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OFFICIAL Playoff Argument Thread- Who's in and Why

It's time to use the NFL model. I find the NFL boring but their playoff model leaves no questions. Have the 4 conferences send their champion for a playoff. All the horse trading can be handled in conference playoffs and none of the committees or sportswriters would have any say. Would the NFL teams be up for a committee running their league?
This is the one thing I'm looking forward to for the 12 team playoff. The fact that conference champs make it. No politics. No rankings. Win your conference and you get a ticket. Its the best part of the Big Dance. The fact that we don't have that as a requirement for the 4 team playoff just shows how much power the 'big' players have.
 
This is the one thing I'm looking forward to for the 12 team playoff. The fact that conference champs make it. No politics. No rankings. Win your conference and you get a ticket. Its the best part of the Big Dance. The fact that we don't have that as a requirement for the 4 team playoff just shows how much power the 'big' players have.
I will tell you how the shit 10 is going to continue to screw the other leagues. Their teams will get the best draws and the easiest routes to the final. They do it in every other sport yet suck. They never win national titles. They blow even though they do everything in their power to rig the game.
 
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I will tell you how the shit 10 is going to continue to screw the other leagues. Their teams will get the best draws and the easiest routes to the final. They do it in every other sport yet suck. They never win national titles. They blow even though they do everything in their power to rig the game.
What amazes me about the shit 10 (as you call it) is how they draw $$$ and TV views while displaying the most archaic product in the sport. Slow, plodding offenses that barely know what a forward pass is makes for boring TV.
 
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What amazes me about the shit 10 (as you call it) is how they draw $$$ and TV views while displaying the most archaic product in the sport. Slow, plodding offenses that barely know what a forward pass is makes for boring TV.
Everyone of their freaking games is on TV. And I'm not talking about ESPN+. Surely these prime time games featuring Iowa v. Illinois on NBC don't draw any viewers.
 
OSU isn't playing next week. This mean no bonus points for them.
 
OSU isn't playing next week. This mean no bonus points for them.
UT needs to watch a tape of the 2014 Big 10 championship game and learn a lesson. That was the year BU and TCU were duking it out. Going into the championship weekend, TCU was 4, BU 5 (even though we beat TCU) and tOSU was 6. tOSU put the pedal to the metal, and never let up, embarrassing Wisconsin 59-0. Final Poll = tOSU 4, BU 5, TCU 6.

Lesson to learn - take advantage of the last data point, and don't pull the starters no matter how bad the score gets. Sportsmanship will keep you out of the playoff.
 
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UT needs to watch a tape of the 2014 Big 10 championship game and learn a lesson. That was the year BU and TCU were duking it out. Going into the championship weekend, TCU was 4, BU 5 (even though we beat TCU) and tOSU was 6. tOSU put the pedal to the metal, and never let up, embarrassing Wisconsin 59-0. Final Poll = tOSU 4, BU 5, TCU 6.

Lesson to learn - take advantage of the last data point, and don't pull the starters no matter how bad the score gets. Sportsmanship will keep you out of the playoff.
That data point only matters if it involves a team the committee wants in the playoff. IIRC, TCU won by 50 that same weekend.
 
After the warm reception the big 12's pimp got last weekend, expect another 150 - 0 yard differential in penalties tomorrow. Oh, and plenty of no calls in favor of stoolwater
 
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Rumor going around that FSU will be down to their 3rd string QB Saturday night
 
Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. There was no way that tOSU was getting dropped out of the top 6. Maybe it won't matter. But there's no guarantee that you jump tOSU even with a win. What if you squeak out a win in a sloppy turnover filled game? Or God-forbid win while suffering an injury to a key player (see FSU)? Hypothetically, do you think the committee is going to jump a Ewers-less Big 12 champ Texas team over tOSU?

The fact is, tOSU should have been 8th. They are the best football team not playing this weekend, but they aren't playing this weekend, and they shouldn't be ranked ahead of ANY of the 1 loss teams that are still playing.
If Texas wins this weekend they will 100% jump Ohio State because of being a conference champion.
 
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Wa is in. Penix for Heisman. Mi will win. I think Sec champ gets in, even if it is Al. Let’s kick some poke ass and root for Louisville tomorrow night.
 
You can't put Bama in because we beat them at home by double digits.

Otherwise-- why play?
I’m with you bro. I just think they won’t leave the sec out. I’ve already said in prior posts that if we win and Al wins it will and interesting decision for the committee. “The committee”. Sounds like a planet of the apes movie ending.
 
I’m with you bro. I just think they won’t leave the sec out. I’ve already said in prior posts that if we win and Al wins it will and interesting decision for the committee. “The committee”. Sounds like a planet of the apes movie ending.
If Texas is left out and Bama gets in, ooc scheduling will be dead. The NCAA has created another unsolvable puzzle and has no way out. Might as well shoot the networks in the head now. Bye bye ever increasing tv contracts.
 
If Texas is left out and Bama gets in, ooc scheduling will be dead. The NCAA has created another unsolvable puzzle and has no way out. Might as well shoot the networks in the head now. Bye bye ever increasing tv contracts.
Yup. This ooc matchups are HUGE revenue generators early in the season for the networks. You start nixing those Texas vs Michigan games for Texas vs Oral Roberts--- and the networks will lose their sh!t.
 
Yup. This ooc matchups are HUGE revenue generators early in the season for the networks. You start nixing those Texas vs Michigan games for Texas vs Oral Roberts--- and the networks will lose their sh!t.
I'll be very curious if this occurs. Would you leave out an undefeated FSU just to prevent this? Just listen to the talking heads on ESPN. They all state that there is ZERO chance that an SEC team gets left out. I know you guys are worried about the Big12 having the refs screw you today. But I guarantee the TV guys want you to get screwed more so than even Yormark does.
 
TV guys only give a shit about 2 things.
RATINGS AND MONEY!
Texas brings more of both of those being in the conversation. I guarantee you the TV guys want FSU out and if they could figure out how to make it happen, Washington as well.
 
You can't put Bama in because we beat them at home by double digits.

Otherwise-- why play?
I get it, but teams change over the course of the year. Texas also has a loss to a 3 loss OU team. Every other team currently ahead of you only lost to an undefeated team. Ohio St barely lost to the number 2 team. Alabama COULD beat the number team and is playing WAY better than they did early in the season. The committees decision is to put THE best 4 teams in based on where they are right now. I'm of the opinion that Florida St even if they win is not as good as Texas right now without Travis. How do you keep them out though?? 13-0 and conference winner?? I'm not disagreeing with you on theory, but conference champions have been left out before because they say they need the 4 best teams. What IF Bama beats Georgia. You going to leave conference champion Alabama out? Are you going to kick Georgia out, a team who hasn't lost in 3 years? Is Texas better than Ohio St??
Texas looks pretty good, but 4 and 5 stars outplay 2 and 3 stars most of the time and Texas has needed some close calls and help along the way to beat K-State, Iowa St, Houston and TCU. They played a team today that had 3 losses and total defense of 117 in the country. Texas has the worst loss of all teams above them and Bama is a different team right now. If I'm a Texas fan I sure as hell believe I should be in, and I don't blame you, but it isn't as clear as you might think considering all things....I know A&M sucks, really bad.
 
Sorry, but if Bama beats UGA, they are in the playoffs, especially if it’s by double digits. Texas needs FSU to lose, that is their best shot
 
I get it, but teams change over the course of the year. Texas also has a loss to a 3 loss OU team. Every other team currently ahead of you only lost to an undefeated team. Ohio St barely lost to the number 2 team. Alabama COULD beat the number team and is playing WAY better than they did early in the season. The committees decision is to put THE best 4 teams in based on where they are right now. I'm of the opinion that Florida St even if they win is not as good as Texas right now without Travis. How do you keep them out though?? 13-0 and conference winner?? I'm not disagreeing with you on theory, but conference champions have been left out before because they say they need the 4 best teams. What IF Bama beats Georgia. You going to leave conference champion Alabama out? Are you going to kick Georgia out, a team who hasn't lost in 3 years? Is Texas better than Ohio St??
Texas looks pretty good, but 4 and 5 stars outplay 2 and 3 stars most of the time and Texas has needed some close calls and help along the way to beat K-State, Iowa St, Houston and TCU. They played a team today that had 3 losses and total defense of 117 in the country. Texas has the worst loss of all teams above them and Bama is a different team right now. If I'm a Texas fan I sure as hell believe I should be in, and I don't blame you, but it isn't as clear as you might think considering all things....I know A&M sucks, really bad.
So Texas had had luck this year? And Alabama hasn't? How about that 4th and 31 ?
 
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…Texas has the worst loss of all teams above them and Bama is a different team right now….

I always wonder why the “xxx team is a different team right now” argument only seems to apply to one team in the discussion. Texas is a different team too. Bama needed a literal last second miracle to squeak past a mediocre Auburn team last week. Texas has a much harder SOS (ranked by every outlet). Texas doesn’t just have the head-to-head win against Bama, they went into Tuscaloosa and snapped a 21 home game winning streak by double digits (57 games by non-conference opponents). Just so you are aware, those win streaks go all the way back to 2007, Saban’s first year. That’s something none of you have been able to do. If you’re really going to be honest, it could have been a much worse loss for them; but I digress.

I know you’re an SEC homer, but that conference is really no different than any other Power 5 conference; a couple of really good teams, a couple of really bad teams, and a bunch of mediocre teams. This is proven ever year by their OOC and bowl records. That’s also why their SOS’s suffer.

I’m not afraid of the SEC, and I don’t know a Texas fan who is. I really don’t like the SEC, and that’s not changed by going to the conference. I guess the Horns will just benefit from the constant fellating of the SEC from the media and voters.

Your argument that Bama has a ‘better’ loss falls flat when that loss is against Texas. If you believe that the committee won’t consider the head-to-head and SOS of both teams I feel you’re mistaken.

I say all of this, and yet I still won’t throw a fit of Texas is #5 and gets left out of the CFP. I recognize that we shouldn’t have lost to ou. We should have won that game, but didn’t. Texas has done everything to make up for it, and it will be up to the committee to make the decision.
 
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I get it, but teams change over the course of the year. Texas also has a loss to a 3 loss OU team. Every other team currently ahead of you only lost to an undefeated team. Ohio St barely lost to the number 2 team. Alabama COULD beat the number team and is playing WAY better than they did early in the season. The committees decision is to put THE best 4 teams in based on where they are right now. I'm of the opinion that Florida St even if they win is not as good as Texas right now without Travis. How do you keep them out though?? 13-0 and conference winner?? I'm not disagreeing with you on theory, but conference champions have been left out before because they say they need the 4 best teams. What IF Bama beats Georgia. You going to leave conference champion Alabama out? Are you going to kick Georgia out, a team who hasn't lost in 3 years? Is Texas better than Ohio St??
Texas looks pretty good, but 4 and 5 stars outplay 2 and 3 stars most of the time and Texas has needed some close calls and help along the way to beat K-State, Iowa St, Houston and TCU. They played a team today that had 3 losses and total defense of 117 in the country. Texas has the worst loss of all teams above them and Bama is a different team right now. If I'm a Texas fan I sure as hell believe I should be in, and I don't blame you, but it isn't as clear as you might think considering all things....I know A&M sucks, really bad.
Just checking in. 2 loss OU. Cmon that’s an easy one. Get you’re facts straight dude.
 
Honestly FSU is not one of the best 4 teams in the Nation, but if they go undefeated, they won’t be left out. Give me UGA, Michigan, Washington, Bama, Texas, Oregon, tOSU over them. Now if they throttle Louisville maybe I reconsider my opinion, but doubtful.
 
I’m hoping FSU gets prison raped by Louisville after Saban rolls Georgia.
That puts the final 4 as
Michigan
Washington
Alabama
Texas

If we’re the 4 seed, we smash Harbaugh & Co and then most likely get a rematch with The Great Satan.
 
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I’m hoping FSU gets prison raped by Louisville after Saban rolls Georgia.
That puts the final 4 as
Michigan
Washington
Alabama
Texas

If we’re the 4 seed, we smash Harbaugh & Co and then most likely get a rematch with The Great Satan.
If this were the ranking, you'd get the 3 seed as the committee would get the SEC in and thus could point to the head-to-head in ranking you above them. Bama will only be ranked over UT if its relative to earning the #4 and #5 slot.
 
Disagree. The win over Georgia is more impressive than steamrolling Oklahoma A&M. They’ll slow roll the head to head because it was early in the year. I somewhat agree with that.
IF we get in, we’re the 4 seed.
 
So if Alabama beats Georgia our head to head means nothing? SEC should be out but the committee will #### Texas.
 
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