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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Shaka is a damn good coach)

Got to hand it to you, you really are careful with your words. In that context then yes he is a good coach. Just like every kid in HS who receives a power five basketball scholarship is a good basketball player. You were smart in not quantifying that he is a damn good COLLEGE basketball coach. By making that distinction you would have to compare him side by side to the other damn good college coaches. At least this way you can claim he is in the top 1% of all amateur coaches, as opposed to not being remotely close to a top 20 college basketball coach.
He's a damn good college basketball coach.
 
Shaka had success in the past and has struggled here, and those are the facts.

All I know is that I hope he succeeds here because I like Shaka, and because I want our team to be good and win. It's that simple for me.

To answer one of Ketch's questions, I think AJ would have been worth 2-3 more wins, but I also don't think we beat TCU the first time because we were actually riding the emotion of his diagnosis that night. So that would put us at 17-18 wins right now.

This conference is brutal. The standings show how evenly matched the teams are. One more win would have us tied for 5th, and two more would have us tied for 3rd.

Here's to hoping we have a strong enough finish to make the tournament. If we do, I have a strange feeling that this will be a battle-tested team that might just make it to the second weekend.

Hook 'em!
 
Good stuff Ketch. I like your first part on Coach Smart. I think sometimes we expect too much from a coach and forget about the team he has and who they have to play. He's working with a lot of 1st year kids and having to play a schedule of top team in the country. Not just top teams in the Big 12 but in the country. I think he has done a hell of a job. If the NCAA would ever get their crap straight about how long a kid has to stay in school, if he chooses to go to school, then the college game would be a lot more fun for the fans. This one and done crap isn't beneficial for the basketball programs at the universities and it certainly isn't beneficial for a lot of the kids who mistakenly leave early and think they will make big money. It's time for a change.
 
To be honest, you called him a “damn good coach”. If you are saying he is a good coach based on 20+ wins at VCU, associated with USA basketball, and kept UT tournament hopes alive without AJ, then I don’t know if the 14 pages of reaction would be as hostile. Saying he is a damn good coach goes too far IMO.

You reference in follow up that he must be top 50 since he is in P5. To me, damn good coach would put him in top 10-15, and I don’t see that with my eyes watching him coach at UT for three years.
I articulated his failures and hangups in the article.

He hasn't proven to be better than damn good. Damn good at Texas isn't damn good enough.

Rick Barnes was damn good.
 
Is it?

They could have picked anyone. You think they chose a bad one on purpose?

No me thinks that the people that know a lot about basketball and view him very highly is a decent argument.
You're side stepping the argument that winning in a tournament is different from winning in a full season at a power 5 program. They picked someone that is good for winning short run tournaments with a product that is relatively unknown like Shaka.

Now you aren't making a bad argument. You are being intentionally obtuse, which is annoying.
 
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I articulated his failures and hangups in the article.

He hasn't proven to be better than damn good. Damn good at Texas isn't damn good enough.

Rick Barnes was damn good.

One of those coaches is not like the other; at least based on performance at Texas.
 
Bwahahahahahaahaha. Best troll job ever.

Shaka has recruited very well, no question about that. The flip side. His offense is childish. His defense isn't much better. He is famous for a full court press, that he never uses at Texas.

I want to like Shaka, just like I wanted to like Charlie. And I want him to be successful.

But the man gets less results out of more talent than anyone in the conference. And its not close.

Did you see the bigs OU played against us. With those guys, we would go winless in the conference. That's why we beat OU. That and Young was in his first shooting funk and never broke out. That's a team that has lost 5 in a row and 8 of 10. And based on that remarkable turn of events, you dug up his prior record and propped him up as a great coach..

Let me just say again. Bwahahahaha. Charlie had a great record in a meh conference as well.

Next year will tell. No Bamba. No more excuses of being young since we will start 3 seniors. Matt Coleman better turn into TJ Ford or you wont ever get to post about BB again.

Let me say this. I hope you are right, because I love BB. I hope my lying eyes are just blinded by the product I have watched the last two years.

@LonghornBuc

Kenpom has the UT defense ranked 5th in the nation.
 
One of those coaches is not like the other; at least based on performance at Texas.
It depends on the starting and finishing line. The Barnes at the end wasn't the Barnes in the beginning or middle.
 
Gotta give it to Ketch on this thread and previous ones like it such as the Taylor Doyle thread. He crafts his arguments well and there’s a business reason behind it that I haven’t figured out yet. Boosts average pin thread response to entice sponsors? Idk but I like it
 
Gotta give it to Ketch on this thread and previous ones like it such as the Taylor Doyle thread. He crafts his arguments well and there’s a business reason behind it that I haven’t figured out yet. Boosts average pin thread response to entice sponsors? Idk but I like it
I like doing good work. That's the business end.
 
2 weeks until WHAT big night? The oscars? That's a big night? You gotta be kidding us?!
 
You have a weird habit of labeling your opinion as the truth. You picked a bunch of stats that paint a positive picture. There are plenty that can be picked that paint a very negative picture.

When you take a highly subjective and largely meaningless statement like “is someone a good coach”, you can offer any number of facts on either side. Good compared to what? Our last coach? Reasonable expectations? An objective and results-based analysis? Performance relative to the talent on the roster? Performance relative to preseason expectations?

Your incredibly condescending and frankly bizarre habit of making definitive statements and then acting indignant when anyone disagrees is tiresome. I’m out.



This is exactly correct, but SJW does not, and will not see it.
 
You have a weird habit of labeling your opinion as the truth. You picked a bunch of stats that paint a positive picture. There are plenty that can be picked that paint a very negative picture.

When you take a highly subjective and largely meaningless statement like “is someone a good coach”, you can offer any number of facts on either side. Good compared to what? Our last coach? Reasonable expectations? An objective and results-based analysis? Performance relative to the talent on the roster? Performance relative to preseason expectations?

Your incredibly condescending and frankly bizarre habit of making definitive statements and then acting indignant when anyone disagrees is tiresome. I’m out.

Clinic.
 
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At Texas, Shaka has yet to prove he is even “Barnes at the end.”
Rick had a 16-18 season towards the end. Didn't win in the Tournament. Didn't win a conference title. Fell apart late annually.

He's at least there, which isn't good enough.
 
I like doing good work. That's the business end.
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It would be a clinic if he actually addressed any specific part of the column.

Instead, he spoke in generalities with zero supporting commentary.

But, yeah... clinic.
 
He's a damn good college basketball coach.

He is the definition of an average power 5 coach.

His record at a power 5 school is 47-46, which statistically is an almost perfectly average record.

He is the 5th best coach in a 10 team league.

When ranking all coaches from power 5 schools, he falls somewhere in the 20-30 area. Out of 65 schools, that sounds pretty average.

So what tangible evidence are you using that justifies him being an above average power 5 coach? You obviously do not want to discuss his X's and O's to prove your point, so lets compare him with his peers.
 
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