I am disappointed that UT and A&M made him choose his religion or sports. I doubt he is the first or last Morman that has happened to.
Well when we fire coaches for winning 8 games instead of 10 games that might explain why they make those decisions. If indeed that happens. We as fans, media, boosters etc are mostly to blame for stuff like that.I am disappointed that UT and A&M made him choose his religion or sports. I doubt he is the first or last Morman that has happened to.
Well, you seem to be extrapolating your sample size of 1 to a university policy. Again, just because it didn't work out for your buddy doesn't mean that UT is anti-religion.I am not misguided.
Let me first say I have no problem with Christians and actually have toured a Morman temple. It's a bit different let me tell ya. With that said I don't see the problem here. We are talking about an athletic conference no one is saying you have to go to Morman mass or whatever they call it. As far as "sharing money with the Mormon church". When you see the check you'll get over it.
I'd also tell baylor and TCU both look the lack of a championship game has screwed you 2 years in a row we can add BYU or we can stay at 10. Texas, OU and probably OSU can make it without the game. You probably can't. Let's not make this about religion because it has nothing to do with anything.
Now if not BYU there are some other teams
Cincinnati, Boise state, maybe someone like Utah state. A lot of "mid major" type programs that want and could play at the higher level.
That's incorrect. Being neutral on religion is not the opposite of being religious.UT is not a religious school. In fact, UT is quite the opposite.
Maybe, maybe not. There are no competing other religions in the conference currently among member schools so you really can't say.I haven't read that Baylor or TCU object to the dififfetence in religious standards among the current Big 12 schools. I have no reason to hypothesize they would start now.
And the big 12 has only themselves to blame for that. There was a path to expanding the conference, and the paycheck. The big 12 chose not to get on that train, and lost out. So if they want to expand they'll just have to take the best markets they can and there will be more money both in TV and the title game. Is it going to be the massive paycheck they could of got? No but it will be more. This moaning about not wanting to share money with him because whatever should stop.BYU, Cincy, and any other "second 5 conference" will not significantly raise the per school payout. It would either stay the same or drop. That's one reason why there are member institutions in the Big 12 that are ok with staying at 10. Another reason is OU made the playoffs. A one loss conference champion made it. The difference between this year and last year is OU's strength of schedule was much better than Baylor and TCU and the Big 12 was stupid in not naming Baylor the champion instead of that stupid co champs thing.
Prove you wrong about what? That UT is not anti-religion? You can't prove a negative. You made an assertion that UT makes players choose between religion and sports and used a single example to try and back that up. You made the assertion. You back it up.Prove me wrong. I am open to it. So far, my facts are all we have to work with.
Ok so your unofficial, informal survey that may or may not have even included UT and which doesn't refer to religion is a source backing up your claim that UT is anti-religious. Gotcha.http://www.americangap.org/fav-colleges.php Here is a source. It refers to the time off as gap years, not specific to religion. UT and A&M aren't on the list. The value of the list is to notice that , as of 2013-2014, some universites honored the admission and scholarship. Others do not.
Or it is a faulty assumption that your buddy got passed over because of his religion simply because there was another dude who could play right away.It is anti-Mormon to not honor a players scholarship while they are on mission.
I don't like UT being painted as anti-religious completely falsely. Don't lie about my university. I also am very tired of religious fanatics claiming imaginary persecutions at every turn. The laughable, annual, supposed "War on Christmas" comes to mind. And lastly because religion isn't allowed to be stuffed down everyone else's throat doesn't mean those others are anti-religious. Sheesh.Scholz, why are you so defensive? It's a conversation. I can see you are emotional. We should stop here. You have a position and so do I. Neither of us will convince the other to budge. Good night and God Bless you Scholz!
I'm sure many of you are aware, Mormans are required to go on a mission, while in college. This causes Mormans to miss 1 year of school and sports. BYU is the only university that honors all Mormon scholarships, even while they are on mission. My high school buddy had offers from UT and A&M for football and track. But, they would not give him a full-ride if he honored his religion and went on mission. So, he honored his religion and went to BYU. I am proud of him for sticking to his beliefs. I am also disappointed in schools like UT and A&M that force you to choose sports or continuing your religious practice.
Interesting you chose that quote from the gospel of John that the anti-religion UT has carved on the side of its famous tower."The truth will set you free."
"Why would anyone give an F about their religious objections ..." I assumed the "F" as indicator of an anti -Christian viewpoint. Maybe I'm wrong. Regardless, you raise a valid point on me - Jesus questioned how I can see the speck in my neighbor's eye when there is a log in my own eye.That's a bit strong isn't it? Seems to me he was anti-religious bigotry against Mormonism in the context of a football conference. If you equate that with being anti-Christian, then that might be telling.
BTW, I think Cal objected to Baylor's inclusion in a potential merger with the PAC a few years back. Same kind of religious bigotry.
There's nothing that could have been done four years ago that would have made any meaningful difference in the conference's long-term viability.
Congrats on your win. Just shows what a good coach Briles is to put that good of an offense together in short order with a lack of a passing game. To quote an old coach Bum Phillips, "He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n".Enough of this speculation. Its time to celebrate a Baylor Bowl win! Who needs Seth Russell!
Another viewpoint is that he didn't want religious objections keeping us from improving the conference. I would submit that not wanting religion imposed on you is not the same thing as being against that religion. People just want others to keep it to themselves."Why would anyone give an F about their religious objections ..." I assumed the "F" as indicator of an anti -Christian viewpoint. Maybe I'm wrong.
Uh oh. Somebody better call the Waaaaaambulance.BYU...
2. They are as arrogant and controlling as UT. I don't believe the rest of the conferance could stomach two of you. Now that is the truth!