I just don't think elite play-callers grow on trees. It has to be proven that he can hire someone more capable than himself.
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I just don't think elite play-callers grow on trees. It has to be proven that he can hire someone more capable than himself.
I just don't think elite play-callers grow on trees. It has to be proven that he can hire someone more capable than himself.
can he? Are we sure?
DKR called plays.
I'm not looking it up. No offense to the discussion. Knock yourself out, but I'm working on other things.Yes. So back to the question at hand. How many total HCs call plays?
CTH wasn’t hired as an OC. He was hired as a HC. He didn’t call plays at Houston. Why would Fenves and Perrin believe that he will call plays in Austin?
I don't know about the guy he is asking about but is higher always a profile guy? Could he aim higher without getting a "name" and get the right fit? In either case I guess it's a crap shoot.Texas needs to aim higher.
I am inclined to believe that, as a play caller, at best, Beck is a work in progress and at worst he just sucks at it. I don't think we can afford either at this point.There exist technology that allows communication between the HC on the sidelines and the OC who is usually in the box, getting a better view of the overall defensive opposition. It usually makes more sense for the person with that improved perspective to call plays. They, on average, see a clearer view of what the defense is and how it can be better attacked. Should the HC on the sidelines see something and want to call a play, the technology allows him to do so. The HC and the OC should be on the same page. Most of the time, the HC should be in sync with what his OC is calling. If not, there is a bigger problem to be fixed. With all of our hand-wringing this year, I'm not sure if there ever existed a lack of communication between Herman and Beck. It looked more like the offense they wanted and tried to install in the off-season couldn't be executed by the personnel that they had. Let's hope with a year of more familiarity with their players, they will make adjustments for next season.
I am inclined to believe that, as a play caller, at best, Beck is a work in progress and at worst he just sucks at it. I don't think we can afford either at this point.
I'm not looking it up. No offense to the discussion. Knock yourself out, but I'm working on other things.
BTW, it's absolutely laughable that you put Oklahoma in that category. Laugh out loud funny.
Agreed, good postI certainly appears that way. I also think that the overall offensive scheme that Herman and Beck were married to last season just weren't aligned to the personnel. I think Herman went into the season thinking he had much more to work with on offense that he did. Looking at the Maryland game:
He thought Shane could run his offense - behind the OL. That turned out to be a big miss read.
He thought the OL was going to be serviceable, or even a positive. That turned out to be a big miss read.
He thought Chris Warren was going to be his go-to running back. That turned out to be a big miss read.
I'm just not sure what to make of the WR's. Sitting in their shrink wrap, they sure look shiny. None of them seemed to show more than a flash during the season. That may be because of the other offensive issues.
Anyway, I hold Herman accountable for going into the season with a misconception of the level of talent at his disposal on offense. Also, I am disappointed that he wasn't able to make corrections during the season. He has had last season, and this off-season to get a reality check. I think there can be real improvement if he schemes an offense to match what he will be working with next year. I still have faith he will get there. But, expectations need to be tempered. I think a 9 win season next year will be enough for me to show continued progress. 2019/2020 is when things should start to click -- especially if he continues to recruit the way he has.
Why do you think TH is hesitant to call plays as HC?
I certainly appears that way. I also think that the overall offensive scheme that Herman and Beck were married to last season just weren't aligned to the personnel. I think Herman went into the season thinking he had much more to work with on offense that he did. Looking at the Maryland game:
He thought Shane could run his offense - behind the OL. That turned out to be a big miss read.
He thought the OL was going to be serviceable, or even a positive. That turned out to be a big miss read.
He thought Chris Warren was going to be his go-to running back. That turned out to be a big miss read.
I'm just not sure what to make of the WR's. Sitting in their shrink wrap, they sure look shiny. None of them seemed to show more than a flash during the season. That may be because of the other offensive issues.
Anyway, I hold Herman accountable for going into the season with a misconception of the level of talent at his disposal on offense. Also, I am disappointed that he wasn't able to make corrections during the season. He has had last season, and this off-season to get a reality check. I think there can be real improvement if he schemes an offense to match what he will be working with next year. I still have faith he will get there. But, expectations need to be tempered. I think a 9 win season next year will be enough for me to show continued progress. 2019/2020 is when things should start to click -- especially if he continues to recruit the way he has.
Less than 2% would translate to less than 2.Less than 2% of HC would be my guess. And there's a reason for that.
If the head coach is going to call plays because his OC isn't capable and the HC doesn't want to fire him, then the HC needs to be fired.what if that turns out to not be on the table?
Just for discussion sake, then what would you prefer?
huh?@Ketchum You like Anderson over Tucker? Give me the P5 guy over the Rice guy. Tucker seems more likely as well. But of course both would be best.
Thought it was pretty clear. You said Anderson was the most important recruit of 2018. So you like him over Casey Tucker (more likely guy at this point and a P5 player vs. a Rice player)?huh?
By a 100-foot pole.Thought it was pretty clear. You said Anderson was the most important recruit of 2018. So you like him over Casey Tucker (more likely guy at this point and a P5 player vs. a Rice player)?
Article on Dan Mullen being able to do both.
https://www.clarionledger.com/story...r-and-head-coach-mississippi-state/707991001/
Scott Frost calls his own plays.
Hugh Freeze called his own plays.
Chip Kelly will call plays. And Jimbo. And Riley.
But, yeah, keep believing that only coaching unicorns are doing it.
Willie Taggert is calling plays at FSU and he's not even going to pretend to hire an OC.
The notion that a tiny, tiny amount of head coaches with offensive backgrounds is calling plays is beyond laughable. It's no longer worth entertaining.
ok 2%.It's a tiny, tiny amount. The discussion from coaching panel during the national championship game happened, whether you like to admit it or not.
You know what else happened? Tom Herman saying he didn't want to do it, then gave multiple reasons.
You don't entertain the things that work against your narrative.
ok 2%.
You don't have any idea what the real number is, guessed out a dumb number and still keep on swimming up shit creek without a paddle.I like that you sat there and posted this, as if the number is 5%, it gives you a victory.