Dan Quinn's D at Florida

[Iceman]

With news breaking that Sark might be looking at hiring Dan Quinn as DC, I figured I'd throw out some stats from Urban's last two defenses at Florida (2008 & 2009) and Quinn's 2 defense at Florida under Muschamp (2011 & 2012). It's hard to look at this and not be impressed, especially with him putting up these numbers with Muschamp as the HC and a much inferior offense on the other side of the ball compared to when Urban was the HC. Quinn's defenses performed as well or better than Urban's!

Defensive S&P+
3rd -- 2009
11th -- 2010
-------------------
10th -- 2011
1st -- 2012
* Defensive S&P+ Ratings are a college football ratings system derived from the play-by-play and drive data of all 800+ of a season's FBS college football games (and 140,000+ plays). The components for Defensive S&P+ reflect opponent-adjusted components of four of what Bill Connelly has deemed the Five Factors of college football: efficiency, explosiveness, field position, and finishing drives. The 5th component is sack rate.

DFEI
6th -- 2009
23rd -- 2010
-------------------
19th -- 2011
2nd -- 2012
* DFEI is a college football rating system based on opponent-adjusted possession efficiency, representing the per possession scoring advantage a team would be expected to have on a neutral field against an average opponent.


Defensive Busted Drive Rate
1st -- 2009
64th -- 2010
-------------------
37th -- 2011
19th -- 2012


Yards Allowed per Game
2nd -- 2009
10th -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


Yards Allowed per Play
5th -- 2009
13th -- 2010
-------------------
6th -- 2011
4th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Game
6th -- 2009
31st -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
5th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Play
6th -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
18th -- 2011
7th -- 2012


TDs Surrendered per Game
65th -- 2009
30th -- 2010
-------------------
20th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


3rd Down Conversion % Allowed
3rd -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
2nd -- 2011
10th -- 2012


Punts Forced per Play (frequency of forcing punts)
11th -- 2009
19th -- 2010
-------------------
12th -- 2011
19th -- 2012


Punts Forced vs TDs/FGs Allowed
53rd -- 2009
28th -- 2010
-------------------
13th -- 2011
13th -- 2012

 

[El Mahico]

Good stuff Lake

 

[Bugtussle U]

 

[Okie4horns]

Good stuff

 

[ernie#1]

People need to realize that defenses back then didn’t have to deal with the spread.

 

[McHorn]

Isn’t it easier to just post s&p+ Defense or dfei?

Those are very complete stats.

good info though. Really hope he’s the guy.

 

[60]

People need to realize that defenses back then didn’t have to deal with the spread.

People also need to realize that Quinn is an unrealistically best case scenario.

 

[coldsulli]

Don't teams that have trouble scoring often times allow fewer yards, points, etc. than the higher flyers?

 

[BroseveltLeaks]

People also need to realize that Quinn is an unrealistically best case scenario.

yah not getting my hopes up

 

[Buddah318]

With news breaking that Sark might be looking at hiring Dan Quinn as DC, I figured I'd throw out some stats from Urban's last two defenses at Florida (2008 & 2009) and Quinn's 2 defense at Florida under Muschamp (2011 & 2012). It's hard to look at this and not be impressed, especially with him putting up these numbers with Muschamp as the HC and a much inferior offense on the other side of the ball compared to when Urban was the HC. Quinn's defenses performed as well or better than Urban's!

Yards Allowed per Game
2nd -- 2009
10th -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


Yards Allowed per Play
5th -- 2009
13th -- 2010
-------------------
6th -- 2011
4th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Game
6th -- 2009
31st -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
5th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Play
6th -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
18th -- 2011
7th -- 2012


TDs Surrendered per Game
65th -- 2009
30th -- 2010
-------------------
20th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


3rd Down Conversion % Allowed
3rd -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
2nd -- 2011
10th -- 2012


Punts Forced per Play (frequency of forcing punts)
11th -- 2009
19th -- 2010
-------------------
12th -- 2011
19th -- 2012


Punts Forced vs TDs/FGs Allowed
53rd -- 2009
28th -- 2010
-------------------
13th -- 2011
13th -- 2012

I was looking for busted drive rate but couldn’t find it

 

[Dave C2]

I had not heard anything about Dan Quinn. Holy S. I would consider that a home run.

 

[dunemessiah]

People need to realize that defenses back then didn’t have to deal with the spread.

Its a valid point. Although, they infamously shut down OU's spread in a bowl (sans their best offensive player)
I believe they played Cincy in a bowl game, which turned out to be the most points they allowed against an opponent. Likely their only spread opponent in 2009.

 

[Dave C2]

With news breaking that Sark might be looking at hiring Dan Quinn as DC, I figured I'd throw out some stats from Urban's last two defenses at Florida (2008 & 2009) and Quinn's 2 defense at Florida under Muschamp (2011 & 2012). It's hard to look at this and not be impressed, especially with him putting up these numbers with Muschamp as the HC and a much inferior offense on the other side of the ball compared to when Urban was the HC. Quinn's defenses performed as well or better than Urban's!

Yards Allowed per Game
2nd -- 2009
10th -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


Yards Allowed per Play
5th -- 2009
13th -- 2010
-------------------
6th -- 2011
4th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Game
6th -- 2009
31st -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
5th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Play
6th -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
18th -- 2011
7th -- 2012


TDs Surrendered per Game
65th -- 2009
30th -- 2010
-------------------
20th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


3rd Down Conversion % Allowed
3rd -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
2nd -- 2011
10th -- 2012


Punts Forced per Play (frequency of forcing punts)
11th -- 2009
19th -- 2010
-------------------
12th -- 2011
19th -- 2012


Punts Forced vs TDs/FGs Allowed
53rd -- 2009
28th -- 2010
-------------------
13th -- 2011
13th -- 2012

Iceman, where is the Quinn news coming from? I can't find a thing on here other than this thread?

 

[ZoomAir34]

Iceman, where is the Quinn news coming from? I can't find a thing on here other than this thread?

Orangefans

 

[Iceman]

People need to realize that defenses back then didn’t have to deal with the spread.

Urban Meyer, Chad Morris, Chip Kelly, Josh Heupel, Art Briles, Gus Malzahn, Kevin Sumlin, Mike Leach, and Dana Holgorsen all ran some variation of the spread or air raid at that time. Heck, Urban is credited as inventing the RPO concept.

 

[Iceman]

Iceman, where is the Quinn news coming from? I can't find a thing on here other than this thread?

https://texas.forums.rivals.com/threads/dan-quinn-in-play-as-dc.508340/

 

[MuggyMug]

I'm guessing Dan Quinn is fully qualified to take over our defense. The constant hand ringing on here is amazing. One of the top 5 head coaches in college in this era hired him to take over his defense, but he's not good enough for Big 12 also ran Texas.

 

[Dave C2]

Orangefans

Crap!

I was hoping it might be a reputable source

 

[ernie#1]

Urban Meyer, Chad Morris, Chip Kelly, Josh Heupel, Art Briles, Gus Malzahn, Kevin Sumlin, Mike Leach, and Dana Holgorsen all ran some variation of the spread or air raid at that time. Heck, Urban is credited as inventing the RPO concept.

The sec at that time other than maybe Florida’s was mostly power and not spread

 

[Johnuoftexas]

So Sark is trying to hire the HC that fired him as an OC in Atlanta as his DC? That seems unusual

 

[Frank Pentangeli]

Yeah, but it was in the "no offense" SEC, so he must actually suck.

 

[Texasgolong]

With news breaking that Sark might be looking at hiring Dan Quinn as DC, I figured I'd throw out some stats from Urban's last two defenses at Florida (2008 & 2009) and Quinn's 2 defense at Florida under Muschamp (2011 & 2012). It's hard to look at this and not be impressed, especially with him putting up these numbers with Muschamp as the HC and a much inferior offense on the other side of the ball compared to when Urban was the HC. Quinn's defenses performed as well or better than Urban's!

Yards Allowed per Game
2nd -- 2009
10th -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


Yards Allowed per Play
5th -- 2009
13th -- 2010
-------------------
6th -- 2011
4th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Game
6th -- 2009
31st -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
5th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Play
6th -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
18th -- 2011
7th -- 2012


TDs Surrendered per Game
65th -- 2009
30th -- 2010
-------------------
20th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


3rd Down Conversion % Allowed
3rd -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
2nd -- 2011
10th -- 2012


Punts Forced per Play (frequency of forcing punts)
11th -- 2009
19th -- 2010
-------------------
12th -- 2011
19th -- 2012


Punts Forced vs TDs/FGs Allowed
53rd -- 2009
28th -- 2010
-------------------
13th -- 2011
13th -- 2012

How do his numbers compare to Ash? Vs spread and other.

 

[Horn Believer]

People need to realize that defenses back then didn’t have to deal with the spread.

Sure there may not have been as many "modern" spread offense back then, but the stats shown above are relative rankings across ALL teams. So being top 10ish in the nation in these categories is good no matter if it was in 2010 or 1950.

 

[McHorn]

More telling stat:

Seattle Defenses under Quinn: #1 in the NFL every year by a laughable amount. They were 10% better than the 2nd best team in yards allowed both years. The gap between 1 and 2 those years was about the same as the gapm between 2 and 10.

You dont run the two of the best defenses in NFL history without being elite at what you do.

In Quinn's first season as defensive coordinator, the Seahawks led the league in fewest points allowed, fewest yards allowed, and takeaways with 231, 4,378, and 39, respectively, to become the first team since the 1985 Chicago Bears to accomplish the feat; the Seahawks went on to win Super Bowl XLVIII over the Denver Broncos.[9][10]

 

[FTP Horn]

I feel very confident in saying Dan Quinn will not be UT’s DC in 2021 and you are delusional if you think he will be.

If anyone is looking for a sliver of hope I said the same thing about TH being fired after winning the bowl game. 😉

 

[deronjohn]

Sark is definitely replicating the Saban model of NFL influence.

Very very smart, starting to like the hire more and more

 

[Iceman]

Isn’t it easier to just post s&p+ Defense or dfei?

Those are very complete stats.

good info though. Really hope he’s the guy.

I just added it. I'd previously omitted it, simply because it then requires explaining what it is to those that don't know. But, I went back and added it for those that understand it.

 

[NewnanHorn]

People need to realize that defenses back then didn’t have to deal with the spread.

He’s a former NFL DC, who excelled at that level against the best competition in football. By comparison, Greg Robinson did wonders here. He gets a lot of good pub for the great job he did in NFL for Broncos and their SB teams but he also was DC of the Chiefs when I lived in KC. And really good Chiefs teams (Priest Holmes) that were high AFC seeds including some top seeds. He was awful there including having worst D in NFL and was forced to resign.

He then comes to Texas in 2004 with no experience vs spread and D improves. Now you may question how many spread teams did we face in 2004 (OU was certainly one) but he came back in 2013 and immediately cleaned up Diaz’s mess and it was certainly against the spread. If Greg Robinson can do it, Dan Quinn can. These guys aren’t NFL DCs because they suck and can’t gameplan. He’d be a fantastic hire.

 

[Russhorn]

I mean I think the odds are long we pull Dan Quinn but the relationships Sark has with Carrol could help so there is a chance. Anyone who thinks this wouldn’t be a grand slam home run is an idiot who needs to ban themselves from this site. Quinn is an elite DC at the NFL level, never mind college. Couple that with The the DL coach and my only wish would be we get two years out of them.

 

[Iceman]

I was looking for busted drive rate but couldn’t find it

I added it above.

Source

 

[BrobaFapp]

Quinn needs to be the biggest target right now. That is like a triple grand slam hire. The news that Lupoi might not want to give up coaching NFL yet, may make it much easier to convince him since he was already on Quinn's staff in Atlanta. Quinn could talk him into it.

 

[Merica_007]

Be a steal of a hire. Sark grand slams this staff if Quinn comes aboard.

 

[McHorn]

I still have to believe this is near an impossibility.

He would be one of, if not the, biggest target for NFL DC this offseason.

I honestly think he could be a very solid P5 head coach hire right now. Hes a super bowl coach with elite coaching chops at the college and NFL ranks. Very Pete Carrol USC type hire.

 

[Buddah318]

With news breaking that Sark might be looking at hiring Dan Quinn as DC, I figured I'd throw out some stats from Urban's last two defenses at Florida (2008 & 2009) and Quinn's 2 defense at Florida under Muschamp (2011 & 2012). It's hard to look at this and not be impressed, especially with him putting up these numbers with Muschamp as the HC and a much inferior offense on the other side of the ball compared to when Urban was the HC. Quinn's defenses performed as well or better than Urban's!

Defensive S&P+
3rd -- 2009
11th -- 2010
-------------------
10th -- 2011
1st -- 2012
* Defensive S&P+ Ratings are a college football ratings system derived from the play-by-play and drive data of all 800+ of a season's FBS college football games (and 140,000+ plays). The components for Defensive S&P+ reflect opponent-adjusted components of four of what Bill Connelly has deemed the Five Factors of college football: efficiency, explosiveness, field position, and finishing drives. The 5th component is sack rate.

DFEI
6th -- 2009
23rd -- 2010
-------------------
19th -- 2011
2nd -- 2012
* DFEI is a college football rating system based on opponent-adjusted possession efficiency, representing the per possession scoring advantage a team would be expected to have on a neutral field against an average opponent.


Defensive Busted Drive Rate
1st -- 2009
64th -- 2010
-------------------
37th -- 2011
19th -- 2012


Yards Allowed per Game
2nd -- 2009
10th -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


Yards Allowed per Play
5th -- 2009
13th -- 2010
-------------------
6th -- 2011
4th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Game
6th -- 2009
31st -- 2010
-------------------
11th -- 2011
5th -- 2012


Points Allowed per Play
6th -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
18th -- 2011
7th -- 2012


TDs Surrendered per Game
65th -- 2009
30th -- 2010
-------------------
20th -- 2011
6th -- 2012


3rd Down Conversion % Allowed
3rd -- 2009
37th -- 2010
-------------------
2nd -- 2011
10th -- 2012


Punts Forced per Play (frequency of forcing punts)
11th -- 2009
19th -- 2010
-------------------
12th -- 2011
19th -- 2012


Punts Forced vs TDs/FGs Allowed
53rd -- 2009
28th -- 2010
-------------------
13th -- 2011
13th -- 2012

I really wish this would happen but I think he’s gonna be too high in demand in the NFL

 

[UT Bondman]

I mean I think the odds are long we pull Dan Quinn but the relationships Sark has with Carrol could help so there is a chance. Anyone who thinks this wouldn’t be a grand slam home run is an idiot who needs to ban themselves from this site. Quinn is an elite DC at the NFL level, never mind college. Couple that with The the DL coach and my only wish would be we get two years out of them.

Just to clarify, no one said (or reported) that Sark used Carroll to help with Quinn. Sark worked for Quinn and Sark was forced out by the GM in Atlanta, not Quinn.