to him during his recruitment about playing some defensive end, but Texas is the first one who has told him that will be his primary position. According to Daniels, the UT coaches told him he'll spend about 90 percent of his time at end and 10 percent at tackle. He's fine with the move.

"I'm very athletic. Imagine if I lose 15 pounds," he said.

Cutting weight: Daniels said he's currently at about 325 pounds. He's trying to get to about 300 before he reports on June 2.

He does have experience playing defensive end after lining up at that position as a sophomore before transitioning to DT as a junior as a senior. To show a little of Daniels' versatility, when he was a freshman, he was a 6-2, 220 running back and defensive back running a 4.6.

"I don't think there's anyone else that's coming in our class that's playing both positions like me," Daniels said. "I feel that helps me."

Daniels said he's been doing more running and cardio of late and has been going back to the drills he worked when he was a freshman trying to improve his footwork and quickness. He feels he'll be able to shed some weight pretty easily.

"I kind of was eating bad stuff. It was like 'Man I'm training really hard but not getting the results,'" Daniels said. "This was before I got the packet (from UT). Now I'm losing fat around places that were fat, getting confidence."

Focus this spring: Along with his workouts, Daniels said his primary focus since Signing Day has been on his school work.

"I'm taking care of everything, my SAT, making sure I have everything clear and finish strong, have a 3.0 for the year," Daniels said.

In addition to the traditional work, Daniels is also writing essays for the UT drama club (Department of Theater and Dance) and working on recommendations from his current director to help him get into that program as well, carrying over a talent he has put on display in high school.

What he's hearing: Daniels and the majority of the rest of the 2016 class continue to communicate via a group text message. Center Zach Shackelford is among those on the group chat.

"They (the early enrollees) say it's hard, but if you grind, it'll come naturally," Elliott said. "They're all giving us some tips." (Suchomel)

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Looking for a possibility for UT's next commitment?

Keep an eye on Cedar Hill wide receiver Camron Buckley.

Texas was one of Buckley's first offers and the Longhorns are very high on his list (most feel Texas is the leader, although Buckley has not said that publicly).

This week, Buckley said he may make a decision in the next month or so. (Suchomel)

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Temple defensive end Taquon Graham, who holds a UT offer, will be at UT's practice on Saturday. He'll be coming in with Lake Dallas DB Kobe Boyce, who is hoping to pick up a Texas offer of his own.

Key quote: "I've been talking to the coaches. I've mainly been talking to coach Bedford. He's the one who has been recruiting me the most out of all of them," Boyce said. "Coach Haley hit me up, told me to come down there. The Texas Relays are this weekend too and they're having a scrimmage so they wanted me to come down there."

Could an offer be coming?

"It seemed like they wanted to offer for a while, but since they got coach Clay Jennings to coach DBs, things have slowed down but I feel like it's coming soon," Boyce said.

It won't shock me if Boyce picks up an offer this spring, but my guess is the coaches will wait to evaluate him a bit more this spring so Jennings can get a first-hand look at Boyce on the field. Texas will definitely be checking on him during the spring evaluation period, but Boyce thinks there's a chance he gets a UT offer before that period.

"They said they're going to come down and evaluate me, but I wouldn't be surprised if the offer came before then," he said. "But we'll just have to see."

Timeline: Boyce, who is creeping up on 15 offers, said he's waiting until the end of spring ball to narrow his list (at the earliest) because he wants to see if other schools jump into the race.

If Texas offers, Boyce said the Longhorns would be high on his list. Don't be surprised to see UT move to No. 1 with a bullet if a Texas offer is extended.

"They'd be up there. They may be the top, it just depends," Boyce said. "I just want to get to know the coaches a little better. I like the vibe up there. I just want to get a better relationship up there. That could determine if they'll be at the top but I feel like they would be."

Boyce will visit Texas A&M on Friday. Ole Miss and Mississippi State are also pushing hard for spring visits and Boyce said he's considering hitting those two campuses as well. (Suchomel)

 

[Scholz]

Top OOS programs poaching TX recruits (InsideTexas)

On Tuesday we discussed the in-state and/or in-conference foes who have the nerve to recruit players who by birthright should be going to the University of Texas. Today we’ll look at an equal enemy, those dastardly poachers who slink in under the cover of darkness and bag big-game trophies.

In 2014, eight Texas prospects in my Top 25 left the state for what they perceived to be greener pastures.

In 2015, ten did so. While those exact numbers aren’t as important as the overlying theme, Alabama alone has taken 10% of the 50 players in the combined Top 25’s. Though Alabama’s Texas hit rate isn’t all that great, if you give Matthew Quigley enough shots at the bucket he’ll hit a A’Shawn Robinson or two from long range.

When Charlie Strong initially took the UT job he said his goal was to close the borders. With two Top 10-ish classes he’s putting the footings in place to build a wall, but until he lands a Top 5 class, top talent is still burrowing out at too great a rate. He’s going to build a wall around Texas and make the SEC! pay for it! It’ll be great.

Texas is a large state with the largest population of college football prospects. There will always be coaches choosing to come here on safari. Until Texas wins, the state’s doors will be open. It won’t matter who else wins, including A&M.

Let’s take a look at the greatest threats to Texas football sovereignty.

ALABAMA (number of outstanding Texas offers: 20)

Last two cycles: CB Kendall Sheffield, ATH Deionte Thompson, CB Jared Mayden, OG Chris Owens, QB Jalen Hurts, DT Kendell Jones.

The fallout: Dare I say, the biggest miss may prove to be Owens, but I don’t want to count Sheffield or Thompson out just yet. I liked Hurts a lot but he would have been a poor selection for Texas given its immediate needs. I wasn’t as high on Jones as most so that one didn’t bother me at all.

2017 concerns: Recently Texas TE commit, Major Tennison, visited Alabama and though we still feel Texas is the team to beat, it is Alabama. Other concerns are DT Marvin Wilson, DL Lagaryonn Carson (mild concern), LB Anthony Hines, S Jeffrey Okudah, OL Edward Ingram, and WR Tyrell Shavers.

Most concerned about: I’m most concerned about Tennison because he’s a monster, committed to the good guys, and he’ll be needed as a true freshman. Of the un-committed, I’d say Ingram. I think he’s the most likely to end up there. It doesn’t hurt Texas much, however, because he isn’t showing interest in the Horns. A late play for Hines – who fits that defense perfectly – would cause a scare.

Current status in Texas: As the grandest name in the sport anyone they offer is a concern, but fortunately many players still prefer to stay close to home. That will always be an inherent positive for UT. One must always be leery of Bama at all points in the process. Last year it plundered Owens, Jones, and Hurts early, and Mayden very late. Irvin Smith wasn’t a Texas recruit, but we still felt the sting.

LSU (19)

Last two cycles:OT Maea Teuhema, OT Toby Weathersby, ATH Hanner Shipley, WR Dee Anderson, DB Eric Monroe, LB Rahssan Thornton

The fallout: At one point or another during the 2015 cycle Texas had Teuhema, Weathersby, Connor Williams, and Patrick Vahe committed. Wow.

The biggest miss, however, is not listed; Jamal Adams in the 2014 class. Somebody hold me.

LSU has pricked blood from Texas, but Strong and staff has done well to mitigate losses, namely keeping Erick Fowler home. At one point I said I’d take Anderson over Collin Johnson. LOL. In my defense it was a 1A/1B thing and Anderson didn’t play his senior year, so who knows, but yeah.

2017 concerns: DT Marvin Wilson, LB Levi Jones, OT Austin Deculus, RB Toneil Carter, S Jeffrey Okudah, S Grant Delpit, LB K’Lavon Chaisson

Most concerned about: Delpit and Chaisson. Most would say Wilson but I think Miles is on his Fat Tuesday float out of town and I could see Delpit and Chaisson ending up there despite any upheaval. Deculus is also looking good for LSU but that doesn’t hurt Texas. Like Ingram, he’s just not interested in the Longhorns.

Current status: Like Sumlin, Miles is sitting on a Nomex doughnut to keep the heat from the seat singeing his ass. That will be a huge variable going into National Signing Day. If he survives the season it means LSU will have done well, meaning it could potentially land 5-6 of the above.

FLORIDA (13)

Last two cycles: S Kylan Johnson, QB Kyle Trask, WR Tyrie Cleveland,

The fallout: Many of you are probably wondering who Johnson and Trask are. KJ was a late take from Skyline when the new UF staff was scrambling. He’s a big safety, and good athlete. Trask was the back-up quarterback last year at Manvel. He was needed insurance in the class and is a tall, pro-style passer. Obviously neither hurt Texas. Cleveland will probably be a boss in Gainesville but Texas never had eyes for him.

2017 concerns: Kary Vincent.

Most concerned about: Vincent definitely has bought into UF being DBU quality. Vernon Hargreaves is a favorite of many a young DB right now. That won’t be a determining factor for the Gators, but it gets Florida’s foot in the door.

Current status in Texas: UF is UF. It will always be an offer prospects are honored to receive. After making a credible run at some notable 2015 players like Jeffrey McCulloch, Dontavious Jackson, and Chris Brown, the Gators came up just short. They did however beat Texas head to head for Michigan linebacker David Reese.

OHIO STATE (8)

Last two cycles:None

The fallout: Ohio State had consecutive classes ranking 7th and 4th that featured zero Texans.

2017 concerns: RB JK Dobbins (committed to Ohio State), S Jeffrey Okudah

Most concerned about: I still believe Dobbins stays close to home. Okudah has stated Ohio State is his current #1 but I don’t think he ends up signing there. I believe he stays in Texas or the South.

Current status in Texas: Trade ‘in Texas’ with ‘everywhere’ as Ohio State holds commitments from kids from seven different states. Dobbins – huge Texas priority – is only the fourth highest rated player in the Buckeyes’ class. WTF.

Of its 13 commits, only one is rated below 90 (4-star) and it’s a kicker and we know they don’t really count. Urban Meyer is putting together an insane class. With coeds being Big 10 in “quality” he’ll likely make a lengthier run in Columbus than he did in Gainesville.

MICHIGAN (22)

Last two cycles:None.

The fallout:A sleepover or two, nothing more. Harbaugh has been pressing hard in Texas, and pretty much everywhere for that matter, but hasn’t hit pay-dirt yet. He thought he was golden with Jordan Elliott and had a good shot with Dontavious Jackson and Chris Brown last cycle, but it didn’t work out. His high-pressure sell isn’t likely to work with too many Texas kids.

2017 concerns: None.

Most concerned about: None.

Current status in Texas: I included Harbaugh because he’s a big name who is pressing hard within the state. He went 0-47 on Texas offers last cycle, yet still finished with a stellar class. His sell is working, just not in Texas.

NOTRE DAME (13)

Last two cycles: WR Jalen Guyton

The fallout: None. Guyton visited Texas but was never offered. I do wish Corey Robinson would have found his way into the 2014 class.

2017 concerns: S Robert Barnes, LB Baron Browning, CB Chevin Calloway, RB Toneil Carter, RB JK Dobbins, S Jeffrey Okudah. (TE Brock Wright and QB Avery Davis are already committed)

Most concerned about: Those are the names Notre Dame thinks it has the best chance for. At this point I'm not concerned about them landing any of those guys other than Chevin Calloway, but recruiting can shift pretty quickly.

Current status in Texas: Notre Dame will always be an ‘it’ school, rich in academic and on-field tradition. They’ve proven to be able to pull both star- and under-rated talent out of Texas for decades. 2017 has already netted more players than 2015 and 2016 combined, proving Notre Dame is always a threat to land top tier talent in-state. Recently its TE tradition has lured one-time Texas commit, Durham Smythe, and 2017 stud Brock Wright.

Obviously there are many other out-of-state schools that players will find attractive for differing reasons. Texas will lose an Obi Eboh or Solomon Thomas to Stanford every now and then. Some prospects find the bright lights and beaches of Southern California appealing. Florida State carries a big stick nationally as well. The glow from Eugene still permeates this far.

While many schools remain a threat, the main concerns for Texas will be Alabama and LSU for the foreseeable future.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Interesting, I think after Alabama and LSU, my biggest concern is Stanford. They have picked Texas pockets for a few great players. Not only that, but they seem to sink their teeth in and it's over. I'm worried most about S Jeffrey Okudah looking at them.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Sounds like Moses is in Austin today.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Interesting, I think after Alabama and LSU, my biggest concern is Stanford. They have picked Texas pockets for a few great players. Not only that, but they seem to sink their teeth in and it's over. I'm worried most about S Jeffrey Okudah looking at them.

Yeah, there's not much you can do when Stanford is winning a lot of games. Hell, I'd pick Stanford over Texas myself if I were in these recruits' position, and if I had a son with offers from both, I'd encourage him to do the same.

 

[oldhorn2]

So Moses releases his new top 5 and has Texas as number one....then he says on twitter that Texas is now his number 1.....Strong can recruit, no doubt.

 

[Longyac]

So Moses releases his new top 5 and has Texas as number one....then he says on twitter that Texas is now his number 1.....Strong can recruit, no doubt.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

As long as Texas is #1 in the first Wednesday of next February that is all that matters. I'm sure Moses is going to go back and forth on this over the next several months.

 

[Longyac]

As long as Texas is #1 in the first Wednesday of next February that is all that matters. I'm sure Moses is going to go back and forth on this over the next several months.

At this point it is pretty much Texas v Bama battle. Dylan's dad loves Coach Strong. Show good progress and I like Texas' chances. Plus Saban is now 65 .

 

[jsto60]

After every visit Dylan has named the place he went as his #1. I think Texas is legit in it with Bama/LSU. But I see him going to one of those. Still it is good that we are in with these elite kids, even when we are losing. Signs of good things to come.

 

[Longyac]

As a counter point Moses visited; Bama, LSU, and Texas this week over his Spring Break.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

If we get all our defensive targets, i think Texas should petition the NCAA to let us play 13 on defense just so we can get them all playing time. We could run the 4-4-5 defense.

 

[oldhorn2]

If we get all our defensive targets, i think Texas should petition the NCAA to let us play 13 on defense just so we can get them all playing time. We could run the 4-4-5 defense.

sounds to me like if we get all our targets, when you add them to the last 2 classes, we might only need 10 on defense.....just to be fair.

 

[Longyac]

Welcome to DBU Mr. Kobe Boyce.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/5500849/kobe-boyce

 

[Longyac]

 

[BringBackRoyal]

TFB's take:

Texas added their 5th member of the 2017 class this evening as Lake Dallas (TX) CB Kobe Boyce committed to the Longhorns. We’ve been high on Boyce for awhile and he’s seen his stock soar recently as schools like Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Baylor, and Mississippi State offer in the last week and Texas is his most recent offer as they offered Boyce yesterday during his Texas visit. Boyce told us early in the process that he would likely commit early if the right offer came.

In recent conversations with Boyce, the word that kept coming up when he talked about Texas was the word comfort. He feels at home in Austin and told us that he had a great time getting to know the Texas players and coaches on Saturday. He said a conversation with LB Malik Jefferson was one that stood out and how Jefferson said all the players at Texas are like one big brotherhood.

Boyce has a very nice combination of length and speed and that’s a main reason he’s seen so many more big offers roll in lately. The main thing Boyce need is some bulk, it’s not to notice that when you see him but that’s something he will gain over time. This is a really nice get for the Longhorns in an underrated CB in a year where there aren’t many top notch guys that the position.

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IT's take (before the offer):

How he fits at Texas: Boyce has some nice recovery speed and played a lot of press coverage last year at Lake Dallas, both of which bode well for his chances of making it at Texas. At about 6’0″ or so he’s got nice size but will need to bulk up closer to 190 or 200 without losing that recovery speed. His technique should help and he clearly knows how to hang with routes while isolated in coverage. Another nice feature to Boyce’s game is that he understands how to play run-force and how to defend screens, both of which are essential in the Big 12. If he gets heavier and stronger he could be a future left cornerback at Texas. – IB

Coach says: I heard he measured at 6’0, 163 at the Dallas regional and clocked 4.49 in the 40 and 4.12 in the shuttle. The athleticism and agility show up on tape and he also shows a knack for always finding the ball in the air and making a play on it, which I love seeing from a young defensive back. Shows a willingness to fight through blocks on screens and appears to be a willing tackler as well. After watching him for the third time or so I feel like I didn’t give him enough love in my initial eval and Arkansas recently popped on him. In time I wonder if Texas will do the same.

How this affects Texas: Boyce is visiting Arkansas right now. He’s smooth in his pedal and quick as he shadows receivers in their breaks. I’ve talked to some skills coaches who told me Boyce shut down the Cedar Hill duo of Carmon Buckley and Charleston Rambo in training. Very interesting. Texas has been talking to him with more frequency and an offer wouldn’t surprise me. – EN

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Taylor Hamm's take (pre-offer, of course; Boyce sucks now):

Lake Dallas, Texas cornerback Kobe Boyce is on the brink of becoming one of the most sought after prospects at his respective position in the Lone Star State. The 6-foot, 163-pounder is expecting his offer sheet to grow over the next few days as the three-star defender has two big unofficial visits on deck.

“Coach (Terry) Price, the d-line coach who recruits my area, hit me up last night and he was saying that I should be expecting some good news for me and my family when I get there for Friday Night Lights,” said Boyce. “I think he’s saying they’re going to offer but I don’t want to jinx it (laughing).”

He added about the potential offer, “If they did offer that would be huge because A&M is a school that’s I’ve always like, and I always watched them play, especially with (Johnny) Manziel was up there. I like the history up there so it’s just about visiting and seeing how it is up there.”

After he leaves College Station, the first-team all-district selection will head to Austin on Saturday to visit Texas. With the Aggies likely offering the day before, it should be safe to say that Boyce will likely leave the 40 acres with an offer in-hand, setting up a classic in-state battle.

“Both programs are elite so it will all boil down to the educational side and of course playing time,” he said. “Mainly, finding the best fit for me. Being able to visit both schools back-to-back, I should know if one if the right place for me.”

Boyce discusses his commitment timeline.

“I really want to wait until the summer and weight out all my options before making a decision because I know my recruiting isn’t over with yet,” he said. “I just want to see all my options even if I see a school that I feel is the best fit for me. My plan is to make my commitment during the summer but you never know.”

The fast-rising defender is ranked as the No. 74 cornerback in the country and No. 107 overall prospect in the state, according to 247Sports Composite.

Taylor Hamm

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Don't worry aggsy, there is a lot of time for Ham to find a reason to take back everything he wrote about Mr. Boyce.

 

[oldhorn2]

someone who can do it needs to post Charles F'n Strongs tweet about Boyce commiting....it is priceless.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

 

[Metcalf #2]

Lmao

 

[CoachEmUp64]

We are leading for Dylan Moses right now. Don't know how long that'll last and we will have a battle on our hands until NSD. But Charlie can recruit with the best of them!

 

[CoachEmUp64]

 

[CoachEmUp64]

Per TFB:
– Taquon Graham: Temple (TX) DE Taquon Graham visited Texas this weekend hoping to get a few things done. He really to know more about how the coaches plan to use him if he were to end up at Texas. He also wanted to spend some more time with the coaches, specifically DL coach Brick Haley. He got both of those things done.

Graham told me he was very happy to finally get to actually see how the coaches wanted to use him, which he did during Texas’ scrimmage instead of having them just tell them. They are recruiting Graham as a FOX. He also told me he loved getting to spend more time with Coach Haley.

Going into the visit Texas was battling TCU at the top for Graham, and he let me know that he feels Texas is his new leader after the visit. Another thing to keep an eye on is that Graham told me that he hopes to make a commitment sometime during the month of April but said it’s not 100% set just yet. Gaining an early commitment from Graham would be huge for Texas, and it looks like that could happen. – (Andrew)

– Grayson Reed: 2017 OT, Grayson Reed (Houston, TX) also made his way to Texas this weekend for a return visit. Reed recently released a top 12 but we get a strong sense that this is a battle between Texas A&M, Texas and Oklahoma.

I caught up with the father of Grayson Reed. He said that Texas really emphasized the opportunity that is in front of him at Texas in terms of playing early. They spent time with coach Strong and Strong went through the depth chart with the Grayson and is his family showing them where their needs are and how they match up with Grayson’s strengths.

Former Texas player, Cedric Reed was on campus the day of the visit as well. As you all know by now, Grayson and Cedric are cousins.

With recent visits to Texas A&M and Oklahoma, this Texas visit was critical for Texas and it sounds like the visit went well. Reed is likely to make a decision sometime in May or June. – (Super K)

– Kobe Boyce: As you all know, 2017 CB, Kobe Boyce (Lake Dallas, TX) committed to Texas yesterday. What you might have missed is that Boyce is expected to graduate early and be an early enrollee. – (Super K)

– BIG VISITOR ALERT | Deangelo Gibbs: I chatted briefly with 2017 DB Deangelo Gibbs (Loganville, GA), who let TFB know he plans on visiting Texas sometime this week. Gibbs said he wasn’t sure what day the visit would happen. Gibbs is spending the week in the Dallas area. – (Super K)

– Team Note | Offensive Line: Just wanted to pass along a general note on the offensive line. After speaking to some additional sources over the weekend it sounds like the first team offensive line looks fantastic. However, I’m told that the second unit is a pretty big step below the first. Essentially it sounds like Okafor, Imade and Delance will have a chance to come in and find themselves in the rotation as true freshmen. – (Super K)

 

[Scholz]

Quotes from CB Kobe Boyce of Lake Dallas after committing to UT (OrangeBloods):

"I just thought, why wait when it 's the school you've been dreaming to go to?," Boyce said. "I didn't think twice to wait at all. That's what I wanted to do."

"I talked to my family about it for sure. I talked to my coach. They support my decision. I prayed about it, thought today was a good day to do it," Boyce said.

"First, it's the flagship school of the state. I wanted to stay close to home. And I knew if I went to Texas, it would benefit me in the long run. I just feel at home there."

"I just like what Charlie Strong is doing up there. He's come through a lot, been through a lot in the past year. I like what they did with their recruiting class in 2016, the last three days before signing day with all the commits," Boyce said. "I don't know what's going on up there, but I know something good is going on and it would be good to be a part of it."

"What I do well, people say I'm a long, athletic corner, very physical," Boyce said. "I make good plays on the ball. I have good speed. What I want to improve on is my speed. I want to be the fastest one out there no matter what. I want to get stronger too, be able to jam anyone I want, work on my hips. I have good hips, but not perfect. I'm trying to improve my technique."


LB Dylan Moses discusses UT (24/7):

“It was just a great visit,” Moses said. “They said a lot and put a lot on my mind to think about. They really opened my eyes with what they had to say about the future of the program. That was really the reason that I named Texas my leader. They are for sure my No. 1.”

“It’s really the coaches,” Moses said. “I’ve known Coach Haley since he was at LSU, and I have a great relationship with him. I love Coach Strong and what he’s brought to the team. He has a great vision for the future, and he’s a great coach. I like that he’s a players coach. We had really good conversations during my visit.”

“I could see myself at Alabama and LSU,” Moses said. “I like the way they use their linebackers. I enjoyed my visits down there and liked what I saw at their practices. I loved my conversations with the coaches. They are both really high up there for me.”

“I just want to see them keep improving,” Moses said. “I think they have some talent at the linebacker position with Malik Jefferson and those guys. They just have to put it together. But I think they’ll get it done. Coach Strong is building a bright future.”


Quotes from OL Grayson Reed of Cypress Creek (24/7).

Rumors have him close to committing to A&M.

“To be honest, A&M caught up because Coach (Jim) Turner puts players in the league and he’s coached in the league,” Reed said. “He can coach me up, and coach me to that next level. The same thing at Oklahoma, Coach (Bill) Bedenbaugh can do that exact same thing.”

“I like the new addition of coach (Matt) Mattox,” Reed said. “He’s a great coach and I’d like to play for him.”

“Coach Strong is awesome,” Reed said. “He’s straightforward with you. He tells you how to do things and how he wants it done. I think he’s an awesome guy and a great coach."

“As far as the visit, I went there and just watched practice. It was a good practice. Their offense moves really fast now. It’s almost like the offense at my school. It’s awesome.”

 

[Scholz]

The Opening Houston Top Performers:

Though it was a relatively small group in numbers at Sunday’s The Opening Houston regional, it was still an impressive group. Eight invitations to The Opening Finals or Elite 11 Finals were handed out. Below we break down the event's top performers in the eyes of 247Sports.

Alpha Dog:

There were two five-stars in action on Sunday and both lived up to their billing but IMG Academy linebacker Dylan Moses barely edged Houston Episcopal defensive tackle Marvin Wilson for ‘Alpha Dog’ honors. The 6-foot-2 defender and nation’s No. 2 prospect is up to around 235 pounds or so but moved like a smaller linebacker. He took every rep he possibly could and won drills that linebackers aren’t supposed to win, such as lining up against running backs one-on-one and trying not to get juked. Moses has worked out at running back in camp settings in the past but the Baton Rouge native looked perfectly natural at linebacker on Sunday.

Next 5 on Defense:

1. DT Marvin Wilson – The five-star was unstoppable for most of the day, especially against the interior offensive linemen. Only one player really even gave him a fight and that was Top100 offensive tackle Austin Deculus during the ‘Final Five’ portion. Wilson is a huge presence in the middle but is also incredibly quick.

2. CB Elijah Molden – The 5-foot-10, 175-pound four-star defender made his way down to Texas from Oregon and took home the defensive back MVP honors. He will be going to the Opening Finals for the second year in a row. Though not the biggest cornerback, Molden was one of the most physical by far.

3. DE K’Lavon Chaisson – The four-star defender is a bit raw but his quickness off the line is unrivaled. Most of the offensive tackles did not even have time to get a drop stop before he was already by them in one-on-ones.

4. LB Kenneth Murray – A former safety, the Fort Bend Elkins linebacker was one of the top two at the position, along with Moses. Murray did a good job keeping up with the running backs in pass coverage and showed a nice ability to shed blocks.

5. DT Jordan Crawford – The defensive tackle from Pearland is a bit on the shorter side but he is a great pass-rushing interior lineman. Iowa State recently became the first to offer and some other schools should join in soon as well.

Top five on offense:

1. WR Brennan Eagles (2018) – The Alief Taylor receiver was incredibly impressive in the testing portion, coming in at 6-foot-3.5, 208 pounds and running an electronic 4.43 but he was also the most consistent pass-catcher all day. He made some highlight-reel grabs and used both speed and strength to get off of man coverage. He does not have any offers yet but that should change very, very soon.

2. WR Judah Bell – Bell was one of the more imposing receivers in a deep group at 6-foot-3, 184 pounds. He plays at a private school or else his offer list would likely be even longer than it is. He was the smoothest route-runner on the day and made some catches look easy. It’s a deep year in Texas for receivers but colleges need to take a look at Bell.

3. OT Walker Little – The Army All-American came in and backed up his ranking, taking home MVP honors of a loaded offensive line unit. He did not lose any one-on-one matchups all day and earned an invitation to The Opening Finals.

4. RB J.K. Dobbins – The four-star Ohio State commit put up solid numbers in testing, running an electronic 4.44 forty and posting a 38-inch vertical jump. On the field, he showed the ability to stop on a dime and was a matchup nightmare for opposing linebacker.

5. QB Xavier Martin – Though he is a little bit on the shorter side and currently listed as an ‘athlete,’ the Texas Tech commit was the most consistent passer on the day and showed that he could very well stay under center when he arrives in Lubbock.

More names of note on offense:

-It was hard to not make the top five on offense a list of only receivers. They were that impressive. Four-star Oklahoma commit CeeDee Lamb showed great hands and made a couple eye-opening catches. He had the camp’s coaches talking about him.

-Texas A&M four-star receiver commit Mannie Netherly also lived up to his billing. Though he dropped a couple he shouldn’t have, he started to look more and more comfortable throughout the day.

-Houston is home to two of the top 2018 tight ends in the country and both Malcolm Epps and Mustapha Muhammad had their moments. Muhammad was the more consistent of the two and is a big-time receiver threat as a tight end.

-It was a bit surprising that four-star offensive tackle Grayson Reed did not receive an invitation to The Opening Finals. He stonewalled a few guys in one-on-ones and showed excellent footwork.

-2018 four-star wide receiver Joshua Moore had his moments as did 2018 Manvel wide receiver Cam Scott.

-2017 four-star running back Toneil Carter, who earned an Opening Finals invitation, is a great combination of size and speed. No linebackers could do much against him in one-on-ones.

More names of note on defense:

-The defensive back group was not incredibly deep but Manvel four-star safety Derrick Tucker is huge and plays like a cornerback.

-George Ranch cornerback Adam Beck also had a solid day with several pass breakups, despite being a bigger corner.

-Keondre Coburn is only a sophomore but the four-star class of 2018 prospect is the next defensive lineman at Houston Westfield. He made the ‘Final Five’ on the defensive line and is a very good pass rusher from the interior.

-Terrel Bernard is a bit undersized for a linebacker but he’s big enough and is especially strong in pass coverage. He has Baylor and Houston as his top two.

-Four-star athlete Patrick Queen from Louisiana worked out at linebacker and took home MVP honors at the position. He could play either safety or linebacker at the next level.

-College Station cornerback Timarcus Davis had the highest SPARQ score and posted the best vertical jump out of any of the Opening regionals so far at 45.8 inches.

 

[Scholz]

How UT's top targets performed at The Opening: Houston:

The Horns247 staff was out at today's The Opening Houston regional and kept a close eye on a number of important Texas targets. Here are our thoughts on prospects with Texas offers that competed in the event.

QB Sam Ehlinger, Austin Westlake — It was tough to judge Ehlinger today. He got very few reps, and his receivers didn’t exactly run the best routes. If you asked me to give his performance a grade, I would say I for incomplete. Ehlinger made it to the pressure-cooker stage of the competition but only connected on two of his six attempts. After watching Ehlinger play last season, I can say that I’m a big fan. But he definitely looked better in pads than he did in shorts.

RB J.K. Dobbins, La Grange — Speed. Dobbins has plenty of it. The four-star Ohio State commit earned an invite to The Opening after running a 4.4 forty and blowing away the competition in individual drills. I (EJ) didn’t see Dobbins in 1-on-1’s because he was on another field, but I can say with confidence that he looked like the best back at the event during the drill portion. I also like what Dobbins brings to the table as a receiver. He runs great routes and can catch.

RB Toneil Carter, Langham Creek – Carter earned an invitation to The Opening finals in Oregon. The majority of work for the running backs came in receiving drills. During individual drills, Carter showed speed, agility and the ability to catch a deep pass. The 5-foot-11, 205 pounder can explode when he wants to and will cause headaches for linebackers who attempt to cover him on passing plays. Carter did take some plays off, though.

WR Mannie Netherly, Crosby – This east Houston product has everything a coach loves in a receiver. He’s over six feet tall, has speed, and can jump. When provided a solid pass, Netherly impressed outdueling the majority of defenders he faced. He can take a jam at the line and fires off well. Currently committed to Texas A&M, if the Longhorns can flip his commit, he could be a starter quickly. Netherly just has that raw talent.

TE Mustapha Muhammad, FB Ridge Point (2018) – One of the tallest players at The Opening, particularly in the skill positions, Muhammad stood out as he towered over many nearby. Muhammad has speed and can catch the ball well. However, he’s not the quickest guy and shifting will be difficult. Do not expect to see Muhammad cut much. He is best when running in a straight line.It was also tough to tell how well Muhammad blocks.

OL Walker Little, Houston Bellaire Episcopal — When I (EJ) watched Walker Little last season, I made the comment that he was the most impressive prospect on a field that was loaded with multiple FBS recruits. And I have basically the same opinion after seeing him today. I thought Dylan Moses was the alpha dog, but Little was right behind him. I love his size, the way he uses his hands, his length and just his overall technique. He’s going to be a stud at the next level.

OL Grayson Reed, Cy Creek — Reed doesn’t wow you right off the bat, but he’s a versatile grinder with the potential to play both guard and tackle at the next level. Reed looked good in 1-on-1’s, displayed excellent technique and used his hands well throughout the event. The four-star prospect wasn’t as dominant as Little, but he did have a nice day overall. If I (EJ) were in Matt Mattox’s shoes, I would pursue him hard as an interior offensive lineman.

OL Austin Deculus, Cy-Fair – Deculus earned an invitation to The Opening finals in Oregon. The 6-foot-6, 323 pounder is so big and strong, even Texas linebacker Jeffrey McCulloch took notice as he was leaving Delmar Stadium. Deculus does not have the best foot work in the world, but his pure strength is enough to ensure defensive lineman a struggle to make their way into any backfield he provides protection for.

DT Marvin Wilson, Houston Bellaire Episcopal — Wilson once again excelled in a camp setting as he earned an invitation to The Opening finals. Wilson used his sheer size and strength to overpower his competition in 1-on-1 drills. But Wilson looked leaner and quicker. At this event, Wilson didn't just rely on his massive frame. He also showed that he has improved his technique and is faster than most would think for a guy his size. There is a reason he's one of the nation's top recruits.

DE K’Lavon Chaisson, GP North Shore — Chaisson has an extremely thin frame and will need to add some muscle mass at the next level. But this dude can go. At 6-foot-3, 220 pounds, Chaisson is an elite level pass rusher that has the opportunity to be a monster at the next level. Chaisson has a great first step. Combine that with his elite speed, and he’s almost impossible for opposing tackles to block 1-on-1, especially in a camp setting. His motor is simply relentless.

OLB Dylan Moses, IMG Academy (Fla.) — The most dominant prospect at the camp, Moses was impressive in every facet of the event. Not only does he look the part of a five-star prospect, he performs like it. Moses did well in 7-on-7 drills but what really caught my (EJ) attention were his cover skills. Moses covered Mannie Netherly 1-on-1 and had no issue with his elite speed. Moses can keep up with the fastest of them thanks to his own speed and excellent hips. This dude is the real deal. And his opening invite was well deserved.

S Derrick Tucker, Manvel — Tucker shined when he lined up in his natural position in 7-on-7 drills. He’s an absolute ball hawk that reads the quarterback well and can break on the ball in a hurry. Tucker was at his best against his best as he was chosen to line up in the secondary against the quarterbacks chosen to compete for a spot in the Elite 11 finals. Tucker also did well in 1-on-1’s. While he doesn’t have corner hips, Tucker made up for it with his physicality and strength. There is no question that he’s one of the top safeties in the country.

ATH Jalen Preston, Manvel (2018) – Preston lined up at wide receiver at The Opening. The display was impressive. The 6-foot-2, 210 pounder has speed and quickness with a nice vertical leap. Preston, a member of the class of 2018, provided plenty of trouble for defensive backs who went up against him. If his opponents were able to keep up with him, Preston had the moves to outduel them in a jump ball situation. Preston also plays defensive back and is getting recruited by some schools on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Scholz]

Opening notes

via IT- nahlin
Let me empty the notebook. I still have a lot of guys to go back and look up and take a look at, but here are the guys I gathered information on today.

OT WALKER LITTLE, EPISCOPAL

Justin will have some quotes from the player but I talked to his parents for a good bit. Great, intelligent people, who have a solid grasp on the process. Walker will indeed be at the Texas spring game. He'll visit Ole Miss starting this Friday. In May the family will check out Stanford. He has a couple siblings at Ole Miss, hence the interest in Oxford (Laremy Tunsil doesn't hurt either). In talking to the family this one is obviously pretty wide open. I'll maintain Texas has as good of a chance as any. Interestingly Walker had a good relationship with Joe Wickline so he's still getting to know Matt Mattox.

This will be a recruitment that's handled the right way. I don't expect any drama aside from where he ultimately decides. I can see anything from Texas to OOS at this point.

OT STEPHAN ZABIE, WESTLAKE

You want to talk about raw clay this is your guy. Because of his great size - 6-foot-5, 290 (or so) - and athleticism there's some real upside here. The size is constructed very well too.

I first saw him at Texas camp last July. Little did I know he had yet to play a down of organized football. This would explain his three false starts versus Southlake Carroll in his first game. I thought he played his sophomore year but he did not.

He says he hears from Coach Mattox, and I believe Bedford, quite often. I asked him if Coach Ehlinger is in his ear. He laughed and said indeed Sam is on him pretty good. I can definitely see him earning an offer from UT.

Right now his top two are Texas A&M and Oklahoma. Both have offered. I get the feeling he's waiting on Texas.

If he does end up in the class it won't excite some but with the understanding of his tremendous growth curve and starter kit I'd be doing a little fist pump.

OT GRAYSON REED, CY CREEK

I'm picking A&M at this point but I still think the highly rated o-lineman ends up at Texas. Right now he's loving Aggie OL coach Jim Turner and I think that will push the Aggies over the top. For now.

Surprisingly Turner has told him he sees Reed as a guard. This according to an A&M writer I talked to today. I think he's a RT but he's hefty enough to hold up at guard.

Don't be surprised if this one doesn't break UT's way but don't go getting all hysterical if the Aggies win this one. February's a long way off.

Speaking of which. I spent a good chunk of time talking to a player committed elsewhere.

2013 was Christian Morgan.
2014 was Duke Catalon and Lo Joe.
2015 needs no introduction.
2016 I didn't have a favorite.
My 2017 is....

RB JK DOBBINS, LA GRANGE

How do you not love a kid who doesn't skip leg day? 405x10 on squats if you need him. He came in at 199 pounds and I had a handful of people talk about how well built he is. He also ran a 4.44. Remember those concerns about him losing a step as he stacked on weight? Unfounded. His shuttle sucked for him at 4.4 but he said he slipped. Anyway it's impossible to run 4.44 and not be quick.

He just returned from Ohio State late Saturday night. He spoke in terms of 'we' and 'our class' when talking about the Buckeyes. He said there was a real family atmosphere and the campus reminded him of Texas quite a bit.

Obviously UT isn't going quietly and he knows it. Strong has personally made him aware he'll be recruited until the end. After talking with JK at length I now feel like he could leave the state, but I still think it's going to be Texas when it's all said and done. Like Erick Fowler before him, it just makes too much sense. Also like Fowler, Strong is handling this one and JK says, "we talk all the time."

Ohio State has a lot going for it. I told him he can't be that good since he's only OSU's 4th highest rated recruit. He laughed and stated, "yeah, one of the guys above me is an offensive lineman."

He told me he had concerns about the Texas depth chart. He liked the sell from Ohio State that he could be Percy Harvin. Urban Meyer tells everyone that but he might be on to something here. Dobbins more views him as a smaller Zeke Elliott. He just wants his carries, it's not a 'he's afraid to compete!' situation.

Dobbins is going to try to make it to the spring game but he has to find out when his prom is. He said, "prom might be the 9th or the 16th." I said, "the 9th?! That's next week. You should know this by now." Finding a date probably won't be hard but how do you fit that dude in a tux?

The door is plenty cracked but there's work to be done.

JK added he thinks OSU is going to pull Jeffrey Okudah to which I replied, "I disagree but you already made me wrong once." For now.

LB KENNETH MURRAY, ELSIK

He's visited in the past and he's a fine player. The staff certainly likes him and the communication is pretty open. Murray showed up and predicted he'd run a 4.6 and he did. A buddy of mine who was coaching out there today was raving about him and his build.

If things go sideways with Baron Browning, Murray's a name to watch. He'd fit as a will at Texas.

SCUTTLE ON MARVIN WILSON

I caught up with someone in the football world who knows Marvin: "He told me he a while back he wants to stay close to home. I know people are talking about him going out of state but with his family situation I think he stays home. Might want to tell your guys at Texas."

This jibes with what I heard and wrote a while back. It's good to hear it from someone else. I'm prepared to say Texas is in this recruitment as much as everyone else and UT needs to play up the family angle.

Marvin smashed everyone he faced from what I saw. He's too quick and too powerful for high school players.

OL AUSTIN DECULUS, CY-FAIR

This is one big ass kid. He weighed in at 325 I think and he's all of it. Very broad shoulders. He'll be a guard in college.

He's very highly rated but unfortunately he told me flat out he wants to go OOS. He listed LSU, Bama, Georgia, Michigan. Smart money is on LSU.

Fun kid to talk to but nothing doing here.

RECRUITING TE

- Name to watch is Katy's Parker Eichenberger. He says he'll be at the spring game and then maybe again this summer. He attended junior day and he's in contact with Jeff Traylor. Look for Texas to cover its flank with Major Tennison (looking okay there), who also picked up a Georgia offer this week, but UT would also like to take two."

Seen him play a lot and know the family.
Parker would be a great get. I think he is underrated. He is a very good blocker, and while he did not catch a lot of passes, he was not thrown to a lot. Not a real knock on his ability as Katy had many weapons on offense. He caught most everything thrown his way. Great kid with a good head on his shoulders. Would be a great asset to the team. Hope he gets an offer.

 

[CoachEmUp64]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...l-recruiting-2017-charlie-strong-kevin-sumlin

Good article about the landscaping of recruiting in Texas right now.

 

[MiccoMacey]

Boyce is your fifth verbal, according to a different thread on OB. Is that a normal number for Coach Strong at this point in the year? Too low? Too high?

I know different coaches have different strategies in recruiting. Coach Brown seemed to want to have kids wrapped up a lot earlier than Coach Stoops used to (maybe that's just a perception issue, but I know it has been brought up on message boards before). I think Stoops has changed his strategies a little and seems to be trying to get in on kids earlier in the last year or two. So I've seen both philosophies work under different coaches.

Either or, I think Coach Strong has shown an ability to get the kids he wants. Just curious.

Gracias.

 

[Scholz]

Strong waits until the end generally speaking. Unless a kid really, really wants to shut it down, he wants them to take their visits and make sure. He also doesn't want to paint an X on the commits' backs and tell the other schools who to target. He also wants to wait and see who peaked early and who continues to develop. Way different than his predecessor and our fanbase is still trying to get used to it. He's closed well the past 2 classes though so I think the nervousness is wearing off of waiting until the end.

 

[Son of Wasatch]

Boyce is your fifth verbal, according to a different thread on OB. Is that a normal number for Coach Strong at this point in the year? Too low? Too high?

I know different coaches have different strategies in recruiting. Coach Brown seemed to want to have kids wrapped up a lot earlier than Coach Stoops used to (maybe that's just a perception issue, but I know it has been brought up on message boards before). I think Stoops has changed his strategies a little and seems to be trying to get in on kids earlier in the last year or two. So I've seen both philosophies work under different coaches.

Either or, I think Coach Strong has shown an ability to get the kids he wants. Just curious.

Gracias.

Honestly, this is the first year Strong is not battling from behind. He has now spent enough time in this state to know who is who and how to handle the process. However that wasn't the case with his last two classes. Those classes were all about pushing back their commitment far enough to let the affect of a bad season ware off.

I think he will continue to keep with his current strategy because it has worked extremely well. I'm pretty sure after the spring game we likely won't get but maybe one or two more verbals until after next season begins. I'm still looking at 10 to 14 verbals in January and February.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

Boyce is your fifth verbal, according to a different thread on OB. Is that a normal number for Coach Strong at this point in the year? Too low? Too high?

I know different coaches have different strategies in recruiting. Coach Brown seemed to want to have kids wrapped up a lot earlier than Coach Stoops used to (maybe that's just a perception issue, but I know it has been brought up on message boards before). I think Stoops has changed his strategies a little and seems to be trying to get in on kids earlier in the last year or two. So I've seen both philosophies work under different coaches.

Either or, I think Coach Strong has shown an ability to get the kids he wants. Just curious.

Gracias.

Like Scholz said, this is the way Strong does things. Total opposite of Mack Brown. We had seven total (public) commitments by early November of this past season -- that is, with fewer than 90 days to go until NSD -- and some posters on this board (and every other Longhorn board) were absolutely losing their sh*t.

Things were a lot more secure at that point than the general public knew, though. It looks like reckless madness to people who don't know what's going on, but Texas was already in terrific shape at that point with most of the guys Charlie & Co. would end up signing in February.