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Tom Herman Thread
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He is giving you a hard time because you pretty much are a lurker
This will be my last comment... I'm not going to get dragged into some trivial argument about how to post text on a casual sports bulletin board. I have been alive and a fan for much longer than I care to admit... so peace to you and all my Longhorn friends...
...and yes I'm a lurker and proud of it... LOL...
Haha you replied back to your own message that had nothing to do with the lurker comment
Nah don't run man. My bad sometimes we get trolls and I'm programmed all messed up. Welcome to post anytime obviously you don't need my permission. I remember when I used to lurk back in the day.
No Prob... it's all in good Fun... I'm one of the few born and raised Austinites from the old 04... and Bleed Orange even though My Mom was and Ag... LOL...
Would you recommend they do that before or after they're hired? How would that go down:
AD: We would like to offer you HC position at UH.
Herman: I accept. Thank you for giving me this opportunity.
AD: No, thank you and welcome to Cougar Nation.
Herman: Glad to be here. By the way, this is a stepping stone job in a mid-major conference. I'm going to do the very best I can to win games and bring in quality recruits. However, I'm leaving the shithole the first time I get the chance. I'm better than this place and want to be the head coach at a premiere program in a Power 5 conference.
AD: I understand and thanks for being so upfront and honest about your intentions.
I think Ryan pictures this actually going down just like this.
LOL... obviously I'm a novice poster...
I was sent this earlier this morning from a coworker.
There’s going to be a little bit of everything in this week’s War Room, but let’s start things off with a story that we’ve heard from three different sources this week about Tom Herman’s first meeting with his Texas players on Sunday afternoon.
It’s possible this will be a story that is truly remembered as the start of the Tom Herman era
As Herman walked down the center aisle of the team’s meeting room and took the podium, he announced to the entire team, "Sit the **** up.”
There was silence.
“I want your feet on the floor, shoulders back and your eyes on me," he said according to a source with knowledge of the meeting.
According to our sourcing, roughly 75-80 percent of the team followed orders.
Herman then reportedly repeated himself in a louder voice, “I said feet on the floor, shoulders back and eyes on me."
All but one player in the room, a true freshman, followed orders.
Herman then reportedly singled that player out in front of the entire room and said, "Son… what is your name?"
From what we were told, the entire team had its collective eyes opened from the very moment Herman started speaking that there’s a new sheriff on the 40 Acres and if you don’t follow his orders, there’s no hiding from him.
There’s going to be a little bit of everything in this week’s War Room, but let’s start things off with a story that we’ve heard from three different sources this week about Tom Herman’s first meeting with his Texas players on Sunday afternoon.
It’s possible this will be a story that is truly remembered as the start of the Tom Herman era
As Herman walked down the center aisle of the team’s meeting room and took the podium, he announced to the entire team, "Sit the **** up.”
There was silence.
“I want your feet on the floor, shoulders back and your eyes on me," he said according to a source with knowledge of the meeting.
According to our sourcing, roughly 75-80 percent of the team followed orders.
Herman then reportedly repeated himself in a louder voice, “I said feet on the floor, shoulders back and eyes on me."
All but one player in the room, a true freshman, followed orders.
Herman then reportedly singled that player out in front of the entire room and said, "Son… what is your name?"
From what we were told, the entire team had its collective eyes opened from the very moment Herman started speaking that there’s a new sheriff on the 40 Acres and if you don’t follow his orders, there’s no hiding from him.
Most folks still think of "Mac" as Macovich. Did I spell his full surname correctly?
If it's true this brings a smile to my face. I'm sure someone will think it's too much and we'll see the word "transfer" come up.
Who cares, that's how it should be. Toughen up or get out. Play with 'em or without 'em, we're still going to play!
Post more not less. Need more Longhorns fans on here talking about the greatest team on Earth.
The pride and winning tradition of The University of Texas will not be entrusted to the weak or the timid
Thank you for the kind invite... I agree... we're just havin fun... we got it all worked out... I should have been more specific... I just meant that I wasn't going to continue to comment or argue about my acronym for Mack... LOL. While I lurk... LOL... I typically don't like to read the extended trivial arguments that deviate from the original subject matter... again... I appreciate the banter and I'll try not to just lurk... and correspond more often. Thank you guys...
Hey Drew, it's okay if you go back to lurking.
I take it back, post more
I have to admit, this post just gave me wood. This is exactly what this team need to put them over the top.
Hey Drew, it's okay if you go back to lurking.
I take it back, post more
I have to admit, this post just gave me wood. This is exactly what this team need to put them over the top.
LMAO
I think Herman intended to stay in Houston if Houston had been invited to join the Big 12. I also think that many in Houston were expecting Houston to get the invitation to join the Big 12. For that reason, I do not believe Herman lied.
based on everything I've read.. it's a pissed-off UH booster saying this stuff about Herman, have yet to read that any of his players have been trashing him.
Since some folks in another thread had a hard time believing that Texas's facilities aren't anywhere close to the standard in college football anymore, here's a fairly in-depth take from OB's War Room:
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Texas athletic director Mike Perrin said he would give recently hired coach Tom Herman the support he needs when it comes to nutrition,sports science and academics during a press conference on Monday.
The support Herman may really need from Perrin in the future is working together to update an outdated football facility in much need of a face-lift.
We spent this week making several inquiries about the facilities at Texas, and when it came to the football department, everyone we spoke to believes the Longhorns are operating at a disadvantage when compared to other programs across the country.
“Middle of the road,” a source said. “It’s a little bit above average, but it’s not in competition with the major programs across the country. It’s not in competition with the Alabamas, LSUs, Florida States, Clemsons, or Oregon. Not on par with any of those groups right now.”
When Texas hired former football Charlie Strong, Steve Patterson was the athletic director. As most Texas fans know, Patterson quickly developed a reputation for not spending money. When Strong spoke to Patterson about giving the football facility an uplift, the thought of making changes was very low on the former athletic director’s list.
As a result, Strong was forced to adjust and try to improve the facility on what was seemingly a Groupon budget.
Strong was able to get new paint and carpet approved. In addition, Strong actually ordered Fathead wall decals to hang in meeting rooms throughout the facility. Yes, the Fatheads that are in the rooms of teenagers and man-caves were supposed to impress recruits who visited UT.
“For all the money they say they have, you should always be top of the line and we weren’t,” a source said.
Prior to this season, helmets of former Texas players were encased and hung on the hallway walls in the facility. It was a nice upgrade, but it still does not compare to other universities.
“We got the wall with the helmets and stuff like that,” a source said. “Most places now have the interactive screen where you can hit an NFL team and it will show you everybody that played there.
“The point is you look at the football facility, we’re in little bit of a pickle. Ours look too much like a museum. It’s good to think of all your award winners. I like that, but the way they did it was too much like a museum and not enough about ‘this is what Texas football is’. It was more about just honoring those guys.”
What about the locker room?
“Most locker rooms now have a little bit more space,” a source said. “Instead of having pictures, like Oregon, they have an actual TV screens on their lockers now. They don’t have an actual picture. It’s a TV screen, and our lockers look like a locker at a Golds Gym, not your typical wooden locker. Texas A&M has that. If you Google their facility, look it up. That’s your in-state competition. It’s not close to their facility.”
There are subtle things, too.
A former staff member said they had to pull down screens in meeting rooms and use an old-school ceiling projector. The person also said DKR’s in-stadium acoustics did not compare to other schools, like Baylor, and believed it was hard to create an atmosphere of rowdy fans opposing teams had to deal with.
When I asked that staff member how they were able to overcome those obstacles during recruiting, I was told, “Charlie has always been a traditional guy. He’s always believed in the process, and what happens in the building is more important that what you look for. Tom will probably try to change some things because Ohio State is pretty nice, also.”
After talking to a couple of people familiar with UT construction projects, there’s a feeling that since Jim Baker left to become UT-Arlington’s Athletics Director, there hasn’t been a clear vision as it relates to Texas’ facilities, and a large hole resides in that area in the athletic department.
Baker, who left in 2012, supervised construction projects in Texas Athletics from 1997 until his departure.
“He has managed all of our construction projects, been very involved in all of our sports programs, and has had a hand in every major decision we have made in the past five years,” said DeLoss Dodds at the time of Baker’s announced move to UTA to become its AD.
Baker’s integral role in facilities wasn’t directly replaced. Before he moved into retirement, Dodds passed the role to Ed Goble – he worked closely with Dodds in the business and financial sides prior to the change in title; basically, a CFO-type or business manager - and then hired a CFO. Goble remains listed on the staff directory, but isn’t involved anymore. The role and responsibilities seemingly have been passed along, and added to the already long list of tasks for others without one specific person being appointed to, and executing the position like Baker did for so long.
Patterson actually toured facilities like Arkansas to get an idea for what was top-of-the-line for this era of athletics, and had more research stops scheduled in order to gather information and come up with a plan of how to upgrade Texas’ facilities. However, when he was let go, no one picked up where he left off, and that includes Mike Perrin. A “master plan” was released in May, but that has done little to answer questions outside of those related to the South end zone work.
Whoever is named as the new athletic director eventually needs to hire someone with extensive facilities knowledge, and someone who will be able to allocate the necessary time to that role.
In talking with a high-level Texas source this week about the facilities, I was told that a facilities agenda probably won’t be addressed at all until a new athletic director is hired, which is expected to be sometime in the spring of 2017.
The same high-level source indicated that Herman has not yet made any internal requests for improving the facilities during his first week on the job.
When that moment occurs, he’ll likely need to purchase some patience because once the new athletic director is named this spring, our sourcing indicated that the very first piece of business that will need to be addressed on the facilities front is the new basketball arena. Given the money that the school has been forced to set on fire in the name of multiple head coaching changes, it’ll be fascinating to see just how much spending the Board of Regents will approve in the immediate future on upgrading facilities when it’s not yet a major point of discussion within the athletic department.
(Richardson/GK/McComas)
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As we've gathered notes this week regarding the program’s football facilities, here are some personal thoughts on how the Texas indoor facility (the bubble) and weight room stack up against some of the other big schools in the country. Overall, I've visited between 25-30 different programs across the country in the last few years for NFL Pro Day prospect evaluation, and the workouts almost always take place in the school's weight room and indoor facility.
The Texas “Bubble” is an eyesore, and based on looks alone, appears to even be structurally unsound. It has patches of mold where condensation forms inside the ventilation openings and it smells like a sweaty rag. Compared to the indoor facility at Florida State, it is an atrocious failure. Alabama has a football complex with no less than four enclosed fields and two stories of weight room affixed to the adjacent indoor facility, which doesn't belong in the same sentence as the “Bubble”.
LSU's weight room adjoins to its indoor facility. The weight-room was previously somewhat undersized, but a 5,000 square-foot mezzanine addition has added lots of space and presumably provides nice views of the entrance to the LSU Football Operations Center to one side and the indoor practice area to the other. Louisville's shabby indoor facility is even better than Texas', but not by much. Maybe it's why Strong was never concerned with pushing program stakeholders to improve in this aspect.
Auburn's indoor facility is significantly better than Texas A&M's McFerrin Center, which is better than the “Bubble”, but has little room for scouts and media. Also, like the “Bubble”, the McFerrin Center doesn't seem to be attached to the locker-room and main football buildings. Ole Miss has a fast-casual, on-campus restaurant with a wall of windows overlooking its indoor facility as part of the Manning Center and even more construction is ongoing; The Woody Hayes Center at Ohio State has recently undergone a multi-million dollar renovation and UCLA has a live-camera feed of construction surrounding its new football center, which boasts unbelievable architect renderings. TCU's indoor facility is probably nicer than Texas', but does, admittedly, have the same issue of limited space and little room for observers.
The Texas weight room is average. The big upgrade a year or so ago was new flooring, but it was not a complete makeover. Texas Football tweeted out a pic of the "state of the art" flooring going in, which has little curb appeal but is probably important. UT tweeted out videos showing the flooring was made of revolutionary low-impact material. While Texas' weight room does not resemble a beautiful, functional work of art like that of Oregon; or even an above-average 'Bama, it is probably on par with the Auburns and Texas A&M's of the world and not an embarrassment in the same way the “Bubble” is.
The Texas Locker Room has all the charm of a 2010 Chevy Suburban with wood-grain interior and cloth seats. You're sure it must have cost a pretty penny off the lot. But a few trans-U.S. road trips with sticky-fingered toddlers over five years has it showing its wear and appearing dated. That's actually an appropriate way to describe most of the Moncrief football facility, including the player's lounge. Other features within Moncrief, such as the (creatively named) "Multipurpose Room", where many media events take place, looks like an oversized janitor's closet. In places such as Auburn, the media is provided private workspaces with landline internet that allows photographers and camera crews to upload large files to their news outlet's servers remotely.
(Dunlap)
_______________________
Texas athletic director Mike Perrin said he would give recently hired coach Tom Herman the support he needs when it comes to nutrition,sports science and academics during a press conference on Monday.
The support Herman may really need from Perrin in the future is working together to update an outdated football facility in much need of a face-lift.
We spent this week making several inquiries about the facilities at Texas, and when it came to the football department, everyone we spoke to believes the Longhorns are operating at a disadvantage when compared to other programs across the country.
“Middle of the road,” a source said. “It’s a little bit above average, but it’s not in competition with the major programs across the country. It’s not in competition with the Alabamas, LSUs, Florida States, Clemsons, or Oregon. Not on par with any of those groups right now.”
When Texas hired former football Charlie Strong, Steve Patterson was the athletic director. As most Texas fans know, Patterson quickly developed a reputation for not spending money. When Strong spoke to Patterson about giving the football facility an uplift, the thought of making changes was very low on the former athletic director’s list.
As a result, Strong was forced to adjust and try to improve the facility on what was seemingly a Groupon budget.
Strong was able to get new paint and carpet approved. In addition, Strong actually ordered Fathead wall decals to hang in meeting rooms throughout the facility. Yes, the Fatheads that are in the rooms of teenagers and man-caves were supposed to impress recruits who visited UT.
“For all the money they say they have, you should always be top of the line and we weren’t,” a source said.
Prior to this season, helmets of former Texas players were encased and hung on the hallway walls in the facility. It was a nice upgrade, but it still does not compare to other universities.
“We got the wall with the helmets and stuff like that,” a source said. “Most places now have the interactive screen where you can hit an NFL team and it will show you everybody that played there.
“The point is you look at the football facility, we’re in little bit of a pickle. Ours look too much like a museum. It’s good to think of all your award winners. I like that, but the way they did it was too much like a museum and not enough about ‘this is what Texas football is’. It was more about just honoring those guys.”
What about the locker room?
“Most locker rooms now have a little bit more space,” a source said. “Instead of having pictures, like Oregon, they have an actual TV screens on their lockers now. They don’t have an actual picture. It’s a TV screen, and our lockers look like a locker at a Golds Gym, not your typical wooden locker. Texas A&M has that. If you Google their facility, look it up. That’s your in-state competition. It’s not close to their facility.”
There are subtle things, too.
A former staff member said they had to pull down screens in meeting rooms and use an old-school ceiling projector. The person also said DKR’s in-stadium acoustics did not compare to other schools, like Baylor, and believed it was hard to create an atmosphere of rowdy fans opposing teams had to deal with.
When I asked that staff member how they were able to overcome those obstacles during recruiting, I was told, “Charlie has always been a traditional guy. He’s always believed in the process, and what happens in the building is more important that what you look for. Tom will probably try to change some things because Ohio State is pretty nice, also.”
After talking to a couple of people familiar with UT construction projects, there’s a feeling that since Jim Baker left to become UT-Arlington’s Athletics Director, there hasn’t been a clear vision as it relates to Texas’ facilities, and a large hole resides in that area in the athletic department.
Baker, who left in 2012, supervised construction projects in Texas Athletics from 1997 until his departure.
“He has managed all of our construction projects, been very involved in all of our sports programs, and has had a hand in every major decision we have made in the past five years,” said DeLoss Dodds at the time of Baker’s announced move to UTA to become its AD.
Baker’s integral role in facilities wasn’t directly replaced. Before he moved into retirement, Dodds passed the role to Ed Goble – he worked closely with Dodds in the business and financial sides prior to the change in title; basically, a CFO-type or business manager - and then hired a CFO. Goble remains listed on the staff directory, but isn’t involved anymore. The role and responsibilities seemingly have been passed along, and added to the already long list of tasks for others without one specific person being appointed to, and executing the position like Baker did for so long.
Patterson actually toured facilities like Arkansas to get an idea for what was top-of-the-line for this era of athletics, and had more research stops scheduled in order to gather information and come up with a plan of how to upgrade Texas’ facilities. However, when he was let go, no one picked up where he left off, and that includes Mike Perrin. A “master plan” was released in May, but that has done little to answer questions outside of those related to the South end zone work.
Whoever is named as the new athletic director eventually needs to hire someone with extensive facilities knowledge, and someone who will be able to allocate the necessary time to that role.
In talking with a high-level Texas source this week about the facilities, I was told that a facilities agenda probably won’t be addressed at all until a new athletic director is hired, which is expected to be sometime in the spring of 2017.
The same high-level source indicated that Herman has not yet made any internal requests for improving the facilities during his first week on the job.
When that moment occurs, he’ll likely need to purchase some patience because once the new athletic director is named this spring, our sourcing indicated that the very first piece of business that will need to be addressed on the facilities front is the new basketball arena. Given the money that the school has been forced to set on fire in the name of multiple head coaching changes, it’ll be fascinating to see just how much spending the Board of Regents will approve in the immediate future on upgrading facilities when it’s not yet a major point of discussion within the athletic department.
(Richardson/GK/McComas)
*****
As we've gathered notes this week regarding the program’s football facilities, here are some personal thoughts on how the Texas indoor facility (the bubble) and weight room stack up against some of the other big schools in the country. Overall, I've visited between 25-30 different programs across the country in the last few years for NFL Pro Day prospect evaluation, and the workouts almost always take place in the school's weight room and indoor facility.
The Texas “Bubble” is an eyesore, and based on looks alone, appears to even be structurally unsound. It has patches of mold where condensation forms inside the ventilation openings and it smells like a sweaty rag. Compared to the indoor facility at Florida State, it is an atrocious failure. Alabama has a football complex with no less than four enclosed fields and two stories of weight room affixed to the adjacent indoor facility, which doesn't belong in the same sentence as the “Bubble”.
LSU's weight room adjoins to its indoor facility. The weight-room was previously somewhat undersized, but a 5,000 square-foot mezzanine addition has added lots of space and presumably provides nice views of the entrance to the LSU Football Operations Center to one side and the indoor practice area to the other. Louisville's shabby indoor facility is even better than Texas', but not by much. Maybe it's why Strong was never concerned with pushing program stakeholders to improve in this aspect.
Auburn's indoor facility is significantly better than Texas A&M's McFerrin Center, which is better than the “Bubble”, but has little room for scouts and media. Also, like the “Bubble”, the McFerrin Center doesn't seem to be attached to the locker-room and main football buildings. Ole Miss has a fast-casual, on-campus restaurant with a wall of windows overlooking its indoor facility as part of the Manning Center and even more construction is ongoing; The Woody Hayes Center at Ohio State has recently undergone a multi-million dollar renovation and UCLA has a live-camera feed of construction surrounding its new football center, which boasts unbelievable architect renderings. TCU's indoor facility is probably nicer than Texas', but does, admittedly, have the same issue of limited space and little room for observers.
The Texas weight room is average. The big upgrade a year or so ago was new flooring, but it was not a complete makeover. Texas Football tweeted out a pic of the "state of the art" flooring going in, which has little curb appeal but is probably important. UT tweeted out videos showing the flooring was made of revolutionary low-impact material. While Texas' weight room does not resemble a beautiful, functional work of art like that of Oregon; or even an above-average 'Bama, it is probably on par with the Auburns and Texas A&M's of the world and not an embarrassment in the same way the “Bubble” is.
The Texas Locker Room has all the charm of a 2010 Chevy Suburban with wood-grain interior and cloth seats. You're sure it must have cost a pretty penny off the lot. But a few trans-U.S. road trips with sticky-fingered toddlers over five years has it showing its wear and appearing dated. That's actually an appropriate way to describe most of the Moncrief football facility, including the player's lounge. Other features within Moncrief, such as the (creatively named) "Multipurpose Room", where many media events take place, looks like an oversized janitor's closet. In places such as Auburn, the media is provided private workspaces with landline internet that allows photographers and camera crews to upload large files to their news outlet's servers remotely.
(Dunlap)
So the difference between the Texas facilities and other schools is theirs is newer. About what I thought. Texas upgraded theirs back in the late 90's early 2000's. I know aggsy, bama, lsu, and Oregoner all upgraded theirs in the last 5 years.
The Texas facilities are still top 10 or so in the country, however we are due for an upgrade.
The Texas facilities are still top 10 or so in the country, however we are due for an upgrade.
Was at Texas from 95-99. Facilities were always really good just never the best. I visited the basketball facilities in 2008 and they were much nicer than what football had at that time. If they haven't been upgaded since that time I doubt they are even close to the top 10.
If you want to win it all you have to spend the money and I'm not just talking about paying the coach. If these alums are serious about wanting to be involved with the program then tell them to put up or shut up. Just promise them you'll name it after them if they put up the money that always seems to work at Texas
And good grief from what I understand OSU and even Baylor has facilities that are probably better than ours. Well at least in some areas.
And good grief from what I understand OSU and even Baylor has facilities that are probably better than ours. Well at least in some areas.
I know this is a light question but since this is a thread about Tom Herman what I want to know is does the school provide a home for the hc and his family?
There are schools that do, but I do not believe that Texas is one of those. That said, I am sure there are plenty of realtors and lenders ready to make the process of finding a home a smooth one. Since they have young kids, I would bet there are certain locations they prefer for schools or they are being advised on private schools.
Pretty sure most of the coaches live in Westlake or Lake Travis and their kids go to Eanes ISD, LT ISD, St Andrew's or St. Stephens.
