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This Just Got Real

I think there are different levels of hypocrisy. Here's an analogy for you. Who's more obnoxious, the Longhorn who leaves a game early or the holier than thou, we're the best fans in the universe aggy? Both are leaving the game early, one is clearly more hypocritical.

That's not hypocrisy from the Longhorn though because we don't preach that we are the best/loyal/rowdiest fanbase. We do preach how we do everything the right way, so getting caught up in some improprieties would make us hypocrites. The person makes something hypocritical not the action.
 
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It looks like we took the lessons from Bliss to heart --- at least this time we aren't blaming the dead guy. Yet.


yeah...but one report showed that the victims were going to face expulsion for failing to uphold conduct standards.
 
yeah...but one report showed that the victims were going to face expulsion for failing to uphold conduct standards.

I think that was BYU. I haven't seen that regarding Baylor. I remember reading that recently regarding BYU for sure.
 
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I think that was BYU. I haven't seen that regarding Baylor. I remember reading that recently regarding BYU for sure.

As a Mormon I can tell you that there have been a few cases regarding sexual assault at BYU. A lot of my Mormon brethren don't want to admit it but it happens there. This is a problem at all Universities in our country and unfortunately we are to. There is a serious issue about this at Stanford as in Harvard of the West Stanford.
 
We all know that Briles son is the oc at Baylor but dyk that his son in law is also on the coaching staff? If/when Briles steps down what will they decide to do?
 
This morning I'm watching CNN and they are going through the whole Donald Trump going after Hillary because of Bill's mistresses etc- and the CNN anchor says something to the effect of "As you all remember it was Ken Starr who was making a push for how President Clinton mistreated these women.... and now Ken Starr is embroiled in a scandal as the university president at Baylor...".

If you don't think there are still people in the main stream media that are still pissed off at him for what went down over Bill, you're wrong. They've disliked him for years and most had probably given up on there ever being a chance to exact some sort of revenge on him. Well Kenny, if you lie down with dogs, don't act surprised when the flees bite.

My question is, with regard to the Waco PD, IF DOJ comes in and can prove any sort of collusion between the cops and Starr's office, does DOJ not just go after the Waco cops, but also Starr?

And as I've mentioned before on this thread there was the case of the coed, who was raped and not by a fb player, an honors student, who reported what happened to her to the police. And then she took her case to Starr himself. And to make a long story short, KS did nothing.
 
We all know that Briles son is the oc at Baylor but dyk that his son in law is also on the coaching staff? If/when Briles steps down what will they decide to do?

I would guess that if Briles the staff is out as well. That's typically the case when a new HC comes in regardless, unless you the new HC is promoted from within. I don't see Baylor doing that.
 
As a Mormon I can tell you that there have been a few cases regarding sexual assault at BYU. A lot of my Mormon brethren don't want to admit it but it happens there. This is a problem at all Universities in our country and unfortunately we are to. There is a serious issue about this at Stanford as in Harvard of the West Stanford.
Yes but, correct me if I'm wrong, at BYU even if two students engage in consensual sex, that is an expulsion worth er transgression, is it not?
 
I'd give the good folks of Waco 24 hours notice to evacuate and then neutron bomb the place....that way, the shiny new stadium will still be standing
 
Interesting. I don't doubt that Baylor has moral conduct clauses, pretty much all schools do, and religious ones will often kick it up a notch. I just haven't heard any reports threatening punishment on the victims, I would think that would be the biggest headline in this entire mess.
 
Yes but, correct me if I'm wrong, at BYU even if two students engage in consensual sex, that is an expulsion worth er transgression, is it not?

Even at a Christian school there should be no sex. That is grounds for being expelled. So with all this rape going on campus it should be cause for getting kicked out. BUT they are football players can't lose them. I go to a very Christian University and there was a girl that played a sport at my school and she was bi you can say and had a relationship with another girl affiliated with the school and both got kicked out and fired. My school at least has morals and they broke the rules. Now baylor on the other hand...shouldn't be affiliated with being a Christian University. A bunch of hypocrite Christian devil worshipers I say. If I went to far sorry.
 
Yes but, correct me if I'm wrong, at BYU even if two students engage in consensual sex, that is an expulsion worth er transgression, is it not?

Yes, but believe me when I tell you that it is selective enforcement ie.... people with money, influence..... What I'm talking about is sexual harassment, even sexual assault.
 
I know at Baylor students are required to attend Chapel at least two semesters and from what I've been told they do enforce it. It's rated as one of the ten most religious schools every year. Most students and that includes athletes did attend church regularly before they went there. Probably most of the students probably still attend church regularly. But some men who go there are ***holes, who commit crimes against women. They may be few in numbers but they do untold damage to their schools reputation. And can you blame a Baylor coed if she doesn't want to be anywhere near a fb player?
 
Does nobody not pay attention to me damn....my school you have to attend chapel till your junior year. There are so many hours you have to attend each semester and if not met you have to write tons of papers for every hour you missed. You are only exempt from Chapel if you are over the age of 25. That is how my school does it.
 
I am less concerned with what happens a Baylor than I am with what happens at the Waco Police dept. If the feds come in to investigate this as a coverup or complicit action by the waco PD, someone is going to jail. This is the type thing the Feds like to jump on for the glory.
Letting a few rapes go is pretty small stuff for the Waco PD. They killed several bikers in an undercover operation gone terribly wrong.
 
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Briles is a sorry sumbitch. At least Stoops tries to rehab players that have run afoul of the law, Briles just sits back nodding and grinning it seems. God bless Saint Stoops.
 
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I'm 99% certain that they won't. The national media is going to destroy Ken Starr. Baylor has handled this terribly. And after the pr disaster from this scandal they can't risk any more.

Apparently Starr does not plan to go quietly. He came to the BOR meeting lawyered up, threatened to sue for wrongful termination, has even hired a PR firm, and is publicly pressuring the BOR to release the Pepper-Hamilton report).

He has a tenured position in the law school; I thought Baylor would probably sweeten his deal over there, but if he plans not to leave the president's office without a fight, then I can't see that happening.
 
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Apparently Starr doesn't appreciate being the sacrificial lamb. Guy's about to get PAID.
 
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I don't understand how he thinks he would win a wrongful termination suit if what's been reported is true.
 
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Briles is a sorry sumbitch. At least Stoops tries to rehab players that have run afoul of the law, Briles just sits back nodding and grinning it seems. God bless Saint Stoops.


you made me laugh. I put a like on everything that makes me laugh.
 
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They're trying to dishonestly lay this at the feet of Starr and keep Briles and Starr's not having it apparently. Chip said on his radio show that they are releasing the entire report, and from what he is hearing it blisters Art Briles.



 
Going to be lots o drinking in Baptist town tonight. Crying in beer kind of drinking.
 
Christmas in May :) I hope that d'bag never coaches again. We dodged a bullet by not going with that prick.
 
BU hired an independent investigator. BU performed a thorough investigation. BU gathered all the facts. And BU fired the President and Coach. It looks like all those that questioned the integrity of the University, and that it "sold its soul for wins" were wrong. This report must be not just bad, not just real bad, but criminal. They have to release the report.
 
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