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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (The Big 12 is soooooooo weak)

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How'd you do a "10 Thoughts", include Brad Kaaya, and not mention that his momma is none other than Angela Means, the one and only "Felicia" from Friday?

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Texas sealed their fate in this conference for the near to medium term with the grants of rights out to 2025. There is no way this conference exists after that unless China buys Disney and decides their number one mission is to keep the Big 12 intact by throwing a huge amount of money at it.

In other words, it's not going to happen.

At this point my bet would be the Big 10 as the landing spot, but what that would look in terms of divisions I have no idea. I've seen a 4 pod time of alignment thrown out this year, where there are 4 pods of 4 teams each, with a home and home among the teams in the pod, and then a rotating schedule among the other 3. Don't know if that's what it ends up being, but I could see that working better than two divisions.

But that means 7 years of bitching from you and everyone else. I don't completely understand anyone who wants to defend the Big 12 over the long term. It's a shitty conference. We knew it was a shitty conference when Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri, and A&M departed. West Virginia was the best looking fat girl in the room who doesn't even live close by, and TCU was a step backwards. They brought nothing in terms of media markets. They're a small private school. Yes, competitively they've done well, but they're a bad addition when it comes to media rights. It's the last days of the Southwest Conference all over again.

But we're stuck with it. Nothing is going to get done until then. We'll have the Longhorn Network in the meantime, which under Tom Herman has already become a more compelling product. If anyone hasn't watched the latest All Access, do yourself a favor and do so. That's its potential being realized. Texas just needs to dominate this conference the way they dominated the SWC under Royal. In 7 years I want to see a majority of conference titles. OU can be the Arkansas. The rest of the programs shouldn't matter except as cockroaches.

The SWC had 4 private schools plus Cougar High and Texas Tech. The Big 12 has a similar lack of resources in Iowa State, KSU, KU, Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU. West Virginia is similar. And if OSU didn't have their version of Phil Knight, you could put them in there as well.

The only thing that could change things, is if somehow paying football players directly and/or player unionization/collective bargaining is forced upon colleges, which would lead to some kind of bifurcation of college football. I predict in that scenario UT would opt out. It would be a massive day zero event, after which nothing would ever be the same.
I think the decisions will be made before the expiration, but we're talking five years of being stuck before a light might emerge in the tunnel.
 
Let's pile on the Big 12 draft even more, Temple and a couple other mid-level teams had more draftees than UT and other conference teams. UNC (Chatlotte) had one DL drafted, and their program is only four years old. The Big 12 has to be better. Can't wait for Herman to make the that trend turn back the right way.

I'll help. Wyoming had more players drafted than Texas. Wyoming.
 
I think the decisions will be made before the expiration, but we're talking five years of being stuck before a light might emerge in the tunnel.
The best thing they can do in the interim is be what Florida State was in the ACC in the 90's. The ACC was pitiful in the 90's, and FSU dominated a weak conference, and nobody really gave a shit because they won alot and put people in the NFL.
 
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And what does this (the lack of respect for the Big 12) say about Texas high school talent, which we have always thought of as the best in the nation?

Pretty obvious what it says in my opinion. Also, probably part of the reason we've sucked for the past 7 years. TH clearly understands this given his recruiting thus far.
 
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I think UH had more drafted than OU. One of y'all will come up with the number. But I think that number will speak well for TH and his staff.
 
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And what does this (the lack of respect for the Big 12) say about Texas high school talent, which we have always thought of as the best in the nation?
It means Texas has to win to keep those 5 stars out of Ohio,Alabama ,Lsu and Fla.A strong Texas,Okla homa and a couple others will restore our prestige
 
The best thing they can do in the interim is be what Florida State was in the ACC in the 90's. The ACC was pitiful in the 90's, and FSU dominated a weak conference, and nobody really gave a shit because they won alot and put people in the NFL.
Yes, if we have a CFP-worthy track record and wreck shop in the B12 then the program will speak for itself. Last I checked FSU still plays in the ACC and are still a perennial producer of wins and talent, despite any and all conference lulls it's been faced with.

The B12 hasn't seen UT show up in years, but it's about to get a much-needed shot in the arm. How the other B12 schools react is up to them. In the meantime, let's take 'em to the shed, how it has always been meant to be.
 
Great write up, especially the number crunching. Sad to say that Mike Williams will never get to play in San Diego thanks to greedy team ownership ( Spanos is an ass ).
 
With every passing day the brain trust that wants Texas regional and in a SWC II is dying off ( sorry to be morbid). The 30's 40's and 50 yr olds that are becoming the bulk of longhorn support wants to win big but they also want a better product for their ticket/entertainment dollar.... tcu , baylor and Iowa st ain't moving the old needle anymore. With one good non conference game and the only big time school played at a neutral site the doomsday clock is ticking. I fully expect OU to start trying to apply pressure to Texas about moving. OU has been winning and they are further out the door than Texas at this point.

It's over, what happened over 3 NFL draft days will be used against Texas and OU in ways you can't imagine.
 
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Before I get into my annual nerdy number-crunching from the NFL Draft, you’ll have to forgive me for climbing on top of one of my favorite soap boxes.

This can’t wait.

Here goes … the Big 12 is soooooo weak.

One of the things that was impossible to not notice over the course of a three-day window on Thursday night was just how little respect the NFL has for the players in the Big 12.

Consider the following ...

* The conference's Doak Walker Award winning running back was the No. 97 pick of the draft and went in the third round.

* Two of the best skill position players in the history of the Oklahoma program (Sam Perine and Dede Westbrook) didn’t get drafted until day three.

* Only one damn defensive player in the Big 12 was drafted in the first five rounds/in the first 192 picks of the draft. ONE!!!

* No Big 12 offensive linemen were drafted in the first 243 picks in the draft. Baylor’s Kyle Fuller saved the league from being shut out by being the only lineman drafted at pick No. 244 in the seventh round.

* Forty-three percent (6 of 14) of the players drafted from the Big 12 went in the final two rounds.

* Oklahoma was the only school in the conference to have more than two players drafted.

When those of us with really loud mouths scream bloody murder about the conference suffocating from a lack of natural resources in the talent bed department, these are the type of results that we’re constantly warning about.

My sense in talking to Texas decision-makers over the course of this decade has always been that the financial advantages, along with the competitive advantages that exist in theory if the Longhorns can ever get good again, make the conference an attractive place for those that don’t want to be remembered in history as someone that helped change college athletics forever by pushing the school out of the league for a more attractive collection of partners.

The Big 12 is comfort for those that are apprehensive about the unknown.

While I understand where those seeking comfort are coming from, even in the best of times, no one wants to build a mansion in a trailer park and that’s exactly the position in which Texas finds itself. Overall, only 14 players (two per round or one every 18 picks) from the conference were selected in the draft, the lowest in the history of the Big 12, breaking the previous low of 17 from three years ago.

Nothing about this is an accident. This is the present and there’s very little reason to believe that the future will be any different outside of whatever Texas and Oklahoma can create from year to year.

It’s just so uninspiring.

Ok, I’ll get off my soapbox and move on to other things, but allow me to say one more word about the conference before moving on.

Yuck.

No. 2 – Nerdy Draft Stuff ...

In an effort to hold on to some of you that might get lost in the numbers crunching, I’m going to do my best to keep this from getting too numbery (did I just make up a word?).

A few things that need to be established.

1. There are currently 128 FBS programs playing college football in 2017, which means there are 10,880 scholarship players in college football if every school has maxed out its 85-man scholarship limit.

2. From 2012-2014 (the three classes that almost exclusively made up the 2017 NFL Draft Class), Rivals.com rated on the average 3,803 players per year (including JUCO and prep schools), with the average star distribution breakdown looking like this:

Five stars (6.1): 33.67
Four stars (6.0): 42.67
Four stars (5.9): 69.67
Four stars (5.8): 218.33
Three stars (5.7) 302.67
Three stars (5.6) 411.00
Three stars (5.5) 617.33
Two stars (5.4) 889.00
Two stars (5.3) 593.67
Two stars (5.2) 619.00

With those numbers serving as the foundation of the average Rivals.com recruiting class numbers over a three-year window, let's break down what the numbers look like over the course of all seven rounds of the NFL Draft this year, beginning with a look at the numbers in the first round:

Five stars (6.1): 10
Four stars (6.0): 3
Four stars (5.9): 3
Four stars (5.8): 3
Three stars (5.7) 4
Three stars (5.6) 5
Three stars (5.5) 1
Two stars (5.4) 0
Two stars (5.3) 1
Two stars (5.2) 0
Two stars (5.1) 0
Unranked: 2

Here's what that translates to when you crunch the numbers:

a. 30.30-percent of five-star (6.1) prospects were drafted in the first round.
b. 7.03-percent of high-four star (6.0) prospects were drafted in the first round.
c. 4.30-percent of mid-four star (5.9) prospects were drafted in the first round.
d. 1.37-percent of low-four star (5.8) prospects were drafted in the first round.
e. 1.32-percent of high-three star (5.7) prospects were drafted in the first round.
f. 1.22-percent of mid-three star (5.6) prospects were drafted in the first round.
g. 1.37-percent of low-three star (5.5) prospects were drafted in the first round.
h. 0.00-percent of high-two star (5.4) prospects were drafted in the first round.
i. 0.17-percent of mid-two star (5.3) prospects were drafted in the first round.
j. 0.00-percent of low-two star (5.2) prospects were drafted in the first round.

The thing that just jumps out you is the incredible prominence of five-stars in the first round, as nearly a third of all players drafted were among the top 0.85-percent of all players that are ranked in the Rivals rankings.

Translation: 31.35 percent of the first-round pie was comprised of the top 0.85-percent of all players ranked by Rivals.

By five country miles, it represents the highest volume of five-star prospects going in the first round of the draft in the history of the Rivals rankings.

Now let’s take a look at the top three rounds.

Five stars (6.1): 20
Four stars (6.0): 9
Four stars (5.9): 9
Four stars (5.8): 13
Three stars (5.7) 12
Three stars (5.6) 14
Three stars (5.5) 8
Two stars (5.4) 8
Two stars (5.3) 1
Two stars (5.2) 5
Unranked: 9

Here's what that translates to when you crunch the numbers:

a. 59.40-percent of five-star (6.1) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
b. 21.10-percent of high-four star (6.0) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
c. 12.92-percent of mid-four star (5.9) prospects were drafted in the first round.
d. 5.96-percent of low-four star (5.8) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
e. 3.97-percent of high-three star (5.7) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
f. 3.41-percent of mid-three star (5.6) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
g. 1.30-percent of low-three star (5.5) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
h. 0.90-percent of high-two star (5.4) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
i. 0.17-percent of mid-two star (5.3) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds.
j. 0.81-percent of low-two star (5.6) prospects were drafted in the first three rounds

Now let’s take a look at all seven rounds.

Five stars (6.1): 28
Four stars (6.0): 13
Four stars (5.9): 11
Four stars (5.8): 35
Three stars (5.7) 26
Three stars (5.6) 28
Three stars (5.5) 27
Two stars (5.4) 15
Two stars (5.3) 8
Two stars (5.2) 8
Unranked: 34

Here's what the translates to when you crunch the numbers:

a. 83.16-percent of five-star (6.1) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
b. 30.47-percent of high-four star (6.0) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
c. 15.79-percent of mid-four star (5.9) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
d. 16.03-percent of low-four star (5.8) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
e. 8.59-percent of high-three star (5.7) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
f. 6.57-percent of mid-three star (5.6) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
g. 4.37-percent of low-three star (5.5) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
h. 1.69-percent of high-two star (5.4) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
i. 1.35-percent of mid-two star (5.3) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.
j. 1.29-percent of low-two star (5.6) prospects were drafted in one of the seven rounds.

No. 3 – The Big Takeaways ...

After nearly a decade of crunching recruiting rankings within the NFL Draft, here are the two themes that prove to be true each year and nothing changed this year.

First, in terms of producing the highest of the high-end talent in the draft (first round), five-star prospects generate at first round rates that are 10-15 times the rate of four stars, 30-40 times the rate of three stars and 80-150 times the rate of two stars.

The margins when you get into the different variations of the star rankings will differ slightly from year to year, but typically the rates double or triple every time you drop between one star to the next.

Second, in terms of producing talent over the course of all seven rounds, five-star prospects generate at 4-5 times the rate of four stars, 15-20 times the rate of three stars and 40-60 times the rate of two stars.

Again, the margins within very specific variations of each star ranking might differ slightly from year to year, but you can safely triple or quadruple the rates every time you drop from one level of star ranking down to the next one when talking about drafted players.

It’s getting to the point that I can set my watch by the results, even if the five-star category performed at a historic level, which it did.

No. 4 – D’Onta’s decision proves to be the right one …



All along, I’ve felt like D’Onta Foreman needed to be drafted in one of the first three rounds to strongly justify his decision to turn pro and when the Houston Texans scooped him up in the third round on Friday night, it was hard to imagine the decision working out better, with all due respect to the added cash that he would have netted if drafted earlier.

From Texas City to the University of Texas to the Houston Texans, you can just feel the symmetry.

On top of that, it’s probably a perfect spot for him to fall from a depth chart standpoint. While Lamar Miller is a decent No. 1 for the Texans, he averaged a career-low 4.0 yards per carry last season and could use someone to share the workload.

His primary competition for that role is Alfred Blue, who is a former sixth-round pick and the definition of a JAG in the NFL.

It shouldn’t take Foreman more than 15 minutes in training camp to take Blue’s spot, which should create a very nice year one role for the Doak Walker Award winner.

This isn’t a stop the presses prediction, but I fully expect Foreman to be the starting tailback in 2018.

No. 5 – Buy or sell …

BUY or SELL: Texas has 8 or more players drafted in a single draft within the next 5 drafts?

(Buy) If you’d set the number at 7.5, I’d take the over, but if you set it at 8.5, I’d take the under.

BUY or SELL: The 2016 and 2107 NFL drafts are proof positive that nothing can be as devastatingly ineffective as the combination of Mack Brown recruiting and Charlie Strong coaching?

(Buy)
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BUY or SELL: Texas has more than 20 players drafted over the next 5 drafts, starting with the 2018 draft. Some of those kids aren't even on campus, but the development they receive and the evaluation ability of this staff is a huge improvement over the last seven seasons?

(Buy) I feel like someone hooked up the Kool-Aid Off-season Drip in an IV to my arm.

BUY or SELL: Holton Hill has the type of season that could have him in "Day 2" draft consideration in 2018?

(Buy) Yup, I’m hooked up to the drip.

BUY or SELL: Charlie's guys have fully bought into Herman by now?

(Buy) No one is ever going to bat 1.000 on this type of deal, but I have to believe Tom is in the 90s.

BUY or SELL: Malik Zaire saying he'll announce after ND graduation (before SEC spring meetings) means that Anwar is underestimating the chances of Zaire to Texas?

(Sell) I don’t feel like Anwar or anyone on the staff is underestimating the chances. In fact, he was pretty vocal in expressing that he challenged his source from the Zaire camp on the sincerity of the interest and they gave strong indications that the interest was very serious. Tom Herman and Tim Beck are not to be underestimated.

BUY or SELL: Three or more different RBs start games this season because of injuries or otherwise?

(Buy) A whole lot of injuries and otherwise.

BUY or SELL: Andrew Jones comes back for his sophomore season?

(Sell) I just don’t have a positive vibe on his return.

BUY or SELL: The Cowboys defense will be better than last year's unit?

(Buy) If you’re giving the field or the bottom three in a bunch of important categories, I’ll take the field. It can’t be much worse than a season ago.

BUY or SELL: The Anwar Richardson Texas curse is real?

(Sell) I reserve the right to change my mind. One more season of sub-.500 play and I’m going to be of the opinion that there are no accidents in life, which means he’s a witch and we all need to be very careful about our next steps.

No. 6 – Texas Baseball weekend in a gif …

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Yes, I like Grease 2. Don’t judge me.

No. 7 – The Houston Texans just became must-see-TV ...

I’ve been hard on Rick Smith over the years, but I love what the Texans did in the draft.

In drafting Deshaun Watson, I believe the Texans have finally found their quarterback of the future and the kind of guy that should make Texans fans feel really excited about the future.

Although the fan base hasn’t suffered like the Browns have suffered at the position, when all you have to champion in the entire franchise’s history is the best of Matt Schaub, you’ve never truly known the taste of elite quarterback play.

That means the Texans are essentially the 40-year old virgin of the NFL. Maybe the team has been to second or third base a time or two (maybe second base once), but you can't be taken seriously when your franchise history looks like this.

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With the selection of Watson (and D’Onta Foreman), I think Texans fans can put down their tubas because for the first time, I think the franchise has a real chance to emerge as the kind of team its fans have dreamed of.

The next couple of years should be fun.

No. 8 – Cue up the Ashford and Simpson ...

Perhaps there weren’t a lot of whistles and bells in the 2017 Dallas Cowboys draft class, but there were a few things that stood out to me about what the team did over three days.

* It didn’t get cute. Jerry likes a razzle dazzle whenever he can get a razzle dazzle, but the team seemed to play things out of a safe playbook, which is comforting because the Cowboys often make poor decisions when they look to create a razzle dazzle.

* Very few risks. Usually, the team will take a flyer on some great-testing small school player and more times than not, the team regrets it. This year, seven of the eight selections were from power conference schools and the eighth player was from Louisiana Tech. There wasn’t some dude from William and Mary that no one has ever heard of in the entire bunch.

* Addressed needs. Four defensive backs, three defensive linemen and two wide receivers.

* Zero reaches. It’s rare when I say this (if I’ve ever said it), but it seemed like the Cowboys got good value in every round.

While I’m a little worried that Taco Charlton is a cross between Shante Carver and a semi-stable Alonzo Spellman, I think the Cowboys got a half-dozen guys that can help the team this year, especially on defense.



No. 9 – Eternal Randomness of the Spotty Sports Mind …

Other thoughts on the NFL Draft …

a. I think it must suck to be a Bears fan right now.

b. I think Mike Williams in San Diego, Christian McCaffrey in Carolina and John Ross in Cincinnati are all going to be monsters.

c. Jameis Winston is going to love playing with fellow Alabaman O.J. Howard. Man, Winston has some weapons to throw to.

d. Of the nine Texans taken in first three rounds, seven were rated high-three stars or greater. The two anomalies were D’Onta Foreman and Zay Jones.

e. What is in K.D. Cannon’s past that kept him from being drafted?

f. The Ravens got a steal in Tyus Bowser. I could see him playing there for the next 10 years.

g. Former Carolina Panthers GM Marty Hurney told me last year that he thought Brad Kaaya was a special player that would eventually be a franchise NFL quarterback. He was selected late in the sixth round on Saturday.

h. I kind of feel like Aaron Rodgers is going to bring the best out of seventh-round pick Malachi Dupree.

i. Rivals rankings of the first 10 tight ends drafted this week: 6.1, 5.6, 5.6, unranked, unranked, 5.2, 5.5, 5.9, 5.5 and unranked.

… I have a feeling Washington/Boston is going to be a hell of a lot of fun in the NBA playoffs.

… The Clippers are done. Break’em up.

… Give me the Spurs over the Rockets in seven. This series is a big test for Kawhi.

… Kevin Durant is the Vegas money favorite for Finals MVP.

… P.J. Tucker will be a household name by the end of this week. I have a feeling he’s drawing nightly duty on Lebron and I think he’s going to prove to be a pest.

… Anthony Renden’s three homers and 10 RBI on Sunday had to have made McComas feel warm all over.

… I’m not sure if Chelsea is a special team, but it is having a special season. Every time the moment has called for it all season, the Blues have displayed a spine of steel.

… Good for Tottenham.


… Come on Klopp, the doorway is open. Get these boys to finish strong, starting today.

No. 10 – And finally…

Texas quarterback commit Casey Thompson had a few things to say on Twitter this weekend about his commit. Kind of thought it deserved its own section.




And then there was this, which Thompson retweeted.
Ketch you said Houston is a big test for Kawhi ? What test is he trying to pass ?
 
if Herman is hugely successful & Texas is ruling the B12 in 2022 I'd bet there is very little discussion about leaving & the B12 remains as a P5...

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Wrong. Need eyeballs and dollars. We will earn significantly less than other top conferences and UT rightfully won't stand for that.
 
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Big 12 sucks, no doubt, but the numbers are skewed with only 10 teams compared to 12-14 teams in other conferences.
Conference faired well on the field last year in non conference and bowls. Not as doomsday as it could be. But, i agree needs to die.
Tx resurgence will help the perception of the conf. in the next couple of years though.
 
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if Herman is hugely successful & Texas is ruling the B12 in 2022 I'd bet there is very little discussion about leaving & the B12 remains as a P5....

I bet you're wrong. It's not about competitiveness. It's about dollars. The Big 12 is not going to produce ratings good enough to keep anyone interested.

There's a lot that's going to be different by then. But there won't be an ESPN walking through the door making it rain in order to keep the Big 12 intact. If someone can figure out how to bring in equivalent dollars through new media then maybe Texas can leverage that into staying in a moribund Big 12 they dominate, but there are a lot of brilliant people who have tried to do that, and what it always amounts to is lesser revenue and lower overhead...or bankruptcy, mergers, massive layoffs, and often dead industries.

Orangebloods is an example of that. When you don't have to pay the capital costs of a newspaper publishing business and distribution system, you can still make a great margin reporting to niche audiences for premium content. But Orangebloods and its ilk don't bring in nearly the revenue the old newspaper businesses could command. Same thing with the music business. Huge music empires have been crushed, and outside of live performances, entertainers are still trying to find a way to create a percentage of the revenue their content used to command before the Spotify era.

The good news is that live entertainment commands a premium to advertisers, because viewers are more likely to watch the commercials. Maybe schools can sell their content to niche audiences the way Orangebloods does, without needing huge ESPN type studio costs to do it. But it seems more likely that a Big 10 network type setup, with enormous installed audiences, are going to continue to generate record revenues compared to what UT can do going it alone. And the Big 12 is going to quickly get shoved aside. There simply aren't enough people and/or media markets with the Big 12 schools outside of OU and Texas to matter.
 
Underrated aspect to the Tom Herman hire. I don't know if you've heard, but that dude "gets it" and I can guarantee you recognizes the disadvantages this league lends itself too, and what move would be in the best interest of the football program. And I would guess that whoever the AD is at the time will have heard his piece on the topic more than a few times.
 
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I hope Taco becomes a really good player. The Cowboys did admit that they had him rated as a second rounder. It doesn't matter. They took him, we'll see what he becomes.
I'm not high on the Taco pick, but it's not surprising they only had a 2nd rounder on him, they drafted at the end of the first round and teams rarely have more than 15-20 first round grades in a draft. Travis Frederick had a 2nd round grade too. I was hoping for Watt, as even though he is a riskier pick than Taco, Watt has a very high ceiling. I'm just happy Dallas didn't draft Takk McKinley, I think he's going to be a bust.
 
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And what does this (the lack of respect for the Big 12) say about Texas high school talent, which we have always thought of as the best in the nation?
Exactly....It seems that we the state of Texas fan base toot our own horns with loud praise whether merited or not....What makes Texas high school kids the best?
 
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