Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (A revised Steve Earle list)
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Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
Me? El Paso. Come from a long line of ranchers, cowboys, cattle rustlers, & Sheriffs & Rangers from Alpine to Marfa to Van Horn & El Paso! Hey, does it get anymore Texan than that!? lol
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I'm not sure if I buy into the Texas failure at DT as much as you do Ketch. You're looking at the NFL and looking at Rivals DT. There has been several DE/DT types that UT has just missed out on.
There has been a few epic failures on Texas misses.
DT- Ashton Dorsey-- 4Star-- Obviously became a train-wreck under Mack Brown. Probably was going to be a NFL draft pick going off what he did his Junior season.
DT- Andre Jones -- 4Star- Kid from El Paso that had unlimited talent.. But sad story in the end.
DT- Quincy Russell- See how he works out at OU after JUCO route.
Now, let's look at the past few National Title games..
DE/DT- Damon Square- Alabama - Houston Yates : Undrafted but made Philly Eagles 53-active roster last year.
Started DE-DT for a couple of seasons for Alabama.
DE- Nosa Eguae - Auburn - Mansfield: Starting DE for Auburn Nat'l Title team. Undrafted but hanging around NFL.
DT- Kapron Lewis-Moore- Notre Dame- Weatherford: Started several seasons for Notre Dame and started in National Title game.
DE/DT- Mario Edwards- FSU - Denton Ryan.
DE- David King - OU- Bengals
DT- Tony Jerod Eddie- A&M - San Fran.
DE- STansly Maponga - TCU- Atlanta Falcons
DE- Cheta Ozougwu - RICE- New Orleans
DE- Scott Soloman - RICE- Titans.
DE/DT- Ik Enempkpali - La Tech
I know you're going to say most of these kids are DE. But, most of them are DE's in a 3/4 defense.
one of my personal favorite stories of handwork.
DT- Jimmy Saddler-McQueen - Tx A&M Kingsville - Detroit Lions. He has been on and off the 53 Roster for the past couple of seasons.
Epic failures of recent recruiting..
DT- Ashawn Robinson - almost started since Day One at Alabama. (Mack Brown let him get away).
DE/DT- Mario Edwards - Tough to beat out FSU but had a chance.
PS. The talent is in the State of Texas. You just have to go out there and find it. I'm not saying that UT shouldn't cherry-pick a few kids each year from other States or even the JUCO's to fill really needed spots.
But, without any shadow of a doubt there is enough top-line Football talent in the State of Texas to fill 80% of your roster with Texas HS scholarship kids and still have an annual Top #5 caliber football team.
Get out there across the Lone-Star State and find those diamonds in the ruff that have the right attitudes and will work hard. In a couple of years of weight gain, hardwork and COACHING you can some serious playmakers.
PS.
I can also show you the past 7 or so years of Rivals National Top 100 or 250 rankings of DT's and show you the even larger list of "Where are they now" players that for one reason or another just never lived up to their full potential in college.
I'm not sure if I buy into the Texas failure at DT as much as you do Ketch. You're looking at the NFL and looking at Rivals DT. There has been several DE/DT types that UT has just missed out on.
There has been a few epic failures on Texas misses.
DT- Ashton Dorsey-- 4Star-- Obviously became a train-wreck under Mack Brown. Probably was going to be a NFL draft pick going off what he did his Junior season.
DT- Andre Jones -- 4Star- Kid from El Paso that had unlimited talent.. But sad story in the end.
DT- Quincy Russell- See how he works out at OU after JUCO route.
Now, let's look at the past few National Title games..
DE/DT- Damon Square- Alabama - Houston Yates : Undrafted but made Philly Eagles 53-active roster last year.
Started DE-DT for a couple of seasons for Alabama.
DE- Nosa Eguae - Auburn - Mansfield: Starting DE for Auburn Nat'l Title team. Undrafted but hanging around NFL.
DT- Kapron Lewis-Moore- Notre Dame- Weatherford: Started several seasons for Notre Dame and started in National Title game.
DE/DT- Mario Edwards- FSU - Denton Ryan.
DE- David King - OU- Bengals
DT- Tony Jerod Eddie- A&M - San Fran.
DE- STansly Maponga - TCU- Atlanta Falcons
DE- Cheta Ozougwu - RICE- New Orleans
DE- Scott Soloman - RICE- Titans.
DE/DT- Ik Enempkpali - La Tech
I know you're going to say most of these kids are DE. But, most of them are DE's in a 3/4 defense.
one of my personal favorite stories of handwork.
DT- Jimmy Saddler-McQueen - Tx A&M Kingsville - Detroit Lions. He has been on and off the 53 Roster for the past couple of seasons.
Epic failures of recent recruiting..
DT- Ashawn Robinson - almost started since Day One at Alabama. (Mack Brown let him get away).
DE/DT- Mario Edwards - Tough to beat out FSU but had a chance.
PS. The talent is in the State of Texas. You just have to go out there and find it. I'm not saying that UT shouldn't cherry-pick a few kids each year from other States or even the JUCO's to fill really needed spots.
But, without any shadow of a doubt there is enough top-line Football talent in the State of Texas to fill 80% of your roster with Texas HS scholarship kids and still have an annual Top #5 caliber football team.
Get out there across the Lone-Star State and find those diamonds in the ruff that have the right attitudes and will work hard. In a couple of years of weight gain, hardwork and COACHING you can some serious playmakers.
PS.
I can also show you the past 7 or so years of Rivals National Top 100 or 250 rankings of DT's and show you the even larger list of "Where are they now" players that for one reason or another just never lived up to their full potential in college.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I get it. Just noting the interesting dynamics. Mack has an enviable skill of making people think he cares while not being 100% accessible, just like a politician.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
Steve Earle on July 3 at House of Blues in. Houston. July 5 in FT Worth.
Steve Earle on July 3 at House of Blues in. Houston. July 5 in FT Worth.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
Bottom line is the bottom line.
Not a single three star or two star "defensive tackle" prospect emerged as an NFL drafted player from 2004-11. that's an incredible truth. That's not twisted rhetoric... that's as unbiased of a measure as exists because all the NFL cares about is talent.
Finding and developing defensive tackles from other means is also an important piece of the puzzle (see Lamarr Houston, Henry Melton and Chris Whaley).
Bottom line is the bottom line.
Not a single three star or two star "defensive tackle" prospect emerged as an NFL drafted player from 2004-11. that's an incredible truth. That's not twisted rhetoric... that's as unbiased of a measure as exists because all the NFL cares about is talent.
Finding and developing defensive tackles from other means is also an important piece of the puzzle (see Lamarr Houston, Henry Melton and Chris Whaley).
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I think any Steve Earle discussion has to include Ben McCulloch. Not one of his top 5 songs but I'd think its top 10.
I think any Steve Earle discussion has to include Ben McCulloch. Not one of his top 5 songs but I'd think its top 10.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
And the rain came down? Not top ten?
And the rain came down? Not top ten?
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I'm assuming The Mountain wasn't in your available collection when making top ten list of Steve Earle tunes. You may be revisiting this ranking at a later date.
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I'm assuming The Mountain wasn't in your available collection when making top ten list of Steve Earle tunes. You may be revisiting this ranking at a later date.
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Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I too took advantage of HBO's foolishness to check out Penny Dreadful. One episode in...and I wouldn't say I'm all-in, but I'm certainly intrigued. Stellar cast for sure.
I read that this was one of Showtime's biggest ratings premieres ever. So I'm betting they're pretty close to all-in right now.
I too took advantage of HBO's foolishness to check out Penny Dreadful. One episode in...and I wouldn't say I'm all-in, but I'm certainly intrigued. Stellar cast for sure.
I read that this was one of Showtime's biggest ratings premieres ever. So I'm betting they're pretty close to all-in right now.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I'll also add..
NG- Nikita Whitlock- Wake Forest / Wylie HS.-- Rival 2 Star.
Texas 5A Defensive Player of Year. Help take Wylie to 5A Title game.
UT never even gave him a glance because he is 5-11/245 coming out of High School.
He goes to Wake Forest and is a 4 year starter and All-ACC for 3 straight seasons.
Freshman All-American too.
This was a player coming out of High School (Wylie) that was a player... Tx 5A DPOY.
Any coaching staff worth its salt could of seen him and play (I saw him vs Katy) and realize that this kid could help you out. Strong as an Ox and quick and had a motor that didn't stop.
Like I said,, Texas (Mack Brown and staff) never even gave him a glance.
There are these 2-Star and 3-Star kids out there across Texas (On defense and DL) that can play big time football. Just don't overlook them and be a coach that see and knows talent.
There was a DT several years back from East Texas that signed with North Texas. His name was Brandon Kennedy. Not many teams even gave him glance because he was 5-10/300 lbs. He signs with North Texas and becomes All-Sun Belt for like 4 years straight. I believe he was Sun Belt Defensive POY like twice.
He played against Texas, Alabama and few other big time FBS programs. Most of those O-lineman on those teams all said he was one of the toughest DT that played against all season. Only reason he aint in the NFL because his like 5-10.
If he was 3 inches taller he would be in the NFL today.
Find those kids.. There scattered across Texas. Don't knock a kid because he is 5-11 ( and not a 4-Star rated) when you can easily see he is a player.
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Sidenote:
PS. Drew Brees grew up in the shadows of UT. Texas never even looked his way because he aint 6 foot. Even though he was an All-State QB and anyone that saw him play pretty much knew he was going to be big time.
Did Texas even give Qb-David Blough (Carrolton Creekview-- Purdue) a look last season? That kid was probably the #1 overall QB in the State last year. His a great athlete, rocket arm and very accurate. Purdue just got another good one.
That kid would of probably been the best passer on Texas campus the minute he stepped on UT. Go watch some Game film of him.
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Like I said before.. The talent base is in Texas to easily put together a National Top #5 annual program.
Texas can still cherry-pick (around the nation) and (Jucos) but 80% of your power base is basically in your backyard. Go find them, recruit them.... AND COACH EM'UP !!!
I'll also add..
NG- Nikita Whitlock- Wake Forest / Wylie HS.-- Rival 2 Star.
Texas 5A Defensive Player of Year. Help take Wylie to 5A Title game.
UT never even gave him a glance because he is 5-11/245 coming out of High School.
He goes to Wake Forest and is a 4 year starter and All-ACC for 3 straight seasons.
Freshman All-American too.
This was a player coming out of High School (Wylie) that was a player... Tx 5A DPOY.
Any coaching staff worth its salt could of seen him and play (I saw him vs Katy) and realize that this kid could help you out. Strong as an Ox and quick and had a motor that didn't stop.
Like I said,, Texas (Mack Brown and staff) never even gave him a glance.
There are these 2-Star and 3-Star kids out there across Texas (On defense and DL) that can play big time football. Just don't overlook them and be a coach that see and knows talent.
There was a DT several years back from East Texas that signed with North Texas. His name was Brandon Kennedy. Not many teams even gave him glance because he was 5-10/300 lbs. He signs with North Texas and becomes All-Sun Belt for like 4 years straight. I believe he was Sun Belt Defensive POY like twice.
He played against Texas, Alabama and few other big time FBS programs. Most of those O-lineman on those teams all said he was one of the toughest DT that played against all season. Only reason he aint in the NFL because his like 5-10.
If he was 3 inches taller he would be in the NFL today.
Find those kids.. There scattered across Texas. Don't knock a kid because he is 5-11 ( and not a 4-Star rated) when you can easily see he is a player.
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Sidenote:
PS. Drew Brees grew up in the shadows of UT. Texas never even looked his way because he aint 6 foot. Even though he was an All-State QB and anyone that saw him play pretty much knew he was going to be big time.
Did Texas even give Qb-David Blough (Carrolton Creekview-- Purdue) a look last season? That kid was probably the #1 overall QB in the State last year. His a great athlete, rocket arm and very accurate. Purdue just got another good one.
That kid would of probably been the best passer on Texas campus the minute he stepped on UT. Go watch some Game film of him.
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Like I said before.. The talent base is in Texas to easily put together a National Top #5 annual program.
Texas can still cherry-pick (around the nation) and (Jucos) but 80% of your power base is basically in your backyard. Go find them, recruit them.... AND COACH EM'UP !!!
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I'll read a couple of things but out of the 10 thoughts I think maybe 3 of them interest me. Never given a hoot about UFC and no not a hair's interest in Game of Thrones. And for the life of me, I honestly have no idea how you've never done a Johnny Cash list yet somehow have a Natalie Maines one.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
Cash will take me two weeks. The challenge is daunting.Originally posted by RLong68:
I'll read a couple of things but out of the 10 thoughts I think maybe 3 of them interest me. Never given a hoot about UFC and no not a hair's interest in Game of Thrones. And for the life of me, I honestly have no idea how you've never done a Johnny Cash list yet somehow have a Natalie Maines one.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
Normally I would cut you some slack given the newborn twins but then again, Cash should have been done well before their arrival.Originally posted by Ketchum:
Cash will take me two weeks. The challenge is daunting.Originally posted by RLong68:
I'll read a couple of things but out of the 10 thoughts I think maybe 3 of them interest me. Never given a hoot about UFC and no not a hair's interest in Game of Thrones. And for the life of me, I honestly have no idea how you've never done a Johnny Cash list yet somehow have a Natalie Maines one.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
As someone who went to high school in the 60s and came of
age in the 70s, Copperhead Road is clearly a protest song that's anti-war and -injustice.
As such it's similar to songs like "Fortunate Son," by CCR, "Street Fightin'
Man," the Stones, "War Pigs," Black Sabbath,
"Born in the USA," Springsteen. And many, many more from that era..
If you served in the 60s or 70s, you knew guys that
basically went over to the dark side because they couldn't make it in "polite"
society when they got home.
For me, with only a few simple words, the song conjures up
vivid images of the War and hard men living on the margins of society. I can
hear the choppers in the background and sirens wailing. And he does it all in
the form of a ballad that really rocks.
Sometimes if you have something to say that is very
controversial you have to commercialize it to garner wide exposure. These days
an anti-war song is very much against the grain. Also, I'd bet many Steve Earle
fans became aware of his other songs and his song writing by hearing this hit
on the radio.
Also, it's a great road song. When I travel in my job, I'll
always have my Copperhead Road CD along for the ride.
Just my 2 cents
This post was edited on 5/27 11:12 AM by HornNdriftwood
As someone who went to high school in the 60s and came of
age in the 70s, Copperhead Road is clearly a protest song that's anti-war and -injustice.
As such it's similar to songs like "Fortunate Son," by CCR, "Street Fightin'
Man," the Stones, "War Pigs," Black Sabbath,
"Born in the USA," Springsteen. And many, many more from that era..
If you served in the 60s or 70s, you knew guys that
basically went over to the dark side because they couldn't make it in "polite"
society when they got home.
For me, with only a few simple words, the song conjures up
vivid images of the War and hard men living on the margins of society. I can
hear the choppers in the background and sirens wailing. And he does it all in
the form of a ballad that really rocks.
Sometimes if you have something to say that is very
controversial you have to commercialize it to garner wide exposure. These days
an anti-war song is very much against the grain. Also, I'd bet many Steve Earle
fans became aware of his other songs and his song writing by hearing this hit
on the radio.
Also, it's a great road song. When I travel in my job, I'll
always have my Copperhead Road CD along for the ride.
Just my 2 cents
This post was edited on 5/27 11:12 AM by HornNdriftwood
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
Fantastic stuff, Ketch. I did read the whole write-up on Strong through 141 days and that was excellent work.
Basically, Strong is doing all (or nearly all) the things in the off season thus far that have been desperately needed for years but had been lacking.
Fantastic stuff, Ketch. I did read the whole write-up on Strong through 141 days and that was excellent work.
Basically, Strong is doing all (or nearly all) the things in the off season thus far that have been desperately needed for years but had been lacking.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
After another day of listening to Earle and listening to suggestions made by the board....
I have revised my Steve Earle list (with a new no.1 and a couple of additions). Also, for those on Spotify, i put together the playlist with all live material. Pretty good list to follow if you're a fan.
Last five songs out: [/I]
10. Johnny Come Lately
The Orangebloods universe has spoken.
9. The Devil's Right Hand
One of three songs from the Copperhead Road album to make the list.
8. I Don't Want to Lose You Yet
A favorite of mine from his 2000 album Transcendental Blues.
7. My Old Friend The Blues
One of the first songs I listened to this week that I knew would be in the top 10 as soon as I heard it.
6. Nowhere Road
The best and most memorable song off of his Exit O album.
5. Fearless Heats
One of three songs from the Guitar Town album that make the list.
4. The Mountain
If OB poster and Steve Earle soul-mate William Arnot tells me this song is his personal No.1, then it needs to be on the list. Hell, I'll sneak it into the top five.
3. Goodbye
I think a case can be made that Train A Comin' is his second best album and I'm absolutely in love with this song from the album.
2. Copperhead Road
The signature song on his signature album.
1. Guitar Town
In a close competition, I'm always going to lean to songs that I've danced to at Dallas Night Club if we're talking country music. This was a Wednesday night special.
After another day of listening to Earle and listening to suggestions made by the board....
I have revised my Steve Earle list (with a new no.1 and a couple of additions). Also, for those on Spotify, i put together the playlist with all live material. Pretty good list to follow if you're a fan.
Last five songs out: [/I]
10. Johnny Come Lately
The Orangebloods universe has spoken.
9. The Devil's Right Hand
One of three songs from the Copperhead Road album to make the list.
8. I Don't Want to Lose You Yet
A favorite of mine from his 2000 album Transcendental Blues.
7. My Old Friend The Blues
One of the first songs I listened to this week that I knew would be in the top 10 as soon as I heard it.
6. Nowhere Road
The best and most memorable song off of his Exit O album.
5. Fearless Heats
One of three songs from the Guitar Town album that make the list.
4. The Mountain
If OB poster and Steve Earle soul-mate William Arnot tells me this song is his personal No.1, then it needs to be on the list. Hell, I'll sneak it into the top five.
3. Goodbye
I think a case can be made that Train A Comin' is his second best album and I'm absolutely in love with this song from the album.
2. Copperhead Road
The signature song on his signature album.
1. Guitar Town
In a close competition, I'm always going to lean to songs that I've danced to at Dallas Night Club if we're talking country music. This was a Wednesday night special.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
I like the revision better Ketch. Thanks for the shout out and putting the Mountain on the list, I truly believe that song can't be ignored. I sent you an email response that had the missing parts from the email I sent last night.
I like the revision better Ketch. Thanks for the shout out and putting the Mountain on the list, I truly believe that song can't be ignored. I sent you an email response that had the missing parts from the email I sent last night.
Re: Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Charlie's first 141 days)
On the defensive tackles, I went back another two years and found only Rod Wright in 2002, who was a late round draft choice. Amazing that the state of Texas is in a 10 year drought on defensive tackle prospects!
On the defensive tackles, I went back another two years and found only Rod Wright in 2002, who was a late round draft choice. Amazing that the state of Texas is in a 10 year drought on defensive tackle prospects!
The Steve Earle list had me go back to listen to some of his stuff. I will reiterate that Ellis Unit One is a fantastic piece of songwriting, told from the perspective of a man who left the service and followed his father and uncles into being a prison guard tasked with execution duty. Some of the lyrics:
Well, I've seen 'em fight like lions, boys
I've seen 'em go like lambs
And I've helped to drag 'em when they could not stand
And I've heard their mamas cryin' when they heard that big door slam
And I've seen the victim's family holdin' hands
Last night I dreamed that I woke up with straps across my chest
And something cold and black pullin' through my lungs
'N even Jesus couldn't save me though I know he did his best
But he don't live on Ellis Unit One
Well, I've seen 'em fight like lions, boys
I've seen 'em go like lambs
And I've helped to drag 'em when they could not stand
And I've heard their mamas cryin' when they heard that big door slam
And I've seen the victim's family holdin' hands
Last night I dreamed that I woke up with straps across my chest
And something cold and black pullin' through my lungs
'N even Jesus couldn't save me though I know he did his best
But he don't live on Ellis Unit One
