I ageee. We need to go out and buy the best DC we can find. Not just get whoever is avaliable.
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Not to mention, both Strongs OC and DC had already each been fired for failing at the same position in the BigXII (Watson at CU and Neb, Bedford at OSU)
This statement is a set up for you to complain later... Just remember that you and Herman might have different opinions on who the "best" is. Don't whine when he doesn't hire who you think he should.
The only person I've heard that I don't really like is Orlando. The more I seen of Houston's D the less impressed I was with him. I think Rohdes or Leviett would be solid hires.
It's not rocket science though defensive coaches need a strong OC and vice versa.
Hiring top notch coordinators is definitely a good thing but it is not all that matters. Saban and Meyer always have good coordinators because they are good leaders and demand excellence from their players and staff. Their coordinators leave for higher jobs and they just plug another one in and rarely see much difference in performance. If Herman has that quality he should be fine. One the other side of the spectrum you have Sumlin who can't seem to find a capable coordinator after several tries...could be bad leadership but who knows. It's hard to imagine that Chavis all of a sudden forgot how to stop the run after he has been so successful for so many years. So in summary, if Herman is a good leader his hires should turn out ok.
That is because Saban and Meyer have systems in place. The system is everything. We don't have a system, we need top notch coordinators in order to create that system. Once the system is in place we can promote from within and create a machine like you see in Ohio State and Bama.
I'm sorry but Saban went and got Lane kiffen who was viewed as a top notch OC. And he's hired Sark to wait in the wings and replace lane when he leaves. I'd say he hires top notch coordinators
So the 10 sacks on Lamar Jackson and the complete and total destruction of Louisville's offense didn't impress you?
Sure by itself but
40 points to Navy
31 to Tulsa
38 to SMU
48 to Memphis
That's gotta concern you a bit.
Navy is #11 in points scored and has averaged 42 points a game so far this year. If they beat Temple in the CCG this weekend they will be this year's G5 team playing on New Years day. UH played that #2 rushing attacking in Annapolis in torrential rain from Matthew.
Tulsa is #6 in total O and #12 in scoring O at 41ppg. So UH held them 35% under their average.
SMU was a double whammy of injuries and the Big 12 announcing a few days before that game that the Big 12 was not expanding. Herman talking sh** before the game didn't help either.
None of what your saying is incrrect but imo you can't just harp on the good things(OU. Louisville and FSU) and just explain away the red flags or potential red flags.
The only red flags with Herman are the lack of prolonged success at a given institution and resume that is similar to Strong's. That being said a change had to be made and Herman was the best available option.
I'm not talking about Herman. I'm talking about Todd Orlando as the potential DC. Not sure he's the right guy.
Then talk about his scheme may not be a fit for our players instead of UH's record this year.
Look at the 2 deep for UH. It is paper thin. Then go look at the injuries and the change in the 2 deep for the games where the defense struggled. That should give you an idea of what the man can do.
I didn't talk about Houstons recored. Pointed out that the defense gave up a lot of points to lesser teams. I'd give a pass on the navy game that's a tricky offense and they've beaten a lot of people over the years but the others are somewhat concerning.
I would go with Rhodes or Leveitt over Orlando. Not even that close
Yeah but except for all that.......Charlie Strong is not at Texas so Ryan will whine.
This and it wasn't close. The only other option was to keep someone who couldn't win and had proven it over a 3 year period.
So we need to be concerned about any candidate that has given up a lot of points to an opponent? I guess we need to narrow our search down to Jesus, because every coach that has ever coordinated a defense has been embarrassed at some point.
We're you aware that the Cleveland Browns once fired a coach after 5 season because his overall record was 36-44. Nobody thought he was a good coach either.
Well according to Ryansublet-Strong....Texas needs a coach who is Undefeated and been a head coach for several years.......Has led the nation in offense and defense and special teams and walks on water.
Is that too much to ask? Come on...
No where will you ever see me saying any of that. Lying once again. In today's world though you can make up your own facts and spout them off till they are true. So I shouldn't be suprised.
How else are we suppose to judge how a defense and a DC has preformed if not by the points given up? Last I checked the object was to give up as few points as possible.
And it's not so much the points. It's who. I mean when your giving up a lot of points despite having better talent than that team. It's a concern. I just don't think Orlando would be a good hire.
The same Orlando whose defenses utterly punked FSU, OU, and Louisville (the last two currently being ranked 2nd and 1st nationally in scoring, respectively)? The same Orlando who has shut down mobile QBs in ways that Texas fans have so far only been able to dream of seeing?
When Orlando's starters have been healthy, which often wasn't the case this year -- and when rumors of Herman's imminent departure aren't being shouted through media bullhorns, as happened both in the middle and at the end of this season -- his defenses have been impressive. They tackle well, they shed blocks well, they're physical, and they take good angles.
I'd have absolutely zero problem with Orlando coming here, and I've yet to see a well-reasoned argument ("His name's not Aranda!!!" doesn't count) for why he'd be a bad choice.
Edit: Looks like this ground has already been well-covered.
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But you're still disqualifying every DC that's ever coached.
When was the last time Alabama played a game and wasn't more talented than their opponent? That doesn't mean they've held every single team they've faced to 10 points. In fact, they've been lit up multiple times in recent years. I'm not ready to question Nick Saban though.
Not that I'm pushing for Orlando, just pointing out you seem to have an impossible standard.
This is why Strong is gone....I am not lying about anything. You give your qualifications and everyone tells you that it is beyond ignorant and you just say that is not what you meant and change it to mean something else. Either stand up for what you say or don't say it. I am not the only one noticing how you post by the way.
Actually the object is to score more points than they score.....but carry on.
So Jesus then? You want Jesus? Because that's going to only guy in the country that meets your criteria.
well ryan_sublett.....TEXAS lost to what I consider a lesser team in Kansas.....FREAKING KANSAS!!! So I guess in your perfect world beating Baylor and losing to Kansas......is much better than beating OU....FSU....Louisville and losing to SMU. and let's not factor in that the talent at TEXAS is better than that of Houston. Hell I'm not sure Charlie's coaching would have fared any better against those teams Houston lost to this year.......even with the talent disparity.
To be fair, even Jesus ran into trouble when he had to go up against a tough Roman Legion squad that really hadn't been tested since the 9 A.D. season when Coach Varus lost his head to a stout German team. Now in that final season with Jesus at the helm, (sometime between the 30 and 33 A.D. seasons, RCAA records aren't complete) while the nascent Christian team did wonders in conference play, a lack of depth wore them down. Of course Jesus also had to contend with Judas Iscariot, a transfer from Okie or Aggie, again the records aren't clear. That had to be a major distraction from game prep...
So your saying Jesus isn't good enough for ryan_sublett? What are we going to do?
Also, let's not forget. Jesus had 12 walk-ons plus a donkey against the million 5 star recruits of the Romans. Maybe we should hire this Jesus guy.
That was a fun read! Let me make some popcorn real quick before y'all start at it again.
