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49-0 tell you prove otherwise...yes OU didnt have Gabriel last year. but lets be honest even with your QB you werent stopping Texas last year. I agree OU defense looks better this year and the game should be closer but i still see a 38-21 win Texas and thats a CLOSE game. Our DLINE will dominate all game long.
 
49-0 tell you prove otherwise...yes OU didnt have Gabriel last year. but lets be honest even with your QB you werent stopping Texas last year. I agree OU defense looks better this year and the game should be closer but i still see a 38-21 win Texas and thats a CLOSE game. Our DLINE will dominate all game long.

It wasn't just that OU was without Gabriel, but they didn't even have a serviceable backup quarterback last year. They had to scramble to sign Gabriel in the transfer portal after their #1 and #2 quarterbacks transferred. OU's defense was atrocious last year, they weren't even in the top 100. No depth whatsoever. So yeah, I agree, if Gabriel had started, then Texas would have won, mainly because of OU's horrible defense that couldn't stop anybody last year. Now, they're able to rotate 25 guys in and have quality depth across the board. This potentially could be the best defense OU has had since the early days of Bob Stoops.
 
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I think the OU D still looks at the sideline too much. Not as bad as last year but they still aren’t comfortable in the system yet when the opponent speeds things up.
Arnold is the wildcard. If Gabriel gets knocked out, this year the backup is an improvement in my opinion.
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It wasn't just that OU was without Gabriel, but they didn't even have a serviceable backup quarterback last year. They had to scramble to sign Gabriel in the transfer portal after their #1 and #2 quarterbacks transferred. OU's defense was atrocious last year, they weren't even in the top 100. No depth whatsoever. So yeah, I agree, if Gabriel had started, then Texas would have won, mainly because of OU's horrible defense that couldn't stop anybody last year. Now, they're able to rotate 25 guys in and have quality depth across the board. This potentially could be the best defense OU has had since the early days of Bob Stoops.

OU's defense actually played alright when the offense was able to move the ball a bit in the first quarter. It was only 7-0 through the first three minutes of the second quarter. When it became pretty obvious that Texas could completely sell out to stop the run with little risk of anything happening in the passing game, OU had one more punt and the dam broke.

That was a common theme throughout the season. If the offense was at least able to move the ball and eat up clock, the defense played good enough to keep it close. If Gabriel plays last year, OU probably still loses but I think it would've been more like all the other 3-7 point losses OU had to mediocre teams (5 of their 7 losses). Cant say the same for the TCU game when we were already getting destroyed before he got injured. TCU was by far the best team we played last year.
 
I think the OU D still looks at the sideline too much. Not as bad as last year but they still aren’t comfortable in the system yet when the opponent speeds things up.
Arnold is the wildcard. If Gabriel gets knocked out, this year the backup is an improvement in my opinion.
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Dirt Burglars 21.

LOL, the "they look at the sideline comment too much" is pretty funny and mostly irrelevant. They have done a great job for the most part of being in position to make plays this season. Run defense and pass coverage have been very good aside from a few busts. The pass rush on the other hand is a massive wild card. Looked good against Cincy, but was virtually non-existent previously,
 
Well----- after perusing the OU v Texas team stats-- we fvcking suck ass and swallow on 3rd down. They are at 54% and we are at 37%. They are at 80% on 4th down and we are at 62.5%.

Guess how many forced fumbles we have?

None---

sheesh
Go look at the win/loss totals of our opponents vs theirs. Also, look at the strength of the schedule for opponents.
 
Go look at the win/loss totals of our opponents vs theirs. Also, look at the strength of the schedule for opponents.

That's a very good point. If you look at the FEI overall ratings (which are mathematically adjusted based on the quality of opponents), then Texas is 6th in the nation right now, with OU at 8th. Again, this suggests that these teams appear to be fairly even, and the game should be a lot closer than it was last year.

 
That's a very good point. If you look at the FEI overall ratings (which are mathematically adjusted based on the quality of opponents), then Texas is 6th in the nation right now, with OU at 8th. Again, this suggests that these teams appear to be fairly even, and the game should be a lot closer than it was last year.

These stats are mostly worthless. They are skewed because blou runs up the score on middle school teams. Look at the strength of schedule. It tells us all we need to know.


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These stats are mostly worthless. Look at the strength of schedule. It tells us all we need to know.


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I guess you're missing the point. The "Unadjusted Efficiency" is mostly worthless. The "Opponent-Adjusted Efficiency" has been adjusted per the "Strength of Schedule."
 
I guess you're missing the point. The "Unadjusted Efficiency" is mostly worthless. The "Opponent-Adjusted Efficiency" has been adjusted per the "Strength of Schedule."
You are missing the point. The meaningless points scored by ou after the game is over, skew the adjusted numbers. OU does this on purpose whereas Texas does not. Meat Chicken benefits from the same BS.

The levels of talent on these teams are still far apart. The Vegas line will be the tell.
 
The meaningless points scored by ou after the game is over, skew the adjusted numbers. OU does this on purpose whereas Texas does not.

Fascinating. So, I'd like to learn more. Does Texas actually actually have a staff member that determines when the game is over, so that Texas won't try to score any more points? I mean, OU obviously has their third and fourth string players trying to run up the score after halftime, but perhaps Texas has perfected it to a degree that those guys are disciplined enough to keep from scoring. If that's true, I kind of feel bad for them. They didn't get a chance to prove themselves when the Rice and Wyoming games got out of hand.
 
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No, when you play tougher competition and take a late lead, you run the ball to kill the clock. Duh. When the sad sisters of the poor just want to collect their check and go home, blou keeps throwing because they know the sad sisters middle school can't come back.

It's easy to see if you haven't been sniffing bosworth's butt all your life.

Owned
 
You are missing the point. The meaningless points scored by ou after the game is over, skew the adjusted numbers. OU does this on purpose whereas Texas does not. Meat Chicken benefits from the same BS.

The levels of talent on these teams are still far apart. The Vegas line will be the tell.

Lol so wait…it’s adjusted for the strength of schedule, so it takes into account that when our 2nd string took over and continued running up the score, it was against a bad defense…how is that meaningless? Margin of victory and quality of opponent are taken into account for both OU and Texas…seems like a pretty unbiased way to do it.
 
No, when you play tougher competition and take a late lead, you run the ball to kill the clock. Duh. When the sad sisters of the poor just want to collect their check and go home, blou keeps throwing because they know the sad sisters middle school can't come back.

It's easy to see if you haven't been sniffing bosworth's butt all your life.

Owned

And it takes into account that you played a tougher opponent and therefore should get more credit for a smaller margin of victory.
 
Lol so wait…it’s adjusted for the strength of schedule, so it takes into account that when our 2nd string took over and continued running up the score, it was against a bad defense…how is that meaningless? Margin of victory and quality of opponent are taken into account for both OU and Texas…seems like a pretty unbiased way to do it.
You are still missing the point. Strength of schedule is underweight and team statistics are overweight. Strategy changes late in the game when one is playing a decent to really good opponent. ou's best opponent is Cincinnati which is a bottom tier team in the b12. Texas 2 weakest opponents have defeated bottom tier b12 teams in Tceh and Houston. Baylol took Utah to the 4th quarter.... The level of competition isn't close. Texas plays smart football when playing decent competition. When we take the lead, we pound the rock. Like I said, ou continues to throw because it's level of competition is so poor. It's called padding the stats.
 
Well----- after perusing the OU v Texas team stats-- we fvcking suck ass and swallow on 3rd down. They are at 54% and we are at 37%. They are at 80% on 4th down and we are at 62.5%.

Guess how many forced fumbles we have?

None---

sheesh
Just wondering…so if we suck ASS and swallow, what are we swallowing?

Never mind, you don’t have to answer that. I think I got it. It’s a metaphor not meant to be taken literally.
 
You are still missing the point. Strength of schedule is underweight and team statistics are overweight. Strategy changes late in the game when one is playing a decent to really good opponent. ou's best opponent is Cincinnati which is a bottom tier team in the b12. Texas 2 weakest opponents have defeated bottom tier b12 teams in Tceh and Houston. Baylol took Utah to the 4th quarter.... The level of competition isn't close. Texas plays smart football when playing decent competition. When we take the lead, we pound the rock. Like I said, ou continues to throw because it's level of competition is so poor. It's called padding the stats.

Those are some major league mental gymnastics lol. Outside of Alabama, who Texas is given a ton of credit for beating, I didn’t see Texas’s strategy change as you suggest it did for any other opponent.

Texas was tied against Wyoming going into the 4th and had to score 21 points in the 4th quarter to beat them and Texas wasn’t even in position to start running the clock out until they got the ball back with 7 minutes left but they fumbled on 3rd down with Wyoming recovering and taking the rest of the time on their last drive so they didn’t even have the opportunity to run it down after scoring 21.

Against rice, Texas scored most of its points with the first team in the 3rd quarter. Its second team was still passing and very obviously trying to score in their first possession of the 4th in a long drive that resulted in a missed field goal and still passing on its final drive which only managed to run about 2 minutes off the clock. And rice isn’t a good team which you suggest would result in a different style of game play in the 4th…Texas only scored 37.

Against Baylor (also not a good team that would’ve dictated the change in game play you suggest), the first team played the first drive of the 4th quarter and Ewers passed several times but the drive stalled out resulting in a missed field goal. The second team took over on Texas’ final drive, only managed to run two minutes off the clock and needed to pass to attempt to get a first down before having to punt.

For OU:

Against Arkansas state, they scored the bulk of their points in the first half and started the second team on their first drive of the second half and was playing the 3rd team midway through the 4th. If the second and 3rd teams score 28 points on you…that isn’t running up the score lol.

Similar to Texas against Wyoming, SMU scored to pull it within 3 early in the 4th quarter and OU had to score 14 to close it out. 1st team played the whole game.

In the Tulsa game, OU scored most of its points in the first half. The 1st team offense played the first two drives of the 3rd quarter which pushed it to 52 points and then the 2nd team took over scoring 2 additional TDs. If some of OU’s backups on defense hadn’t had busts in the second quarter, the 2nd team offense probably plays the whole second half.

Against Cincy, OU was in control for the majority of the game and just had a bunch of slight miscues on offense (probably similar to some of Texas’ early miscues against Wyoming).

Point being, their schedules are fairly similar outside of the Bama game but the results were mostly better for OU which is why OU is a few spots ahead in the FPI and close behind in the efficiency rankings above. Texas couldn’t score in the first half and had to score in the second half to beat a bad team (rice) and was unable to score more points in the 4th when clearly still trying (missed field goals also hurt those rankings). OU hasn’t had that type of problem against the two truly bad teams it played (which are actually both 2-2 right now as is Rice). Texas took care of business against Baylor but still wasn’t as efficient as OU against bad teams (Baylor played well against Utah minus Cam Rising but are near Tulsa bad). OU was in firmer control for most of the game against SMU and Cincy than Texas was against Wyoming.

But whatever, I guess we’ll have the answer next weekend
 
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Those are some major league mental gymnastics lol. Outside of Alabama, who Texas is given a ton of credit for beating, I didn’t see Texas’s strategy change as you suggest it did for any other opponent.

Texas was tied against Wyoming going into the 4th and had to score 21 points in the 4th quarter to beat them and Texas wasn’t even in position to start running the clock out until they got the ball back with 7 minutes left but they fumbled on 3rd down with Wyoming recovering and taking the rest of the time on their last drive so they didn’t even have the opportunity to run it down after scoring 21.

Against rice, Texas scored most of its points with the first team in the 3rd quarter. Its second team was still passing and very obviously trying to score in their first possession of the 4th in a long drive that resulted in a missed field goal and still passing on its final drive which only managed to run about 2 minutes off the clock. And rice isn’t a good team which you suggest would result in a different style of game play in the 4th…Texas only scored 37.

Against Baylor (also not a good team that would’ve dictated the change in game play you suggest), the first team played the first drive of the 4th quarter and Ewers passed several times but the drive stalled out resulting in a missed field goal. The second team took over on Texas’ final drive, only managed to run two minutes off the clock and needed to pass to attempt to get a first down before having to punt.

For OU:

Against Arkansas state, they scored the bulk of their points in the first half and started the second team on their first drive of the second half and was playing the 3rd team midway through the 4th. If the second and 3rd teams score 28 points on you…that isn’t running up the score lol.

Similar to Texas against Wyoming, SMU scored to pull it within 3 early in the 4th quarter and OU had to score 14 to close it out. 1st team played the whole game.

In the Tulsa game, OU scored most of its points in the first half. The 1st team offense played the first two drives of the 3rd quarter which pushed it to 52 points and then the 2nd team took over scoring 2 additional TDs. If some of OU’s backups on defense hadn’t had busts in the second quarter, the 2nd team offense probably plays the whole second half.

Against Cincy, OU was in control for the majority of the game and just had a bunch of slight miscues on offense (probably similar to some of Texas’ early miscues against Wyoming).

Point being, their schedules are fairly similar outside of the Bama game but the results were mostly better for OU which is why OU is a few spots ahead in the FPI and close behind in the efficiency rankings above. Texas couldn’t score in the first half and had to score in the second half to beat a bad team (rice) and was unable to score more points in the 4th when clearly still trying (missed field goals also hurt those rankings). OU hasn’t had that type of problem against the two truly bad teams it played (which are actually both 2-2 right now as is Rice). Texas took care of business against Baylor but still wasn’t as efficient as OU against bad teams (Baylor played well against Utah minus Cam Rising but are near Tulsa bad). OU was in firmer control for most of the game against SMU and Cincy than Texas was against Wyoming.

But whatever, I guess we’ll have the answer next weekend
Have fun with Iowa State. Little Dylan is going to have a rough time. Whatever you do, make sure to get him to Dallas in one piece so we can pack his poo poo.
 
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ou's best opponent is Cincinnati which is a bottom tier team in the b12.

Cincinnati is not a “bottom tier team” in the Big 12. You can pretty much go to any set of reputable power ratings out there and see they’re about the middle of the pack. They’re actually better than Iowa State, who OU plays on Saturday. Cincinnati is favored by 2 on the road at Brigham Young.
 
Cincinnati is not a “bottom tier team” in the Big 12. You can pretty much go to any set of reputable power ratings out there and see they’re about the middle of the pack. They’re actually better than Iowa State, who OU plays on Saturday. Cincinnati is favored by 2 on the road at Brigham Young.
Come back next Friday before the game. This will ensure that we will only have to endure your stupidity for 1 day.
 
Come back next Friday before the game. This will ensure that we will only have to endure your stupidity for 1 day.

It should come as no surprise when someone has no factual information or supporting documentation to refute someone, they result to insults and ad hominem attacks. Carry on.
 
It should come as no surprise when someone has no factual information or supporting documentation to refute someone, they result to insults and ad hominem attacks. Carry on.
Dude, I owned you. You are tiresome and have been proven wrong. Please go away.
 
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Have fun with Iowa State. Little Dylan is going to have a rough time. Whatever you do, make sure to get him to Dallas in one piece so we can pack his poo poo.

Should have more fun than y’all usually do with Kansas but we’ve been known to drop one to Iowa st teams that have no business being in the game so we’ll see… just hope both teams are undefeated this time next week. Will make the game much more relevant than it has been in a long time.
 
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Should have more fun than y’all usually do with Kansas but we’ve been known to drop one to Iowa st teams that have no business being in the game so we’ll see… just hope both teams are undefeated this time next week. Will make the game much more relevant than it has been in a long time.
Oklahoma will be to motivated to lose to Iowa State. There's a real chance both teams will be undefeated next week and they're not about to lose.
 
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Well----- after perusing the OU v Texas team Bruh..... you don't believe in bad juju?????????
I’m all about the juju. If I’m not at the game it all comes down to the chair I’m sitting on, the TV I’m watching, the room I’m in, the way I cross my legs, the drink I’m drinking, or whatever juju is necessary to bring home the win. Juju is real.
 
In the Tulsa game, OU scored most of its points in the first half.

True, but facts don't matter to some of these people. They spout out opinions, and mix in terms like "proven wrong" without any substantiation.

OU scored their final points against Tulsa at the beginning of the 4th quarter on a rushing TD by the 4th string running back. There were still 14 minutes left, nearly the entire 4th quarter. OU attempted one pass in the 4th quarter, when its backup quarterback completed a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 9. Every other play in the fourth quarter was a handoff to the 3rd or 4th string running back.
 
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True, but facts don't matter to some of these people. They spout out opinions, and mix in terms like "proven wrong" without any substantiation.

OU scored their final points against Tulsa at the beginning of the 4th quarter on a rushing TD by the 4th string running back. There were still 14 minutes left, nearly the entire 4th quarter. They attempted one pass in the 4th quarter, when their backup quarterback completed a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 9. Every other play in the fourth quarter was a handoff to the 3rd or 4th string running back.

And don’t look now but Tulsa is 3-2 after last night with their only two losses to OU and Washington. That freshman QB they threw in that produced their two scoring drives against us looks pretty good. Kevin Wilson may turn them into a fairly decent G5 team in his first year. I bet they at least get bowl eligible.
 
And don’t look now but Tulsa is 3-2 after last night with their only two losses to OU and Washington. That freshman QB they threw in that produced their two scoring drives against us looks pretty good. Kevin Wilson may turn them into a fairly decent G5 team in his first year. I bet they at least get bowl eligible.
I was pulling for Temple but I knew Tulsa would win. And Temple has one of our own as a head coach but it's one of the worst jobs in the country.
 
OU defense already given up 220 yards and 17 points to a terrible Iowa State offense. They lost a lot of guys before the season from that gambling ordeal 😂😂.

That defense is still charmin soft
 
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