Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Is this the GOAT UT hoops team?)
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I would tend to side with you in that argument, but he can carry on the culture set by Beard, staff put in place, and the recruiting class (that he was instrumental in signing).
You are correct though. The reset button gets hit almost annually with respect to the players on the court. Terry (and any other coach) will have his work cut out for him, but he's not starting from scratch.
He's never proven to be good at that part of the job.
Where would you rank terry among Big 12 coaches?
You're right that this is one of the all time great Texas teams, and also right that their ultimate place in history will be determined by how far they go in the tournament.
They certainly aren't the most talented Texas team ever (Not even close. Is there a future 1st round pick anywhere on the roster?), but they might be the deepest team in school history. The Final 4 team only went about 7-8 players deep and the 2006 team went about 6 players deep. This team legitimately goes 9 guys deep. They are the only Texas team ever that could win 3 games in 3 days with one of their most important players missing the whole tournament.
And if we are ranking Texas teams, the 2000, 2004, and 2012 teams all rank easily ahead of Shaka's 2021 team, despite what any regular season AP poll says.
They certainly aren't the most talented Texas team ever (Not even close. Is there a future 1st round pick anywhere on the roster?), but they might be the deepest team in school history. The Final 4 team only went about 7-8 players deep and the 2006 team went about 6 players deep. This team legitimately goes 9 guys deep. They are the only Texas team ever that could win 3 games in 3 days with one of their most important players missing the whole tournament.
And if we are ranking Texas teams, the 2000, 2004, and 2012 teams all rank easily ahead of Shaka's 2021 team, despite what any regular season AP poll says.
So, Tango & Cash, Demolition Man, and Cobra just didn’t happen?
That's fine. Its qualifications for being mentioned were the qualifications.
sad to think what might have been if Beard hadn't melted down.
This MBB team didn't use their situation to let up and no matter what they do in the Tourney (although I think they do a lot) they have to be admired for sticking together.
This MBB team didn't use their situation to let up and no matter what they do in the Tourney (although I think they do a lot) they have to be admired for sticking together.
Originally, I thought that even if Terry wins it all, he wouldn't get the hire for next year. But, what marquee coach is "relatively" available right now? I saw some blurb earlier about some of the elite names you might want to think about having big buyouts right now. Are CDC and the powers that be shrewd/cold enough to hire Terry next year with an extremely short leash to wait on a more reasonably affordable blue-blood type coach? I don't know. I haven't been able to watch the team this year because I've been a jinx. Every game I watched, they lost. I watched part of the last Kansas game of the season and during the few minutes I watched, UT only scored 2 points and had several turnovers, so I turned it off for the good of the team. Of course, they turned on the jets and pounded KU after that.
I like Rocky IV better than Rocky. Ducking.
There must be something wrong with me because when I watch Sanders I don’t see a “great player” yet, but his stats say he was very good. Something about his game just hasn’t made me get out of my seat yet. This year will be interesting.
Something tells me hiring Terry would end up a mistake even if he gets to the elite 8 or more, although I know there will be pressure to name him HC. I just don’t think his career record is a coincidence….ten times.
I think this BB teams defense can carry it far, but if the shooting doesn’t improve, they’re toast. Putting the aggy at 7 to force this matchup is weak sauce. I mean c’mon. In general there were several very suspect decisions made by this committee. Agendas galore. But hey it’s a gauntlet no matter how you slice it, so let’s roll.
Your man crush on Lamont is impressive. Best Lamont since Sanford and Son?
There must be something wrong with me because when I watch Sanders I don’t see a “great player” yet, but his stats say he was very good. Something about his game just hasn’t made me get out of my seat yet. This year will be interesting.
Something tells me hiring Terry would end up a mistake even if he gets to the elite 8 or more, although I know there will be pressure to name him HC. I just don’t think his career record is a coincidence….ten times.
I think this BB teams defense can carry it far, but if the shooting doesn’t improve, they’re toast. Putting the aggy at 7 to force this matchup is weak sauce. I mean c’mon. In general there were several very suspect decisions made by this committee. Agendas galore. But hey it’s a gauntlet no matter how you slice it, so let’s roll.
Your man crush on Lamont is impressive. Best Lamont since Sanford and Son?
Sanders may be the most talented, but Thomas will always have the incredible natty game on his resume…tough to top in Longhorn lore.
Rocky may be the GOAT, but Rocky III is the most watchable Rocky movie and better than the others.
Rocky may be the GOAT, but Rocky III is the most watchable Rocky movie and better than the others.
a. I like Rocky IV more as well. It's just not No.1.
b. Sanders isn't great yet. Texas just hasn't had many great tight ends. Was David Thomas truly great or very, very good?
c. agreed.
d. Bank on experience when you get to the Tournament.
e. yes, easily.
a. Sanders may leave him in the dust from a numbers standpoint with a big season.
b. It does have Mr. T and none of the other movies can claim that.
Rocky ……. I’d rather watch women’s figure skating than any of the movies after the first one. Creed was ok. And to think people on OB complain about the Marvel Universe.
I think it is wrong to think Sanders is in the same league as David Thomas until he makes big catches in a game that means something. Thomas caught 10 passes in the NC game. Guy was a rock. Not saying Sanders is not a better athlete than anyone we have had at TE, but get back to me when he has the accomplishments to match his potential.
Agree that Sark does not have as much rope left as the OP would give him. Sark had a huge direct role in our losses to TCU and OSU last year. 49 passes in the high wind in Stillwater when Quinn was missing receivers badly and only 12 touches by the best RB in the country are indefensible. Sark has to be better or he will be gone.
This is the best team since TJ's team. We have more scorers and all around good players than we have ever had. But TJ was a singular talent, the national player of the year. Obviously, we have no one in his league on this team, but we have more scoring options than that team had. Going to get interesting.
Agree that Sark does not have as much rope left as the OP would give him. Sark had a huge direct role in our losses to TCU and OSU last year. 49 passes in the high wind in Stillwater when Quinn was missing receivers badly and only 12 touches by the best RB in the country are indefensible. Sark has to be better or he will be gone.
This is the best team since TJ's team. We have more scorers and all around good players than we have ever had. But TJ was a singular talent, the national player of the year. Obviously, we have no one in his league on this team, but we have more scoring options than that team had. Going to get interesting.
I thought the Rocky list was YOUR list. No? Why would you rank Rocky first then?
I may just have nostalgia bias with Thomas vs Sanders, but yeah there just hasn’t been much to write home about. Jermichael was the most freaky athletically, no?
Guard play and experience seem to run the tourney, so Texas should be a favorite.
Rocky losing made this movie perfect. Before Rocky you always expected the hero to win. One of my favorite movies of any genre of all time.
Sanders needs 754 yards and 10 TD‘s just to tie Thomas‘ career records…not impossible but a challenge…of course he would blow away Thomas if he came back as a senior but that’s unlikely. He also will not likely get to play in a natty like Thomas. Sanders is probably the most talented TE ever, but Thomas will always have a special place in Longhorn lore.
Rocky III also has Eye of the Tiger, the Rocky statue, Mickey dying, the BEST training sequence, Rocky wearing Creed’s US flag shorts, and the fantastic ending with Rocky and Creed swinging at each other. Perfection.
It's my list, but not it's hard for me to believe that anyone can objectively not rank the first Rocky No.1.
Even now, it's unusual for the star of the film to lose.
a. He's not going to likely top him in career numbers, but his best two seasons will be better than anyone else's best two seasons by potentially a lot. Imagine what he can do with good quarterback play.
b.. The best montages are in IV.
