Murder on Austin UT campus

[HornsRuleU]

Evidence?

That's what I thought, Blackcat. There is no evidence backing up your bias that homeless tend to be murderers.

Top Gum, blaming problems on those with no voice is EXACTLY what Trump does.

BBR, I have the same experience, walking on the UT campus at night. But who is going to mess with us? Rarely does anyone mess with anyone on campus, but the fears of it happening are enough for there to be a SURE Walk program since the 1980s.

When I was a SURE volunteer, females studying alone at the PCL and heading across campus to women's dorms were the biggest users of the free service.

 

[oldschoolcat]

When I was a SURE volunteer, females studying alone at the PCL and heading across campus to women's dorms were the biggest users of the free service.

You're like the Rape Walker..... (anyone here watch Shameless?)

 

[topdecktiger]

There is no evidence backing up your bias that homeless tend to be murderers.

The guy didn't say homeless tend to be murderers. His point was that having a large group of people in a chaotic environment near a school is probably not the best idea in the world.

 

[swVAHorn]

The guy didn't say homeless tend to be murderers. His point was that having a large group of people in a chaotic environment near a school is probably not the best idea in the world.

You are using different words that mean the same thing. What would you do with the homeless? No one wants them in their towns, cities, neighborhoods...so what do you do with them? I am sure everyone would like to know so that the situation can be fixed across the country.

 

[TX1972]

yes it is a terrible tragedy that this poor girl's life was taken so early. yes, this happened to be a homeless teenager. no, the answer is not pushing the homeless away from campus (and hoping someone else addresses the issue). after all, let's not forget the student who chopped up his gf's body and left it in the tub in west campus. he was a white student from a well-to-do catholic home.

part of the answer here is mental health awareness (much like gun massacres).

it's very easy to give in to the "they're not like us, so they must be the problem" (cough, trump, cough) but it's almost always so much more complicated of an issue and warrants more thought than knee-jerk "let's kill him and be done with it" reactions.

Ever since the Kennedys saw Titticut Follies, it has been very difficult to force the insane into asylums. Thus many of the homeless fans a few psycho killers.

 

[HornsRuleU]

...homeless... Too many ... now murdering students.

Topdeck, it's similar to how Trump talks and tweets. If you didn't mean for people to take it the worst possible way, you should have been more careful how you said it. Otherwise, it incites violence and other forms of hatred.

 

[Blackcat00]

Evidence? Uh a UT student was just killed by a homeless male on campus.

Murder, shootings. Took me a minute to find this.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/sources-17-year-old-arrested-in-killing-of-ut-fres/nq2jC/

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/...ing-at-austin-homeless-shelter-monday-/npZ4L/

 

[topdecktiger]

Topdeck, it's similar to how Trump talks and tweets. If you didn't mean for people to take it the worst possible way, you should have been more careful how you said it. Otherwise, it incites violence and other forms of hatred.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. What you just posted is not at all how he said it. You chopped up his original statement, cherrypicked certain words, and ended up completely twisting his original meaning. That's dishonest and unethical on your part. You manipulated his statement, and then blamed him for something he never even said in the first place. What you just did is a hell of a lot more like Trump than the other guy.

 

[Belldozer1]

As if murdering this young woman wasn't enough, apparently, it's being reported that he sexually assaulted her first. This should be a quick trip to the execution chamber but what are the chances of a Travis County jury handing that punishment down?

 

[clob94]

Nah, they'll nail him.

 

[Scholz]

This should be a quick trip to the execution chamber but what are the chances of a Travis County jury handing that punishment down?

Why? Because it's only liberals here? Uninformed and biased per usual, bell. There have been 20 such death sentences handed down in Travis Cty over the years.

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_number_sentenced_death_county.html

 

[Belldozer1]

Why? Because it's only liberals here? Uninformed and biased per usual, bell. There have been 20 such death sentences handed down in Travis Cty over the years.

http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/death_row/dr_number_sentenced_death_county.html

Uninformed and biased about what? A bunch of liberals being in Travis County? Nice to know the few conservatives made up the jury pools on those 20 death sentences handed down, obviously. Hopefully they hand down the 21st soon but make no mistake, it's ate up with the liberals

The Texas counties: From most liberal to most conservative
By James A. Baker III Institute for Public Policy on August 26, 2014 at 12:23 PM

In May, using an earlier version of these data, I commented on how the liberal outlier status of Travis County residents should be a source of concern for Gov. Rick Perry and his legal team, since the members of Perry’s grand jury and the members of any future trial (petit) jury are drawn from a pool of Travis County residents. Following Perry’s indictment by a Travis County grand jury earlier this month, this concern undoubtedly remains, with a very real potential prospect of Perry’s fate being once again placed in the hands of Travis County residents — this time, members of a trial jury.

Travis County’s status as an ideological outlier in the Lone Star State is also likely to add further steam to efforts by Republicans in the Texas Legislature to modify the legislation governing the state’s Public Integrity Unit during the 2015 regular session. These reform efforts are expected to focus primarily on transferring the duties of the state’s Public Integrity Unit from the office of the Travis County District Attorney to another governmental unit such as the Office of the Attorney General or a newly created office run by an independent special prosecutor appointed through a bipartisan/consensual process, with the latter option certain to be more positively viewed by objective observers than the former.

 

[Scholz]

Uninformed and biased about what?

"but what are the chances of a Travis County jury handing that punishment down?"

Nice strawman diverson about liberals but I see you're not man enough to admit when you're wrong. Shows your low character.

 

[Belldozer1]

"but what are the chances of a Travis County jury handing that punishment down?"

Nice strawman diverson about liberals but I see you're not man enough to admit when you're wrong. Shows your low character.

Huh? Yes Scholz death sentences handed down but if you think that was liberals doing then you're not much of liberal like you claim. BTW that chart puts Travis County in the 'very' liberal sector. Are you going to argue that liberals are all for the death penalty? Is that where you are attempting to go here? That's rich my friend.

 

[Scholz]

You're literally too stupid to insult. You were wrong about death sentences being handed down in Travis County. You were making an ignorant assumption and you were clearly wrong but aren't man enough to admit it. A 5th grader can follow a line of reasoning better than you.

"Huh?" The summation of your life I suspect.

 

[Belldozer1]

You're literally too stupid to insult. You were wrong about death sentences being handed down in Travis County. You were making an ignorant assumption and you were clearly wrong but aren't man enough to admit it. A 5th grader can follow a line of reasoning better than you.

"Huh?" The summation of your life I suspect.

I edited my post above.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

BTW that chart puts Travis County in the 'very' liberal sector.

No, actually, it doesn't. Give your meth-addled brain some time and see if you can understand why not.

 

[Scholz]

I edited my post above.

Didn't help your flailing.

And if Travis County is as liberal as you want to believe, and there have been 20 death sentences handed down, your second assumption that it was the "few conservatives" here solely on ALL 20 of those juries is statistically impossible and is as equally retarded as your initial faceplant on this topic.

 

[Belldozer1]

You're literally too stupid to insult. You were wrong about death sentences being handed down in Travis County. You were making an ignorant assumption and you were clearly wrong but aren't man enough to admit it. A 5th grader can follow a line of reasoning better than you.

"Huh?" The summation of your life I suspect.

Yes Scholz it's nice to see the conservative folks living in a very liberal county do the right thing and send folks to their death for their heinous crimes. I hope these same folks can find a way to send the 21st one off very soon.

 

[Belldozer1]

Didn't help your flailing.

No answering the questions presented I see.

 

[Belldozer1]

No, actually, it doesn't. Give your meth-addled brain some time and see if you can understand why not.

compared to the other counties, yes it does.

 

[BillyRay]

You're literally too stupid to insult.

Lol, it's funny how often you resort to using this line. It's very revealing actually about yourself more than anything....

 

[Scholz]

You're an idiot with no character, bell. In other words, the typical $ooner.

 

[Scholz]

Lol, it's funny how often you resort to using this line. It's very revealing actually about yourself more than anything....

Funny how all of you Idiot America red state okies are all so dumb. Something in the water up there I suspect. Or gene pool.

 

[BringBackRoyal]

compared to the other counties, yes it does.

Like I said, give yourself all the time that little pellet rattling around in your Okie skull needs.

 

[Belldozer1]

Didn't help your flailing.

And if Travis County is as liberal as you want to believe, and there have been 20 death sentences handed down, your second assumption that it was the "few conservatives" here solely on ALL 20 of those juries is statistically impossible and is as equally retarded as your initial faceplant on this topic.

Scholz I'm pretty sure when the jury selection is going on, the perspective jurors are asked if they would have a problem sending someone to the death chamber. Do you think there are any liberals answering "yes"? Seriously? Is that what you are claiming here?

 

[Scholz]

What I'm claiming is you're ignorant with low character. You made a flat out wrong assumption and can't admit you were wrong.

 

[Belldozer1]

What I'm claiming is you're ignorant with low character. You made a flat out wrong assumption and can't admit you were wrong.

Scholz I'm a pleased to see that Travis County has the capability to send people to tge death chamber and am hopeful the prosecutor in the case can find enough competent jurors to make it 21.

 

[Scholz]

"but what are the chances of a Travis County jury handing that punishment down?"

Admit you were wrong. It's OK. The sun will come up tomorrow.

 

[Belldozer1]

"but what are the chances of a Travis County jury handing that punishment down?"

Admit you were wrong. It's OK. The sun will come up tomorrow.

Scholz yes it's happened but in a very liberal county Most folks won't hold their breath that it will. And I hope that you and BBR can find it in your bleeding hearts to recognize this POS should get the death penalty. Can we all agree on that ?

 

[jsto60]

Scholz I'm a pleased to see that Travis County has the capability to send people to tge death chamber and am hopeful the prosecutor in the case can find enough competent jurors to make it 21.

At least sooner troll didn't say "I hope Bob Stoops offers him a second chance by giving him a scholarship".

But that's probably because the homeless kid can't ball. If he could, Stoops would be on line 2. And said sooner troll would be blaming the girl and wearing his jersey # in the trailer park. They might even do meth together while running around the bar punching girls.

 

[Scholz]

I agree with that. See, I'm a liberal and I'm pro capital punishment. So your simpleton black and white thinking doesn't fit so neatly into a box now does it.

And you still can't admit you were wrong about Travis County.

 

[Belldozer1]

I agree with that. See, I'm a liberal and I'm pro capital punishment. So your simpleton black and white thinking doesn't fit so neatly into a box now does it.

And you still can't admit you were wrong about Travis County.

Glad you feel that way Scholz.youre a trendsetter and let's hope it catches on.

 

[jsto60]

If you want to have the lynchpin in this argument, you need to prove that per heinous death in Travis Co....that the jurys let said murderers get away without death penalty.

There just aren't that many heinous murders in Austin. Maybe because people that live there are pretty happy about life and don't murder people. Plus our coaches don't recruit known murderers. That helps too.


But you can't show candidate party voting line data and act like it correlates to murder conviction rates.

Just simply, you know, look up the murder/death sentence conviction rate data if you want to harp on that point. Does that makes sense okie?

 

[Belldozer1]

If you want to have the lynchpin in this argument, you need to prove that per heinous death in Travis Co....that the jurys let said murderers get away without death penalty.

There just aren't that many heinous murders in Austin. Maybe because people that live there are pretty happy about life and don't murder people. Plus our coaches don't recruit known murderers. That helps too.

Exactly I'd be real interested how many cases were turned down from death penalty sentencing even though the criteria was met.