Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend: 24 Hours Later...

[NewnanHorn]

No doubt, but I was mainly thinking of first seasons as starters.

Colts first year was also the last season that Texas had a plus OL with multiple NFL players on that OL. Give Card that OL, he’s not playing as scared and Robinson runs wilds last night. Every other first year starter after Colt - Gilbert, Ash, Swoopes, Sam, etc has a much better year with that OL. Colt also was pinpoint accurate and a much better athlete then a lot of our QBs since and one of the fastest as well

 

[Rotarran9116]

That’s part of the data point, both schools consistently put OL into the league and saw a deficiency in their current situation and sought to remedy it with Tennessee transfers.

I get it, but there as yet isnt any actual proof theyd have come here. Thats what I asked him for. I can say I need a new car for example but if I couldn't get one its tough to blame me later when the current one breaks.

Bad example but you should get where Im coming from.

 

[Ketchum]

VY went 6-0 after he became the starter though

And was benched in the Tech game. Those teams he played on could survive sketchy passing performances.

 

[Ketchum]

That’s fair. Is there anything that can be done on the OLine? I guess insert Karic and Conner?

Those are the two, I would think.

 

[Ketchum]

I don’t see where starting CT at least thru OU (see where the chips fall) and continuing to let Card grow and develop is an admission on his part he was wrong.

You don't?

 

[Ketchum]

@Ketchum
Warren Beatty “Heaven Can Wait”?
Russell Crowe “Cinderella Man”?

I don't remember Heaven Can Wait. I know the movie and saw it when I was a kid, but I don't remember any sports scenes.

Crowe is a good nomination.

 

[Ketchum]

So you really think that Sark had settled on Cars months ago?

Yes.

 

[Ketchum]

Not yet..I’m more hopeful than trusting, his resume is not Saban, Meyer or even Mack Brown.

But, he's an expert in his field with quarterbacks, no?

 

[Ketchum]

Costner was good in Tin Cup, but better in Bull Durham. Crash Davis should be top 5 on your list.

Received very serious consideration. Some say he doesn't swing the bat all that well.

 

[Ketchum]

@Ketchum B/S. Sark didn't want show too much considering we have Rice coming up this week.

 

[Ketchum]

It's about 2 qtrs to late...if he woul have at least rotated CT I to game early he could have given card cover and some time to collect his shit...leaving him in there for that ass kicking did nothing to further his development

we're not in any disagreement that the hook came too late.

 

[Ketchum]

Completely off topic but last night a poster created a thread about Sark and drinking. It was trash and it was deleted. Did the poster get a ban?

I didn't see it. Not sure.

 

[Ketchum]

Not anymore.

Not even as a quarterbacks coach?

 

[Ketchum]

If Hudson Card can’t hit the deep ball is there a point in playing him? It’s great that he can hit short and intermediate throws, but he is way off on the deep ball. Like a waste of a play. His best attribute is worthless if he can’t hit the deep ball in this offense.

Can't is a strong word, even if he hasn't hit it well so far.

 

[Ketchum]

VY flashed though. Bad games still have flashes. There were no flashes from Card last night. Zero. Like, if someone said, ‘what are this guy’s strengths based on tonight?’, you would struggle to come up with something. He didn’t get hurt? He didn’t throw it right to the other team?

Oh, Card had a couple of nice moments. His receivers didn't do him any favors, nor did his coaches.

 

[Ketchum]

So, 7 touchdown drives and 2 field goal drives in 20 minutes is bad? You want him to slow down his drives? I’m truly baffled by this response. (And I think he’s played more than 20 minutes, but even if so, . . .)

Its what he has been given. He’s done a lot with what he has been given, which was out of his control. He’s done his part. In spades.

I'm not counting games from last season under a different coaching staff. It didn't matter before the initial decision was made and doesn't start to matter three games into a new season.

Like I said, I really wished we'd see him earlier on Saturday.

 

[Ketchum]

I don't agree with this statement at all. Sark made a decision based on the information he had at the time (off-season workouts, spring ball and fall camp) but this sport is about what happens in games. And it is not uncommon for that data point to change dramatically when the lights come on.

We've seen it in Austin with our own eyes several times at the position. Morenz/Brown, VY/Mock and to some degree Simms/Applewhite.

I think Casey's production when he's on the field warrants a further look. Is Sark not allowed to come to a similar decision because he went with Card on August 9? That just doesn't make a lot of sense to me with what is at stake for both Sark and the program. He has to get it right this season, no matter how he gets to the conclusion. Wouldn't you agree?

agree to disagree.

 

[Ketchum]

The question wasn’t whether we should run him out of town. I’ve never come close to posting that. The question was whether he won our trust with last night’s performance, and whether that trust will carry me through his decision to continue with the Card experiment if this is indeed what we see after our first offensive possession against Rice. No, it’s silly to say we should fire Sark on one loss (even though that was an atrocious loss, worst loss since Kansas). But do I trust him? No, he has lost that from a large percentage of the fan base. I hope like hell he earns that back before three years are up.

You either trust him as a developer of quarterbacks, his No.1 skill as a coach, or you don't.

 

[Ketchum]

1. Do you have indisputable information that portal players who are verifiably better than what we have now would have signed if UT offered or pushed hard?

2. What exactly is he supposed to sell? You've said yourself the usual new coach bump just didnt happen here this time. Recruits are watching and waiting. Portal players didnt have that luxury rolling back to question #1

3. How much better do you expect these guys to realistically be in 8 months? Outside of Hayden Conner the majority are products of the Herb Hand era, one you know and Dunlap can prove was not working for quite some time. You point to the last two games of the season, both against awful football teams.

Kyle Flood gets the big bucks and he has to take the ire for this, but to realistically expect him to make chicken salad out of chicken shit is silly. Its been two games, are we are really already into the "Im not saying he warrants being on the hot seat" but laying the groundwork for why he should be fired phase?

1. justice oluwaseun was a guy I talked about for months. Started at multiple positions at UNLV, is from the state of Texas and is now starting at Miami after playing very well vs. Alabama. There were players out there. Furthermore, I believe Texas should be tampering with players at other schools from Texas to let them know they'd have spots if they want to transafer.

2. The same stuff that they've sold to Finkley, Tapp, etc...

3. Better, not worse.

 

[Ketchum]

@Ketchum I'm gonna assume you left Mickey Rourke off the list for The Wrestler because you either didn't see the movie or forgot

I thought about him, for sure.

 

[Ketchum]

James Brown began his career by beating OU. James Street was brought in for Super Bill Bradley when we’d fallen behind and SBB wasn’t moving the team in their new offense called the Wishbone. Both started from then on and never let go. Street won a NC and Brown beat a heavily favored Nebraska team in the first Nig 12 Championship game. James Brown’s arm was never quite the same after his redshirt freshman season when Mackovic had him throw way too many passes in spring training. Brown’s arm was so weak after he used elastomer cords to exercise it rather than traditional strength training,

a. Street basically played in an offense that rarely threw the ball. He's hard to equate in the modern game.

b. I'm not talking about what JB did in following seasons. I'm talking about performances in his first season. Go back and look at some of those early box scores.

 

[Ketchum]

He's not admitting that he was terribly wrong at all. He said it was the toughest decision of his coaching career, meaning that the two were so close in camp that either guy could start essentially. Putting Casey in isn't any admission of failure IMO.

His actions don't reflect what his words told us.

He literally sacrificed reps for Thompson for Charles Wright at times.

 

[Ketchum]

As expected coming from prez of Card fan club. Hope Sarkisian sucks up his ego more than you did and benches Card. Qb shuffle in first quarter asinine and only unsure coaches with no clue do this. Casey is the clear starter going forward. I fell for Card last week because I wanted so dearly to believe Texas had a bonifide stud at QB in Card. Made a post last week during game that you were right. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice yada yada.

It's not ego to essentially say that the competition needs to continue. I'm admitting I'm not sure.

But, yeah, take shots at me for sport. I'm cool.

 

[Ketchum]

Top 10 List: Totally agree on Carl Weathers as #1. He was made for that role, but it didn't define him as an actor. He's had a long, successful career in all sorts of roles.
Jimmy Chitwood should be higher, if only for the scene where Coach is talking to him at home and he's swishing almost every shot, and there were a few of them. You know Gene Hackman wasn't going to stand there grabbing an almost flat ball for several takes, so he must've practiced like a fiend to prepare. "I'll make it" - one of my favorite scenes in any sports movie.
Also, Kevin Costner was such as smooth athlete. I guess he played baseball when he was a kid or you would've listed those movies as well. Tin Cup is on my short list for something I'll stop and watch any time I find it while surfing channels.
My only disagreement is with Charlie Sheen in Major League. There were others in that same movie who looked more natural than him.
However, great effort here. Keep 'em coming!

Sheen was actually throwing mid-80s... for real.

 

[Ketchum]

Regardless, I trust Steve Sarkisian more than myself and 99 percent of you regarding evaluation of QB talent. I don't think that's crazy.

+1

 

[Rotarran9116]

1. justice oluwaseun was a guy I talked about for months. Started at multiple positions at UNLV, is from the state of Texas and is now starting at Miami after playing very well vs. Alabama. There were players out there. Furthermore, I believe Texas should be tampering with players at other schools from Texas to let them know they'd have spots if they want to transafer.

2. The same stuff that they've sold to Finkley, Tapp, etc...

3. Better, not worse.

So you guarentee hed be here if they pushed?

Those are DLs not OLs. What was the magic they sold the current OL commits that the elite arent buying?

You think 2020 bowl game Colorado and 2020 end of year Kansas State, both awful football teams, are better than 2021 ULL and Arkansas?

 

[Ketchum]

Of course they are

You'd be surprised, I suppose.

 

[Ketchum]

He lost a ton of trust after last night.

Let's hope the team disagrees.

 

[RLong68]

Well well

The ONLY answer is to start CT. Period. That does NOT mean you are giving up on Card. It means you are doing what is best for the team. It is possible CT is simply a gamer. It is possible Card just isn’t ready for prime time. Neither means that Sark’s choice from 20+ practices wasn’t the correct decision based on what he saw. It may simply be that what happens in practice isn’t translating to the games.

By starting CT this week (and letting Card play in Q3 just like the first game) we get to see a much more realistic competition between them. This is a decision not only for the rest of the year, but the next couple years. Getting more data points is the smart thing to do.

This. Jeezus is that’s so hard to understand. For whatever oddball f’n reason there is this sheer terror by some in the possibility, remote or not, that Card jut might not be the QB Messiah.

 

[Ketchum]

On an intensity scale of 1 - 10 ours was a 6. Theirs was a 17. Nothing else needs to be said.

Might have been a 20.

 

[Ignatius J Reilly]

Oh, Card had a couple of nice moments. His receivers didn't do him any favors, nor did his coaches.

What were they?

 

[Ketchum]

I agree. Ketch is trying to save his rep here. Card was very indecisive and conservative as if he was trying not to lose instead of trying to win.. CT has more confidence and is more decisive at this point in his career. CT has had the benefit from watching one of the best do it for 4 years SE. Card is a stud and wont be a bust like Garrett Gilbert but he isn't ready right now. If you leave him in their you run the risk of the whole team losing confidence in the coach..

Just being honest. I might be wrong, but I'm never going to just say what I think is popular.

 

[Ketchum]

I think the biggest part is who does the team believe in not just the coach. I think Card is the better QB but I do not like his leadership style and if feels like the staff will let Thompson run more and move the chains with a bad OL. I think you play both all year and get Card ready for next year but roll with Casey as the starter most games.

Good point. I think the team absolutely believes in Card, but Sark has to know his team really well and sense if there's an issue there.

 

[Ketchum]

if sark only wins 4 games do we call urban

I'm sorry, what? 4-8?

 

[Ketchum]

How about these movie athletes:

Cedric the Entertainer as Percy Stevens (Man of the House)
Chris Pratt as Scott Hatteberg (Moneyball)
Scott Bakula as Paul Blake (Necessary Roughness)
Anthony Mackie as Nate Ruffin (We Are Marshall)

I've never seen We Are Marshall. Don't ask me how, it just never happened.