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Nick,Urban>>All college coaches (not just Charlie)
I think he mentioned Charlie because he's one of the highest paid coaches in CFB like Saban's and Meyer and Stoops but so far nowhere in their league. I think that's what he meant at least. Now, I'm not saying Charlie can't be a great coach, but I don't think he's tgere yet.
 
Everyone knows injuries are a part of the game and they suck. Having said that, this is Charlie's 3rd year so there is really no room for excuses anymore. I've heard from some of y'all that Charlie is a great developer of talent and you may be right but I'm going to need to see it starting with ND. I felt compelled to post this because I'm seeing some perceived preemptive injury excusin' creeping in and really that's no excuse. Also every college team is young in areas, Texas is no different. Charlie seems like a nice guy so hopefully he can pull it all together.

I'd like to see it with ND, but I need to see it with Cal and the early Big12 games. A loss to ND is tolerable if they prove to be a good team and remain highly ranked into November, though a blowout would be inexcusable. Even better if we can compete despite these injuries.

Though, with your argument, Baylor has no excuse for how we beat them last year.
 
Everyone knows injuries are a part of the game and they suck. Having said that, this is Charlie's 3rd year so there is really no room for excuses anymore. I've heard from some of y'all that Charlie is a great developer of talent and you may be right but I'm going to need to see it starting with ND. I felt compelled to post this because I'm seeing some perceived preemptive injury excusin' creeping in and really that's no excuse. Also every college team is young in areas, Texas is no different. Charlie seems like a nice guy so hopefully he can pull it all together.

OL play is the key, youth are rarely successful at the position, It's called being realistic not an excuse. Show me another roster that is 70% underclassmen that came from a coaches first two recruiting classes (there's not one). My expectations are low, 7 wins. He's close, but I don't see them making a big splash in 2016. As for excuses, there won't be any and 2017 will prove that should he survive.
 
I'd like to see it with ND, but I need to see it with Cal and the early Big12 games. A loss to ND is tolerable if they prove to be a good team and remain highly ranked into November, though a blowout would be inexcusable. Even better if we can compete despite these injuries.

Though, with your argument, Baylor has no excuse for how we beat them last year.
Neither does OU.
 
We have 1 senior and 2 juniors, the rest are Sophomores or younger. 16 total scholarship linemen, 3 upper classmen.

Young brah

The three RS Sophomores are Rodriguez, Cuney and Anderson.... Lol

For his 13 he had a lot of scout team walk-on guys. There are only 8 who've seen a snap in a college game.

Bell- This is the best place to look at the Texas' roster...
http://insidetexas.com/football/football.php?pg=fb_roster
 
I'd like to see it with ND, but I need to see it with Cal and the early Big12 games. A loss to ND is tolerable if they prove to be a good team and remain highly ranked into November, though a blowout would be inexcusable. Even better if we can compete despite these injuries.

Though, with your argument, Baylor has no excuse for how we beat them last year.
As far as your Baylor comment goes: Briles had already established that he can win in this league, he had a good team. It's not the same predicament Texas is in now. Baylor was not on a couple year down turn and using injuries, youth as valid excuses. Look what Baylor did in their bowl game. Do you think OU or TEXAS could win a bowl against a formidable opponent with a qb who is not even a qb? I don't, he'll we couldn't win with our 1st or second stringer and Texas couldn't even spell bowl game the last couple years. Having said that Texas beat Baylor fair and square.
 
As far as your Baylor comment goes: Briles had already established that he can win in this league, he had a good team. It's not the same predicament Texas is in now. Baylor was not on a couple year down turn and using injuries, youth as valid excuses. Look what Baylor did in their bowl game. Do you think OU or TEXAS could win a bowl against a formidable opponent with a qb who is not even a qb? I don't, he'll we couldn't win with our 1st or second stringer and Texas couldn't even spell bowl game the last couple years. Having said that Texas beat Baylor fair and square.

Baylor was #4 in the nation for returning OL starts last year. That is how young QB can look good. Think 2006 Colt behind the NC OL and then 2007 Colt running for his life behind the that OL.

This year Baylor is #117 in returning OL starts.
 
Baylor was #4 in the nation for returning OL starts last year. That is how young QB can look good. Think 2006 Colt behind the NC OL and then 2007 Colt running for his life behind the that OL.
Agree, the point I was getting at more was that for Baylor to come out and say they lost because their qb was hurt stands to reason considering they had played strong all year with him compared to say a 6-6 team claiming they lost a game due to injuries. More than likely the 6-6 team lost because they suck not necessarily due to injuries. Does that make sense? And yes OU beat Baylor without Baylor having their starting qb too.
 
Agree, the point I was getting at more was that for Baylor to come out and say they lost because their qb was hurt stands to reason considering they had played strong all year with him compared to say a 6-6 team claiming they lost a game due to injuries. More than likely the 6-6 team lost because they suck not necessarily due to injuries. Does that make sense?
Texas wont suck as a whole if this is a simple enough explanation for you, but OL is still a question and now there are three starters out with injuries and 1 of the 3 upperclassmen are currently out. Perkins (Sr) is at RG and Hodges (Jr) is getting reps at RT. The three injured players are Shack C (true F) backed up by a former (DT RS Soph with 0 snaps), Vahe (true Soph 12 starts) backed up by a true Freshman and Nickelson RT (Jr) backed up by Hodges (Jr) and a true Freshman Oakfor. Not ideal.

Games are won and lost in the trenches.... Depth is awesome, though not fully developed.
 
Everyone knows injuries are a part of the game and they suck. Having said that, this is Charlie's 3rd year so there is really no room for excuses anymore. I've heard from some of y'all that Charlie is a great developer of talent and you may be right but I'm going to need to see it starting with ND. I felt compelled to post this because I'm seeing some perceived preemptive injury excusin' creeping in and really that's no excuse. Also every college team is young in areas, Texas is no different. Charlie seems like a nice guy so hopefully he can pull it all together.
1. No offense, but I don't need a Sooner telling what our coach needs to prove.
2. You aren't entirely wrong. People seem to be ready to throw in the towel on this game and blame it on inexperience at O line. I saw a ranking that said ND is #120 in the country in returning starts on D. This is where COACHING comes in. If our coaches can't game plan around a slight to moderate mismatch on the O line, particularly when the rest of the D is completely green, what are we paying them for?
3. With all of this said, I am concerned about Vahe. Nicholson seems like he will be ready to go, and even if he isn't, his back ups aren't huge drop offs. Shackleford is a big loss, but we can give his replacement help. Vahe was supposed to be a strength on the O line and one of the people who could rotate between positions to help out the others. I'm anxious to see how bad this injury is. Hopefully he will be ready to go by Sunday.
 
Texas wont suck as a whole if this is a simple enough explanation for you, but OL is still a question and now there are three starters out with injuries and 1 of the 3 upperclassmen are currently out. Perkins (Sr) is at RG and Hodges (Jr) is getting reps at RT. The three injured players are Shack C (true F) backed up by a former (DT RS Soph with 0 snaps), Vahe (true Soph 12 starts) backed up by a true Freshman and Nickelson RT (Jr) backed up by Hodges (Jr) and a true Freshman Oakfor. Not ideal.

Games are won and lost in the trenches.... Depth is awesome, though not fully developed.
Vahe is out? Chip was saying this morning they did not know how severe the injury was.
 
Everyone knows injuries are a part of the game and they suck. Having said that, this is Charlie's 3rd year so there is really no room for excuses anymore. I've heard from some of y'all that Charlie is a great developer of talent and you may be right but I'm going to need to see it starting with ND. I felt compelled to post this because I'm seeing some perceived preemptive injury excusin' creeping in and really that's no excuse. Also every college team is young in areas, Texas is no different. Charlie seems like a nice guy so hopefully he can pull it all together.
Yes, injuries are part of the game. What's funny though is we lose 3/5 starters on our O line and you say, eh next guy up, no big deal. ND loses 1 starter at safety and you say "half of their team is out and too bad we couldn't have had this game at full strength".

You are a ridiculous moron.
 
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Vahe is out? Chip was saying this morning they did not know how severe the injury was.
He's banged up, we'll call him a question mark until we hear otherwise. I don't think he's going to miss much and will be good to go next week. I also heard the back up Center is doing his job. Honestly, I'm fairly certain the OL will be back at full strength (if you want to call it that) next week.
 
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Yes, injuries are part of the game. What's funny though is we lose 3/5 starters on our O line and you say, eh next guy up, no big deal. ND loses 1 starter at safety and you say "half of their team is out and too bad we couldn't have had this game at full strength".

You are a ridiculous moron.
I forgot about that post, that's some funny schadenfreude right there. Poor Bell.
 
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Yes, injuries are part of the game. What's funny though is we lose 3/5 starters on our O line and you say, eh next guy up, no big deal. ND loses 1 starter at safety and you say "half of their team is out and too bad we couldn't have had this game at full strength".

You are a ridiculous moron.
I was being sarcastic about my ND comments and stated as such. Of course you chose to gloss over that part.
 
1. No offense, but I don't need a Sooner telling what our coach needs to prove.
2. You aren't entirely wrong. People seem to be ready to throw in the towel on this game and blame it on inexperience at O line. I saw a ranking that said ND is #120 in the country in returning starts on D. This is where COACHING comes in. If our coaches can't game plan around a slight to moderate mismatch on the O line, particularly when the rest of the D is completely green, what are we paying them for?
3. With all of this said, I am concerned about Vahe. Nicholson seems like he will be ready to go, and even if he isn't, his back ups aren't huge drop offs. Shackleford is a big loss, but we can give his replacement help. Vahe was supposed to be a strength on the O line and one of the people who could rotate between positions to help out the others. I'm anxious to see how bad this injury is. Hopefully he will be ready to go by Sunday.
Horn01 I hardly think I'm the only one Strong needs to prove something to. There is a poll out by a major sports news organization list him pretty high on the Top 10 coaches on the hot seat so it's really a lot of folks. I have heard on here how Charlie develops talent but that evidently he can't develop what he was left with by Mack but he can develop his recruits? It's kind of confusing where one excuse ends and the other begins with some of your fellow posters. I'm not lumping you in that group btw. I agree with your comments in your 2nd point and I do hope your teams injuries are minor as I've seen eluded to.
 
You're still making a big deal about their losses and not ours, lying hypocrite.
You and your ilk have made a profession of making excuses the last couple of years. Time has run out on that mantra. Come up with new material hoss
 
You and your ilk have made a profession of making excuses the last couple of years. Time has run out on that mantra. Come up with new material hoss
Laughable. There has never been a loss in the history of your disgusting program where your whiny fans didn't cry like little girls about the refs. Not one. =)roll
 
The savior of the program will be 11-15 pretty soon. Especially if he's relying on a freshman. The futility has been fun to watch, but you guys need to have at least a .500 season, can you at least do that much?
 
Yay, now all we're missing from the H(uge)eisennberg B(owel)elldozer M(ovement)oses is Moses. :rolleyes:
 
He's banged up, we'll call him a question mark until we hear otherwise. I don't think he's going to miss much and will be good to go next week. I also heard the back up Center is doing his job. Honestly, I'm fairly certain the OL will be back at full strength (if you want to call it that) next week.
Thats good to hear
 
TexExSpur I'm just trying to get a handle on the thoughts of the Longhorn faithful on the team, injuries etc. but I get a lot of fluff and it takes a while to weed out the bs:D
Yet another lie. You're on here saying we're pre-emptively making excuses and stirring up crap like usual.
 
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GUYS! GUYS! (scene from Dumb & Dumber if you are old enough to remember) This is what got the last QB thread locked.
 
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Jeez....how many insults can one dish out before they are committed to an institution as mentally unstable? Come on Scholz....get it together, you're a blue blood program remember?
 
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