Tom Penders BMW teams were one of the first reasons I started wanting to attend UT. Loved that cocky SOB!
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what is UT's record against OU in the last three years under Herman.I think you give Ou too much credit always, but especially this year. We should beat them this year. We have better players. But you seem to put them on a pedestal when our games with them have been very close and competitive.
You are ignoring that the 2013 group also had a five-star returning to it in Malcolm Brown with regards to being healthy... yanno... the best player in the 2013 group.LOL. Yes, the numbers are screaming at me. the '12 group with 3 guys totaled 2k yds & 25 TDs. The '19 guys with 2 guys totaled less than 100 fewer yds, and 18 TDs. And now it's adding a 5-star RB. They are screaming. Pretty sure you aren't listening.
You're sorta spiraling out of control now with all sorts of ifs, and butts.
Did Penders tell his secretary to fax one of his player's grades (Luke Axtell) to Bill Schoening at KVET to get even with Axtel, or at least harm him, then deny any involvement, then let his friend and assistant Eddie Oran take the blame for this? That's my recollection. If so, then yes that is hard to forgive.But, is this one of those things?
Hard, no doubt.Did Penders tell his secretary to fax one of his player's grades (Luke Axtell) to Bill Schoening at KVET to get even with Axtel, or at least harm him, then deny any involvement, then let his friend and assistant Eddie Oran take the blame for this? That's my recollection. If so, then yes that is hard to forgive.
There were lots of rumors. It was bad at the end.I've heard that Penders had a habit of drunk dialing his players and critiquing their games, sometimes on long voicemails.
Yeah man...Terrific column in all respects. That last picture...
I'm comparing the 2020 team compared to those teams based on how we viewed those position groups COMING INTO THOSE SEASONS.I don't see how the 2020 team could be compared yet with out playing any games. You basis is on 2019 numbers which is a different team
Sam was sacked 8 times. They replaced 4/5 O lineman and we never got to Jalen.I think you give Ou too much credit always, but especially this year. We should beat them this year. We have better players. But you seem to put them on a pedestal when our games with them have been very close and competitive. Last year Sam threw three passes that hit receivers in the hands, any one of which would have been a TD or very close. If play makers had made plays we would have won that game. Two years before we lost by a TD when Kris Boyd failed to either catch or deflect a ball that was thrown right to him that, instead, went for a TD. These games were close, competitive, and turned, not on dominance by Ou, but a couple of plays that went their way. They are not unbeatable as shown by their pathetic performance against LSU.
It's not that I don't understand that they have had the upper hand during the last few years when Texas football has been at an all time low. It is that I don't expect us to stay at our lowest point continually.
Has he apologized?Hard, no doubt.
20 years = hard.
more than that feels like a b it of a life sentence. Is that set of actions worth that?
I don't feel like it. At some point, I think moving on if possible isn't an awful idea.
I have to think things have been made good before this step could be taken.Has he apologized?
I don’t want to beat this to death. I just think he threw two subordinates, presumably his friends, Eddie Oran and his own secretary under the bus to try to save himself but I haven’t thought much about it or looked into it since it happened. We can just disagree on this.I have to think things have been made good before this step could be taken.
What I saw---with my own eyes---was worse than any of this. Penders was not a good representative of the University. Leave it there.Hard, no doubt.
20 years = hard.
more than that feels like a b it of a life sentence. Is that set of actions worth that?
I don't feel like it. At some point, I think moving on if possible isn't an awful idea.
I just haven't had it explained to me what the statute of limitations on something like that is.I don’t want to beat this to death. I just think he threw two subordinates, presumably his friends, Eddie Oran and his own secretary under the bus to try to save himself but I haven’t thought much about it or looked into it since it happened. We can just disagree on this.
I'd guess you didn't see more than me. It would be hard to. I was in it. But, it's been 20+ years.What I saw---with my own eyes---was worse than any of this. Penders was not a good representative of the University. Leave it there.
They seem to like their OL, even with the losses.Sam was sacked 8 times. They replaced 4/5 O lineman and we never got to Jalen.
what is UT's record against OU in the last three years under Herman.
how many conference titles has OU win in a row?
Just to be clear, Texas was down by two touchdowns with five minutes to go in last year's game, right?
I'm going to need you define what very close is because like the LSU game a year ago, I think Texas fans romance the shit out of losses.
I didn't say they weren't competitive.Sorry, but I respectfully disagree with your view point that Texas has not been competitive in the last three RRS against Ou. .