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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (More talented than the team that got Mack fired?...)

Therein lies the problem at UT, Texas should always be without reproach. And we should be able to win championships too! What starts here should change the world!
wha starts here hasn't changed the world in a long time in the world of sports.

Yet, what started under Penders did change the world around here.
 
1. 2020: senior Cade Brewer/sophomore Jared Wiley/sophomore Malcolm Epps (5 points)

Relative to the other years, this position warrants an exemption to be awarded 8 points.
 
No way is '17 behind '10 at QB.
Gilbert was on a lot of pre-season All-Big 12 lists that year (much like Ratler this year for OU).

The expectations going into the year were higher for sophomore Gilbert than sophomore Buechele.

Period.
 
1. 2013: junior Malcolm Brown/sophomore Jonathan Gray/junior Joe Bergeron (5 points)
2. 2020: junior Keaontay Ingram/sophomore Roschon Johnson/freshman Bijan Robinson (4 points)

Personally I would flip the 2.
 
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... Third-year offensive lineman Reese Moore is entering his third season on the 40 Acres and doesn't really seem to be on the verge of cracking a dent on the two-deep in 2020. I'm not sure that's a surprise, given his position, profile and the jump he's making in competition, but if the light switch doesn't start to flip on in the 2021 off-season, it's going to start feeling like he might have been a lottery ticket that's not going to be cashed in.

Yep. There was a lot of hope but thru this point we don't even hear about. I mean, there is patience, and then there is being completely unspoken about this far in.
 
Wow! Can't decide if you're getting dumber or I'm getting smarter @Ketchum but I agreed with all your yearly rankings. When I had doubt, your Quickie Thoughts were spot on.
I'm still thinking about Penders. I loved me some Luke Axtell.
Gilbert's first impression will always be my first thought of him though. His first game in college it seemed that 90% of his passes were at the receivers shoe laces but I didn't see him in high school so can't disagree with you.
Great column. One of your best.
Thanks
 
Personally I would flip the 2.
This year's group didn't have more hype and expectations than Brown and Gray had coming off the 2012 season when the trio returning had nearly 2000 yards of offense and 25 touchdowns combined.

JMO. It's close.
 
Yep. There was a lot of hope but thru this point we don't even hear about. I mean, there is patience, and then there is being completely unspoken about this far in.
No doubt.
 
Wow! Can't decide if you're getting dumber or I'm getting smarter @Ketchum but I agreed with all your yearly rankings. When I had doubt, your Quickie Thoughts were spot on.
I'm still thinking about Penders. I loved me some Luke Axtell.
Gilbert's first impression will always be my first thought of him though. His first game in college it seemed that 90% of his passes were at the receivers shoe laces but I didn't see him in high school so can't disagree with you.
Great column. One of your best.
Thanks
Thanks for the kind words. Glad folks liked it.
 
Meh. Only 5. No big deal. Let them win 6 in a row then perhaps we can talk.
Of all things in the world that we can do,. I'm not sure giving them too much credit is one of them.

We can overhype them for sure. But, too much credit?
 
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a. Penders was involved in the release of a player's grades to the media in an effort to sully the kid's rep.

b. There were allegations that Penders used to call players late at night when he'd had a few.

In addition to releasing the grades, wasn't it false info. Stating the grades were worse than they really were. Maybe that was a false rumor?
 
a. Penders was involved in the release of a player's grades to the media in an effort to sully the kid's rep.

b. There were allegations that Penders used to call players late at night when he'd had a few.

Chico told me some zingers about Penders. Hilarious. Good to see him getting the positive recognition he deserves....Runnin’ Horns...those were some fun times.
 
Chico told me some zingers about Penders. Hilarious. Good to see him getting the positive recognition he deserves....Runnin’ Horns...those were some fun times.
Mostly disappointing over thew years, but always worth a watch.

The recent teams are just disappoitning.
 
Or Jamaal Charles. Neither has been shunned from the school for the last two decades.

Well, last I checked neither were involved in the possible violation of federal law putting the school in a pickle. If there's a reason either Augustin or Charles should have been shunned then I'm all eyes. ;)
 
Well, last I checked neither were involved in the possible violation of federal law putting the school in a pickle. If there's a reason either Augustin or Charles should have been shunned then I'm all eyes. ;)
One if just a slightly more notable event than the other IMO based on the very breaking of federal laws you're discussing.

When we get closer to the actual event, you better believe we'll celebrate those that didn't break federal laws.

But, that feels like burying the lede in the here and now.
 
2010 team finished 5-7
2013 team finished 8-5
2015 team finished 5-7
2017 team finished 7-6

For the sake of Longhorn fans, there will be no comparing the results of this 2020 team to those previous squads.
 
2013 RBs over 2020 RBs is insane.
Not even a little.

Again, you had two five stars and another back combining for more than 2,000 yards and 25 touchdowns from a pretty decent 2012 team.

Gray was a pre-season second-team All-Big 12 selection. No back on the current team can claim that,
 
2010 team finished 5-7
2013 team finished 8-5
2015 team finished 5-7
2017 team finished 7-6

For the sake of Longhorn fans, there will be no comparing the results of this 2020 team to those previous squads.
That's the scary part.
 
Not even a little.

Again, you had two five stars and another back combining for more than 2,000 yards and 25 touchdowns from a pretty decent 2012 team.

Gray was a pre-season second-team All-Big 12 selection. No back on the current team can claim that,
Who cares that they were 5 stars in HS? Neither of them showed up looking like 5 stars. Double who cares to the 2nd team all-conference votes.

2020 has two guys who averaged over 5.3 ypc, both of whom looked better than any of the 2012 backs, and adds the best HS RB in the country.
 
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Honestly, my memory of some of the details isn't as sharp as it used to be.

Here's a look at the lawsuit between Penders and Oran.

http://a.espncdn.com/ncb/news/2002/0809/1416088.html

Here's one on what happened.

https://www.gwhatchet.com/1999/08/23/the-best-little-scandal-in-texas/

Thanks. My memory is pretty good on the details from that era. Short term......not so much.
One of the many reasons I don't like Roy Williams, he tried to make Luke into something he was not & ruined him. I coached for quite a number of years and you have to work with a players natural tendencies to get the best out of them.
 
Who cares that they were 5 stars in HS? Neither of them showed up looking like 5 stars. Double who cares to the 2nd team all-conference votes.

2020 has two guys who averaged over 5.3 ypc, both of whom looked better than any of the 2012 backs, and adds the best HS RB in the country.
when it comes to the perception that we had of the backs in real time before the 2013 season, it matters a lot.

For the same reasons that giving the current team value for the presence of Bijan.

It matters.

Your opinions of them in 2020 don't.
 
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