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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Jonah Williams.... the most important 5 star?)

You can take whatever you want with a grain of salt, but you don't have any idea of who we talk to and what they will or won't tel us.

Your right. I don’t know who you talk to or what they will or won’t tell you. But can you tell me that you are 100% certain that they tell you everything that happens (or doesn’t happen for that matter) with the QBs?
 
Good one.

Agree. Of the players listed that we had seriously considering us, Pettijohn, Williams, Terry and Moore feel like the four from the group that would have the greatest chance to become immediate impact players in year one.

Moore was the #1 difference maker for TX in this class. Worthy played well as a freshman and became a 1st rd pick. Wingo may follow a similar path.. Moore would have been next imo.

Next is arguably Williams. But reasonable arguments can be made for RP and MT. Fasusi is so awesome it shouldn't be ruled out that he couldn't enroll early and surprise early. But it would be against the odds to beat good OL players with 2 extra years of development.

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Glad to continue reading praise for the TX D. But I can't drink the TX run D kool-aid yet. I need to see our run D vs Michigan.

I am sipping on our improved pass rush kool-aid. TX adding Moore and Simmons. Getting Vasek healthy. Another year of development for other defenders. New nascar package. Adding Nansen.
 
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For me, for an injury to be a “significant loss”, it has to show on the field. If the position room is deep with other talented players stepping up and probably being as good or better than the injured player then it’s unfortunate for the injured player but not a “significant loss” for the team.
I think Young could have had an NFL career like Priest Holmes. He was that good pre-injury. The team had a deep roster of running backs, so in that sense it wasn't as much as loss as some other position would be. But Texas and the NFL missed out on seeing a great rb.
 
Can we just let Dak go to the Raiders and start over. I really don’t care to hear all the doomsday who do we get things and great things and stats about Dak and save the Jerry Jones comments, I’m just done. I’m ready for a new relationship.
 
LB - Riley Pettijohn (Rivals) - The Longhorns are scheduled to return only four scholarship linebackers from the current roster in 2025 and only Anthony Hill feels like a sure-fire starter. If he can beat out Deiron Gullette and Tyanthony Smith, the starting weakside linebacker job could be his.
I thought Smith has been one of the biggest surprises in camp this year. Seems like he will be hard to keep out of the starting lineup next season.
 
I would feel much better about some of the offers knowing they’re doing it with 25 more scholarships available.
 
@Ketchum what do you mean: . “For some reason, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce played in the pre-season…”

What the hell more reason do you need than their head coach, who’s won 3 Super Bowls, thinks they should play to get ready for the season? Everyone else should probably follow his lead.
 
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With less than two weeks to go before the season-opener against Colorado State, I found myself thinking about three weeks ago a lot this weekend.

The twins weren't in school yet and The Olympics were just revving up. Perhaps most important to the conversation we're about to engage in, the 2024 Texas Longhorns hadn't yet suited up for a single practice.

In thinking about those Stone Age days from July, I found myself wondering about what we were pondering before training camp began and what the best hopes of the Orangebloods universe might have sounded like.

"No big injuries."

Yikes. We're just not going to focus on this subject too much, but I'd contend the injury universe could look much worse. Just knock on wood and say your prayers that the injury gods take it easy on Steve Sarkisian's team moving forward.

"I hope to hear the defense is better and that the secondary isn't going to be ranked in the 100s this season."

Let's talk about this one. Through the first two major scrimmages of training camp, the Texas defense has generally been the side of the ball that has walked away being viewed as an unofficial victor. That's not to say that the defense has dominated the proceedings in a way that you would need to worry about the offense, but it has been the better side of the ball in each of the last two Saturdays.

We know this offense is going to be somewhere between good to very good this season at a minimum. The quarterback play is talented and proven enough that it has a WWE championship belt on a wall somewhere right now after last season's Big 12 Championship game. Meanwhile the skill players ooze talent and the offensive line is expected to be one of the best in the country.

Yet, it's the defense that has had the advantage in early head to heads.

The edge play goes five or six exciting players deep. Anthony Hill looks primed for a fantastic season. Perhaps more significant is the fact that a defensive backfield that couldn't stop a running faucet of water at times last season is more than holding its own as the season nears. That group's play on Saturday was so high that some observers believed it was the unit's best day of practice this year. Full stop.

You're not going to see me overreact to what's happened, but if I had asked each of you what you'd hope to be reading on August 18th in this column, reports that the defense isn't getting punked all over the field (especially in the passing game) would have been high on a lot of wish lists.

Well, here we are. Malik Muhammad has settled into one outside corner spot in his second season. Jaylon Guilbeau has seemingly improved the level of play at the Star position to such an extent that Jahdae Barron is getting the chance to explore the outside. Meanwhile, his competition for that starting job (Gavin Holmes) just had the best week of his entire Texas career. The safety play has seen four players mix in and out with the first-team defense, with two of those players being second-year (former) super blue-chip prospects and the other being a former three-year starter for Clemson.

The coaches believe that the talent/play in the secondary was the problem with the pass defense last season, not the scheme or coaching. The roster has been turned over in a way that suggests that the personnel should be much, much better this season.

So far, the play on the field is backing that up in a resounding way.

As far as zero-sum games are concerned, the one that has the biggest problem area from last season's national semifinalist operating a level that might just have it at camp MVP-levels through the first two-plus weeks can't be a bad central talking point at the time of this column.

If you're asking me, it's a development that has me more bullish on this season than I was a mere three weeks ago.

No. 2 - Scattershooting on the first two full weeks of practice ...

... We're almost three weeks in and there hasn't been a single Arch Manning freak-out day after any single practice? Color me shocked.

... The more I think about it, the more I like Jaydon Blue as a first-team all-SEC player this season.

... If I had told you a year ago that Juan Davis might have a very serious role to play on a national title-contending team, what would your response have been?

... I have a sneaking suspicion that sophomore Jelani McDonald might be the best young player on the team that very few are talking about. That kid is huffing and puffing on the doors for serious playing time at safety.

... Attaboy to senior cornerback Gavin Holmes for turning in his best week of practice in a Texas uniform at a moment when it kind of looks like fellow senior Jahdae Barron might just box him out of a job. If Barron beats out Holmes, it won't be because Holmes didn't put up a serious fight. By all accounts, Holmes has risen to the challenge.

... No one behind the scenes seems to be screaming bloody murder over any punt game issues. I guess everything is ok there.

No. 3 - Most Important 5-stars???

With a pair of 5-stars in Michael Fasusi and Jonah Williams set to announce their college decisions (with three-plus months to go) in the coming week, I found myself thinking about the very deep set of 5-stars inside the state of Texas this year and which players would rank the highest based on immediate projected needs in the Texas program for the 2025 football season.

Given that some prospects would hit the field more quickly than others and each of those prospects has a different long-term historical value when it comes to producing elite players, I thought it might give us an idea of which five-star is absolutely the most valuable to the Texas football program.

Let's count out the 5-stars:

QB - Keelon Russell (Rivals/247)
WR - Dakorien Moore (Rivals/On3/247/ESPN)
WR - Kaliq Lockett (247)
OL - Michael Fasusi (Rivals/247/ESPN)
OL - Ty Haywood (On3/247)
LB - Riley Pettijohn (Rivals)
DB/LB - Jonah Williams (Rivals/247/ESPN)
CB - Devin Sanchez (Rivals/On3/247/ESPN)
Ath - Michael Terry (On3/247)

Here are the historical draft rates of in-state 5-stars

QB: 83.3%
WR: 40%
OL: 33.3%
LB: 60%
DB: 50%

Let's quickly give a thumbnail of the immediate playing time outlook for each player.

QB - Keelon Russell (Rivals/247) - Three-year wait because of the presence of Arch Manning.

WR - Dakorien Moore (Rivals/On3/247/ESPN) - Possible true freshman starter, but would need to climb over older, possibly very proven, established starters.

WR - Kaliq Lockett (247) - Probable back-up on the outside for the Longhorns next year IF you believe that Ryan Wingo and Johntay Cook will have positions strongly secured. If either falters, a possible pathway opens up.

OL - Michael Fasusi (Rivals/247/ESPN) - Second-year tackle Trevor Goosby is viewed as a future star at left tackle, which means that starting in year one at his natural position feels unlikely. Could Fasusi come in and push possible returning starter Cam Williams, third-year returnee Andre Cojoe or second-year fellow five-star Brandon Baker? No, if Williams returns, but a slight maybe if he departs? He would really need to beef up over the next 12 months and probably need Cojoe/Baker to stall out.

OL - Ty Haywood (On3/247) - See Fasusi. Not really worthy of a big breakdown because the Longhorns were not a factor in his recruitment.

LB - Riley Pettijohn (Rivals) - The Longhorns are scheduled to return only four scholarship linebackers from the current roster in 2025 and only Anthony Hill feels like a sure-fire starter. If he can beat out Deiron Gullette and Tyanthony Smith, the starting weakside linebacker job could be his.

CB - Devin Sanchez (Rivals/On3/247/ESPN) - Texas wasn't a factor in his recruitment.

DB/LB - Jonah Williams (Rivals/247/ESPN) - It probably comes down to where the Longhorns project him. As previously mentioned, he would need to beat out only Gullette and Smith to possibly win the WILL linebacker job. The depth at safety next year is a little steeper with the likes of Derek Williams, Michael Taaffe, Jelani McDonald and Xavier Filsaime set to return in 2025.

Ath - Michael Terry (On3/247) - Maybe he wouldn't start in 2025 (at least not right away), but he feels like a guy that could help the team right now in 2024 because of his skill at running back and as an H-back type of receiving option.

Of the group of players listed above, Pettijohn, Williams, Terry and Moore feel like the four from the group that would have the greatest chance to become immediate impact players in year one, with Pettijohn and Williams probably standing out from that mini-pack.

Considering the historical values between the two positions (linebacker and defensive backfield) are pretty close, it might come down to which of the two you simply prefer more than the other. Only Rivals has Pettijohn ranked as a 5-star, while three different services have Williams as a 5-star.

Feels like Williams might be the call and he announces this week ...

No. 5 - You might not want me to say this ...

As I was thinking about the injuries at running back in the last two weeks, I started thinking about some of the biggest and most important injuries over the course of the last 30 years that occurred in the preseason.

You know what? Outside of a bunch of wide receivers and a few running backs, it was really hard to remember many.

Here's what I came up with when trying to make an all-time Pre-season Injury Team

QB - Shea Morenz (Right ankle 1992)
RB - Roosevelt Leaks (Knee 1974)
RB - Priest Holmes (Knee 1995)
WR - Jordan Shipley (Knee/Hamstring 2004/2005)
WR - Isaiah Neyor (Knee 2022)
WR - Troy Omeire (Knee 2020/2021)
TE - Bo Scaife (Knee 2000)
OL - Patrick Hudson (External Heat Issues 2018)
OL - Junior Angilau (Knee 2022)
OL - Russell Gaskamp (Back 1997)

DE - O.J. McClintock (Arm and hand 2001)
LB - Matt Jones (Knee 1995)
LB - DeGabriel Floyd (spinal stenosis 2019)
CB - Willie Mack Garza (Knee 1989)
S - Ishie Oduegwu (Shoulder 2008)

Dare I say that Texas has historically been pretty .... nah ... I'm not going to say it.

No. 5 - Updated Texas Scholarship Board ...

Here's how things look following the decommitment from Kade Phillips on Sunday afternoon.

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No. 6 - Question I've been wanting us to ask Sark ...

Have the Longhorns already started to recruit with an eye on a 105-man scholarship limit for the 2025 recruiting class.

Hopefully, we can get an answer to that this week.

No. 7 – Longhorns rookies in pre-season week two ...

Here's a quick rundown of how each rookie Longhorn in an NFL training camp did this weekend in pre-season games:

RB - Jonathon Brooks - Is expected to be activated off of the PUP list sometime this month.

RB - Keilan Robinson - Didn't receive any action in Jacksonville's loss to Tampa Bay.

WR - Jordan Whittington - Well on his way to making the final roster after catching another team-best five passes for 52 yards.

WR - Xavier Worthy - Caught three passes for 62 yards and a touchdown in first-half action against the Lions.

WR - Adonai Mitchell - Didn't catch any passes on Saturday, but is already being talked about as one of the steals in the class by local media types.

TE - Ja'Tavion Sanders - Took advantage of a couple of injuries at the position and impressed with two catches (on two targets) for 22 yards.

OL - Christian Jones - Has had a pretty decent camp thus far, but had an awful sequence in the first half of the second pre-season game when he committed four holding penalties in the first half.

DT - Byron Murphy - Continues to earn rave reviews in Seattle.

DT - T'Vondre Sweat - Didn't really see anything reported on him from camp this weekend.

LB - Jaylan Ford - Plays Sunday night against the 49ers.

CB - Ryan Watts - Led the team in tackles against the Bills and appears to have a very good chance of making the squad.

No. 8 – BUY or SELL …

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(Buy) Yeah, I think so. Not by much, but just a little.



(Sell) I reserve the right to change my mind, but I think the challenge will be tougher now than ever before and I'd be lying if I said I still didn't have some questions about just how good he really is. I'm more of a believer now than I used to be, but I give that type of benefit of the doubt very carefully.



(Buy) It's about to come apart at the seams with the Cowboys. I can feel it in my bones.



(Sell/Sell/Sell) I think there will be four this year instead of three and Bolden is in that group for certain, but he's not going to lead the SEC in all-purpose yards because that's going to be Jaydon Blue.



(Buy) Yes, and a little luck.



(Sell) The A&M game is going to be a bear, man. It's naive to think otherwise in my estimation.



(Buy) I prefer a combination of Blue and anyone over any combination without Blue.



(Buy) Who is saying OU will have an elite defense? What do they mean by elite? They have two combined players on the 1st and 2nd-place All-SEC pre-season list.



(Sell) Anwar is our lead team reporter. It's HIS job. There are no drawing straws. ;)



(Buy) Whatever incompetence the SEC brings, it won't be able to match the Big 12's level of incompetency.

No. 9 – Scattershooting all over the place …

... I kind of enjoy watching Trey Lance play football. I don't know what it means or what I'm even saying, but he's fun.

... It feels next to impossible to believe that any team in the NFL could have a worse quarterback situation than the Raiders. Gardner Minshew? Aidan O'Connell? Yikes.

... How unimportant is pre-season football in the NFL? The Falcons didn't suit approximately 40 players for their game against the Ravens. FORTY.

... For some reason, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce played in the pre-season ... so Mahomes did this.


... And then Kelce tried to explain it by doing his best Mahomes impersonation.


... Sleep won out over watching UFC 305, but it sounds like Dricus Du Plessis did the damn thing in the main event.

... Premier League Opening Weekend Musings: Thought Man City, Liverpool and Arsenal looked like the class of the opening set of games, with Aston Villa right behind them. Mo Salah and Bukayo Saka were the class players from the first weekend of games. Everton looking like a steaming pile of waste was pleasing. Overall, I put in 10+ hours of viewing on the first weekend, so I guess I was ready.

... You gotta believe there's at least one more Inside Out left in the franchise after Inside Out 2 became the top-grossing animated film of all time, including domestic, international and combined at $1.626 billion. Amy Poehler should be able to buy Rhode Island when it's all said and done after her next contract.

No. 10 – The List: The Incomparable Otis Redding

This one comes from a request via the Otis Redding thread from this weekend.

It doesn't matter that I did a Redding Top 10 a little more than 26 months ago. Anything that gives me a reason to soak in a few days of Redding is a good thing in my book. Plus, I've felt like making a few tweaks since the last time I took on this particular list.

Two things that I don't think I've shared before ...

a. I first fell in love with Otis when I was 11 years old and I heard "These Arms of Mine" in the movie Dirty Dancing. It's probably my favorite song of all-time. My only complaint is that it's only 2 1/2 minutes long.

b. I own nine different original paintings by Robert Hurst, but the very first one that I purchased from him was this commissioned piece.

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Ok, let's get down to the list ...

Last Five Out: That's What My Heart Needs, Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa (Sad Song), Respect, Love Man and Hard to Handle

10. Mr. Pitiful

Didn't make my list 26 months ago and that needed to be fixed.

9. For Your Precious Love

Otis wrote a lot of great songs, but some of his best work occurred when he covered someone else's work.

8. That's How Strong My Love Is

Another song that didn't crack my Top 10 once upon a time and that has been corrected.

7. Pain in My Heart

You give Otis a girl that he can't find and he's going to turn into a song here he the agony of his need for her love is going to pour out.

6. Change is Gonna Come

There's only one person on the entire planet that I allow with permission to sing this song outside of Sam Cooke and its Otis. The two things that both men had in common was the ability to dig into a deeper place to find the music and never is that more apparent than in what both men give to this song. It's a haunting performance.

5. Satisfaction

It's a hell of a thing to suggest that someone can out-Stones the Stones, but Otis is at his out-of-his-mind-with-the-music best with one of the most iconic songs ever written. Man, what I wouldn't give to have seen Otis do a show with the Stones.

4. Try a Little Tenderness

The song starts so controlled and so tender, as Otis paints a picture that would make Michael Angelo blush. Then, as if motivated by a moment in life once lost, he takes us to church, imploring all of us to take the leap. It's an entire generation's blueprint for what to do in the backseat of a car. P.S.: Make sure and watch the video clip of this life performance because he literally drops the mic and leaves the stage.

3. (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay

For all of the flair he could give any song, his music was often most beautiful when controlled by its amazing simplicity. A few days before he died in a plane accident, he finished recording a song that began with him relaxing on a boat near the San Francisco Bay, writing/singing about life. Little known fact: everyone knows that the song ends with Redding whistling, but had he lived he planned on returning to the studio and finishing the song with words.

2. I've Been Loving You Too Long

Whatever a human can give of himself into a song, that's where Otis sends himself in this all-time classic. It is one thing to say the words and it's quite a different thing to live and breathe them until your mind is at its end, which is what this song is all about … all-out exasperation. Legend has it that his performance of this song at the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival (see above) left Jimi Hendrix in awe.

1. These Arms of Mine

I consider this song music perfection. It's probably my favorite song of all-time and whatever my musical soul is created with, it's at the epicenter. There's just so much powerful emotion packed into such a simple song, as if he's able to channel the souls of desperate, broken men. My all-time top five song list will change from mood to mood, but this song is never removed from the No. 1 spot.
'That's how strong my love is," is such a great song. I love it when the Stones play it live, but no one does it like Otis.
 
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Your right. I don’t know who you talk to or what they will or won’t tell you. But can you tell me that you are 100% certain that they tell you everything that happens (or doesn’t happen for that matter) with the QBs?
I think it matters that we don't rely on any single source to be THE source. Having numerous sources allows us to vet all angles.

It's that way with the entire team. The quarterbacks are easy to report on for the most part.
 
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Good one.

Agree. Of the players listed that we had seriously considering us, Pettijohn, Williams, Terry and Moore feel like the four from the group that would have the greatest chance to become immediate impact players in year one.

Moore was the #1 difference maker for TX in this class. Worthy played well as a freshman and became a 1st rd pick. Wingo may follow a similar path.. Moore would have been next imo.

Next is arguably Williams. But reasonable arguments can be made for RP and MT. Fasusi is so awesome it shouldn't be ruled out that he couldn't enroll early and surprise early. But it would be against the odds to beat good OL players with 2 extra years of development.

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Glad to continue reading praise for the TX D. But I can't drink the TX run D kool-aid yet. I need to see our run D vs Michigan.

I am sipping on our improved pass rush kool-aid. TX adding Moore and Simmons. Getting Vasek healthy. Another year of development for other defenders. New nascar package. Adding Nansen.
Good stuff.
 
I think Young could have had an NFL career like Priest Holmes. He was that good pre-injury. The team had a deep roster of running backs, so in that sense it wasn't as much as loss as some other position would be. But Texas and the NFL missed out on seeing a great rb.
Holmes was the best back in football for a couple of years. High praise.
 
I thought Smith has been one of the biggest surprises in camp this year. Seems like he will be hard to keep out of the starting lineup next season.
There's a difference between showing early signs of being good and being a plus-starter for a top 5 team. He's not anywhere close to the latter... yet.
 
@Ketchum what do you mean: . “For some reason, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce played in the pre-season…”

What the hell more reason do you need than their head coach, who’s won 3 Super Bowls, thinks they should play to get ready for the season? Everyone else should probably follow his lead.
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No spoilers, but have you seen The Leftovers and/or heard "I've got dreams to remember".
 
Ketch,
You are correct on the two quarterbacks we lost in ‘77 were after the season started.
 
Dare I say that Texas has historically been pretty .... nah ... I'm not going to say it.
I wonder if there's a correlation here, i.e., guys who suffer season-ending injuries are probably much more likely (especially in the past) to basically lose a shot at a high-caliber career. So yeah - season ending injuries tend to happen to players who we then forget about because most of them don't end up getting a legit shot in college again.
(Sell) I reserve the right to change my mind, but I think the challenge will be tougher now than ever before and I'd be lying if I said I still didn't have some questions about just how good he really is. I'm more of a believer now than I used to be, but I give that type of benefit of the doubt very carefully.
I always say this: if you're offered a bet "will this coach win a national championship", with extremely few exceptions, the betting answer should always be no. Even if that coach has already won one in the past, it is MUCH more likely for that coach to fall off than it is for that coach to maintain that standard.

I think the only coach right now that I would not bet against is Kirby Smart, and that is because he has the preseason #1 team this year, he's already won 2 in the last 3 years (and finished top 5 last year), and he's young. But even then it's probably much closer to a 50/50 than people think, especially with the expanded playoff format. Not only do you need to have the best team in the country, but you need to avoid 4 upsets in what might be a bunch of 50/50 to 60/40 matchups if you make the playoffs.

For a coach that hasn't won one (or even the guys who won one somewhere else like Brian Kelly)? Immediately betting against all of them. Sark, Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, James Franklin, Dan Lanning, Kalen DeBoer, Lane Kiffin, Mike Norvell, Dabo, Josh Heupel, Skeletor up in Norman, Mario Cristobal, Elko - like, most of the next 5 national championships will likely come out of this group, but if you're betting on any one of these guys being the guys that gets it, your odds are probably way lower than 50%.

And I think it's not all about how good a coach you are. Or to put it differently, you have two tiers of coaches:
  • The ones that are so good at building a complete roster top to bottom chock full of production - and these are the guys that are much more likely to win because they don't need any one player to be a superstar
    • Harbaugh, Saban, Meyer. These are the guys that will win you a title with Chris Leak, AJ McCarron and JJ McCarthy.
  • The ones that need a superstar - including the ones that didn't deserve a title but hit it big enough with a big enough superstar (see: Jimbo, Chizik)
 
I wonder if there's a correlation here, i.e., guys who suffer season-ending injuries are probably much more likely (especially in the past) to basically lose a shot at a high-caliber career. So yeah - season ending injuries tend to happen to players who we then forget about because most of them don't end up getting a legit shot in college again.

I always say this: if you're offered a bet "will this coach win a national championship", with extremely few exceptions, the betting answer should always be no. Even if that coach has already won one in the past, it is MUCH more likely for that coach to fall off than it is for that coach to maintain that standard.

I think the only coach right now that I would not bet against is Kirby Smart, and that is because he has the preseason #1 team this year, he's already won 2 in the last 3 years (and finished top 5 last year), and he's young. But even then it's probably much closer to a 50/50 than people think, especially with the expanded playoff format. Not only do you need to have the best team in the country, but you need to avoid 4 upsets in what might be a bunch of 50/50 to 60/40 matchups if you make the playoffs.

For a coach that hasn't won one (or even the guys who won one somewhere else like Brian Kelly)? Immediately betting against all of them. Sark, Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley, Brian Kelly, James Franklin, Dan Lanning, Kalen DeBoer, Lane Kiffin, Mike Norvell, Dabo, Josh Heupel, Skeletor up in Norman, Mario Cristobal, Elko - like, most of the next 5 national championships will likely come out of this group, but if you're betting on any one of these guys being the guys that gets it, your odds are probably way lower than 50%.

And I think it's not all about how good a coach you are. Or to put it differently, you have two tiers of coaches:
  • The ones that are so good at building a complete roster top to bottom chock full of production - and these are the guys that are much more likely to win because they don't need any one player to be a superstar
    • Harbaugh, Saban, Meyer. These are the guys that will win you a title with Chris Leak, AJ McCarron and JJ McCarthy.
  • The ones that need a superstar - including the ones that didn't deserve a title but hit it big enough with a big enough superstar (see: Jimbo, Chizik)
Completely agree.
 
4 holding penalties in one half by Christian Jones. 4?!? That is Phil Pozderak like. This reference will show one’s age.

I will always remember that game. On Pozderak’s 4 holding call the ref literally said Pozder and corrected himself instead of calling out his number. At least that’s what I thought happened after all these years.
 
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