Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Questions, questions and more questions...)
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I'm saying he wasn't the failure of a coach you think he is. The majority of starters on last year's team were Herman recruits (developed by Sarkisian and his staff). Let's not put him in the Strong category.
Thanks, my friend. I'm not making a Herman vs. Sarkisian comparison. That's silly. I'm just saying Herman was a "good" coach at a job where the requirement is to be "great."
Except Barnes created the most success in the history of the basketball program.
very true. But that program always dripped with more meat left on the bone. Texas might be be the best basketball state in the nation now and there was just an hint of underachievement when looking at the big picture.
It's ok to say that Tom did some good to very good things while still acknowledging that a change needed to be made.
I think its dishonest to state that The Eyes was the only issue that:
a. Turned off money people
b. Turned off fans.
c. Turned off recruits.
d. Made his job managing the team much more difficult.
Totally agree. Also think Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, while maybe not a great movie, was a brilliant concept and pretty well executed. Plus Rachel Ward in her prime was a major smoke show.
It was the word "dishonest" that triggered me. I. Must. Stop. Responding. Football season cannot get here soon enough.
Certainly didn't mean to trigger you, but I just don't think you can remotely have a conversation about Tom's downfall without including this incredibly significant development in his final season.
It started with his march with the players to the capital and only got worse from there.
Apologies.
No worries. Glad we got Sark. I'll go back go worrying about DT.
Historically, players of his physical/rating profile pan out at much higher rates than WR/CB.
I think you should also judge him on his performance at FAU. If he is a good coach, he would do better than 4-8 and 8th in a very weak conference. A very good coach would build a winning culture and field good teams. Let’s see if he can do that before defining him as a good coach.
He was headed for a major train wreck at Texas. Recruiting was sucking, his players and coaches resented his arrogant behavior and his personal life was in shambles. All of these factors help define you as a coach. At this point, it would be a huge stretch to define Herman being a good coach.
I mean... should Sark be completely judged by year one at Texas when he went 5-7?
No and he wasn’t judged by hardly anyone after one year. Herman should also have 3 more years. I do hope he turns the program around. It would be a great success story. But he needs to do a lot of self-reflection that I don’t think he’s capable of. I hope I’m wrong for his own personal satisfaction. Humility is a virtue.
I do think we can give him credit for his success at Houston and Texas, and not only what happened early on at FAU.
I agrée. I give him an A+ at Houston, a C at Texas, and an incomplete at FAU. I think we only disagree about his grade at Texas. By comparison I give Charlie an F (although he gets an A for character) and Sark an A. It’s easy to grade Sark now that we’re winning but his plan has clearly worked. As long as he recruits well, we should be in the playoffs most years. That’s an A program regardless of championships IMO.
