Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (A heavy dose of "Uh oh")
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Can score from anywhere on the floor against any defender the NBA has ever had. Can score 80 in any game. Can make impossible shots from really difficult angles that are impossible to defend. Great with his left and right. Can post up and demand 3 defenders. Those are just a few reasons why he was called the black mamba. Lethal weapon offensively.
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Right, but what did he specifically do better than Kobe?
Kobe career: 25.0 points, 5.2 rebounds, 4.7 assists, 44.7% FG, 32.9% 3%, 48.2 eFG%, 22.9 PER, 172 WS
LeBron career: 27.1 points, 7.1 rebounds, 7.1 assists, 50.4% FG, 34.4% 3%, 54.1 eFG%, 27.5 PER, 236 WS
I guess Kobe was a better free throw shooter...
Lebron is the ultimate stat stuffer no doubt. What did Kobe average per game(not counting his last 3 seasons where he barely played due to playing on one leg)?
Trust me, I think Lebron is a top 7 guy of all time. His ability to be so consistent for this many years is amazing.
Just talking about scoring though....Kobe scored 40+ points a game 122 times in his career. Lebron is at 65 times in his career which shows that ability to be dangerous and be dominate offensively with big time scoring games. A lot of guys score 30+ in a game but that 40+ in a game is at another level imo. Kobe has scored 50+ in a game 25 times while Lebron is at 12 times in his career.
The fact that Lebron is 3-6 in the NBA finals hurts though. If he was 7-2 he would be number 3 on my list behind Wil and MJ. Here is my top 10 list of all time.
1. Wilt(scored 40+ points in a game 271 times)
2. MJ(6-0 in NBA Finals)
3. Oscar(Average over 30+ points per game 6 times in his career including 10+ assists 5 times in a season)
4. Magic(6 foot 9" point guard that literally made everyone better around him. Best passer of all time).
5. Shaq(2nd most dominate big man of all time)
6. Kobe(Could score from anywhere on the floor while locking up the other teams best offensive player)
7. Lebron(2nd most complete player of all time behind Oscar)
8. Hakeem(My favorite player of all time. Nobody could dominate both ends of the floor like Dream)
9. Abdul-Jabbar(Most dominate scoring big man not name Wilt)
10. Bird(His ability to score, rebound, pass, and the ability to hit big shots in big games was amazing)
You said a lot of words.... none of them made a case for what Kobe did that is better than LeBron as a player.
You asked me what made Kobe more dangerous then Lebron on the offensive side of things. Being a more dynamic scorer(Kobe 40+ points in a game 122 times compared to Lebron only 65 times and Kobe scoring 50+ points in a game 25 times compared to only 12 times for Lebron). I'm a huge Lebron fan. I just think Kobe had that scare factor that Lebron just never had for me if I was playing or coaching against him. I would never be afraid of Lebron scoring 60 in a game against us, but I would always have that feeling that Kobe could go off for 70-80+ points in a game playing against him.
Also Ketch, you ask any NBA General Manger or coach over the last 25+ years nobody would ever say Lebron was a better on the ball or off the ball defender then Kobe(tied for first of all time with 9 first team all nba first team defensive with MJ, Garnett, and Gary Payton the glove). Kobe was at another level compared to Lebron who is a good defender but not elite like Kobe was. That's 50% of the game right there.
k. you're making a fairly weak case that literally no one that covers the sport would ever make.
LeBron passed Kobe miles ago and I respect the hell out of Kobe. It's not really about him.
Regardless of what it looks like, the "publisher" is not really answering questions as much as giving opinions. The weekly BUY/SELL is read every week by me, but I do not necessarily look forward to it. Opinions are a dime a dozen. Just review his 10+ Opinions From The Weekend but please don't place bets on his thoughts.
With all due respect, he is around the ball a lot more than others. To make (and miss) tackles you need to be at the point of attack. I think at this point, I appreciate his 7 tackles more than I will condemn his misses (2 ?).
Yep. I did have it right, per @Alex Dunlap
Missed Tackles
LB Demarvion Overshown - 5
DE Moro Ojomo - 2
LB Joseph Ossai - 2
S B.J. Foster - 2
S Caden Sterns - 2
CB D'Shawn Jamison - 1
CB Josh Thompson - 1
DB Chris Adimora - 1
DT Ta'Quon Graham - 1
LB Ayodele Adeoye - 1
LB Juwan Mitchell - 1
S Chris Brown - 1
Foster missed a tackle trying to throw that stupid shoulder. Then he missed another tackle on the long TD run. In between those he got turned around on that slant TD. I gues technically since he got turned around so badly that it wasn't a missed tackle.
Semantics.
I was speaking of the BUY/SELL section. Those are questions ONLY when someone mistakenly puts a " ? " after their statement.
B/S is not a Q&A. Those are statements followed by your opinion. You designed it that way for a reason and it gets solid participation.
That's the only point I was making to the many out there losing sleep over the lack of receiving your opinion.
I, like everyone, enjoy 10TFTW. Goes good with my Monday cup o coffee!
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