Texas Recruiting

[Oldmanastro]

From CTJ

When Anthony Hill lands on someone's campus, his NIL opportunities will dwarf what the average player on that team's roster are, for good reason. So no, his NIL will be like a QB or Bijan level of things.

Texas is drinking ATM's milk shake and this is only part of it. I've talked about it the whole cycle, but ATM got out over their skis with everything they've done, a lot of being despicable. If you can't back up the shit you talk and the dirty deeds you do, your enemies will feast on your entrails while you're still breathing at this level of warfare. They're reaping the whirlwind now, and it's going to be uglier than just losing Hill and Hicks. The portal is not going to be their f##king friend.

Also, Texas isn't the only school looking to kick ATM in the balls so hard that they won't be able to walk right for a month.

 

[Texasguy115]

👀

 

[weevilcatch]

From CTJ

When Anthony Hill lands on someone's campus, his NIL opportunities will dwarf what the average player on that team's roster are, for good reason. So no, his NIL will be like a QB or Bijan level of things.

Texas is drinking ATM's milk shake and this is only part of it. I've talked about it the whole cycle, but ATM got out over their skis with everything they've done, a lot of being despicable. If you can't back up the shit you talk and the dirty deeds you do, your enemies will feast on your entrails while you're still breathing at this level of warfare. They're reaping the whirlwind now, and it's going to be uglier than just losing Hill and Hicks. The portal is not going to be their f##king friend.

Also, Texas isn't the only school looking to kick ATM in the balls so hard that they won't be able to walk right for a month.

Wish I could dig up my post saying this exact thing back on signing day. Schools that shot their wad year one were going to end up in the shit. You have to be patient with this NIL stuff.

 

[diadevic]

I may be a little late to the game but --- was it ever confirmed how much A&M "collectives" spent on their 2022 class? Is it given up front, or renewable every year, or payable over 4 years? If they go to the portal, do they have to pay any back?

 

[Texasguy115]

I may be a little late to the game but --- was it ever confirmed how much A&M "collectives" spent on their 2022 class? Is it given up front, or renewable every year, or payable over 4 years? If they go to the portal, do they have to pay any back?

From my understanding, the majority of the big money promised to recruits is based on playing time, performance, and will probably never be fully paid out. Im sure aggie dropped a few bags of cash on these recruits but they’ll probably never see the full amount they were promised.

That’s why this NIL game is so risky for recruits. Do you really think a booster is going to pay millions of dollars to a play sitting on the bench or who is underperforming? Hell no.

 

[KChorn11]

Wish I could dig up my post saying this exact thing back on signing day. Schools that shot their wad year one were going to end up in the shit. You have to be patient with this NIL stuff.

Yep I think Sark is going to take advantage of all these aggies that are about to hit the portal.

 

[weevilcatch]

I may be a little late to the game but --- was it ever confirmed how much A&M "collectives" spent on their 2022 class? Is it given up front, or renewable every year, or payable over 4 years? If they go to the portal, do they have to pay any back?

My understanding is, athletes can't make a dime until they are enrolled and on campus. I'm sure there are hypotheticals presented and what not, but nothing can be signed or exchanged.

 

[Hoookem722]

My understanding is, athletes can't make a dime until they are enrolled and on campus. I'm sure there are hypotheticals presented and what not, but nothing can be signed or exchanged.

I’m not 100% sure but I think it depends on the state. Don’t take my word for it though.

 

[Metcalf #2]

Mr Hicks, c’mon down!

 

[Metcalf #2]

This is great and all, but I must admit I’m a bit torn. I’d love to have these players at Texas, but if you’re that disgusting of a person to choose OU or aggy to begin with...do I really want anything to do with you? Especially if you’re dad played for Texas???

So yeah, my brain says welcome aboard, but my pride says stick with your terrible decision, and I hope you rot in misery for it.

 

[weevilcatch]

This is great and all, but I must admit I’m a bit torn. I’d love to have these players at Texas, but if you’re that disgusting of a person to choose OU or aggy to begin with...do I really want anything to do with you? Especially if you’re dad played for Texas???

So yeah, my brain says welcome aboard, but my pride says stick with your terrible decision, and I hope you rot in misery for it.

Hill was seriously considering Texas in the first place...probably got glitzed by the aggie dog and pony show. Hicks on the other hand, I dont' think he ever considered Texas and always leaned OU or aggies. Bru McCoy in the making.

 

[weevilcatch]

I’m not 100% sure but I think it depends on the state. Don’t take my word for it though.

NCAA recruiting rules are still in place. Who the hell knows, lol

 

[KChorn11]

What has me most excited about the idea of Anthony Hill coming is the high 4/5 stars that Sark has landed Worthy, Sanders, Banks, Quinn have looked like 5 stars for the most part. Been. Long time since we’ve seen that at Texas.

 

[speedstrength]

My understanding is, athletes can't make a dime until they are enrolled and on campus. I'm sure there are hypotheticals presented and what not, but nothing can be signed or exchanged.

NIL is an endorsement deal. They can sign those contracts whenever they want to. Nothing the NCAA can do about it. Some states have rules about how much colleges can help facilitate those deals others don't.

 

[weevilcatch]

NIL is an endorsement deal. They can sign those contracts whenever they want to. Nothing the NCAA can do about it. Some states have rules about how much colleges can help facilitate those deals others don't.

I know it is an endorsement deal. You're saying boosters can just drop bags to kids???

Can they sign it and not actually do any work? What are the limitations? Restrictions in regards to schools/coaches?

I would imagine the NCAA can sanction schools for bad practices yes?

 

[speedstrength]

I know it is an endorsement deal. You're saying boosters can just drop bags to kids???

Can they sign it and not actually do any work? What are the limitations? Restrictions in regards to schools/coaches?

I would imagine the NCAA can sanction schools for bad practices yes?

Dropping bags is still illegal. Booster can't go say I will pay you this much if you come play here. There is some speculation that aggy boosters actually did that. NCAA can still sanction that but look at the 4 game suspension Self got. NCAA isn't going to touch this unless congress steps in and grants them some kind of Anti Trust exemption.

NIL is a totally different than dropping bags if you can get creative. This kids making real money are hiring agents and the agents are reaching out and negotiating deals. I still haven't seen one yet but I imagine its like I will pay you x amount for a social media shout out for my business and I will pay for somewhere between 10-15 of those this season depending upon something you do on the field. I would love for someone to let one of those contracts leak into the open. I am really curious as to how they are structured.

There are some State laws about how much universities can facilitate those types of deals. California had and I think still has the least restrictive regulations. Alabama was one of the worst. The schools couldn't help at all. That changed in February after Saban complained about the law passed in April 21

 

[weevilcatch]

Dropping bags is still illegal. Booster can't go say I will pay you this much if you come play here. There is some speculation that aggy boosters actually did that. NCAA can still sanction that but look at the 4 game suspension Self got. NCAA isn't going to touch this unless congress steps in and grants them some kind of Anti Trust exemption.

NIL is a totally different than dropping bags if you can get creative. This kids making real money are hiring agents and the agents are reaching out and negotiating deals. I still haven't seen one yet but I imagine its like I will pay you x amount for a social media shout out for my business and I will pay for somewhere between 10-15 of those this season depending upon something you do on the field. I would love for someone to let one of those contracts leak into the open. I am really curious as to how they are structured.

There are some State laws about how much universities can facilitate those types of deals. California had and I think still has the least restrictive regulations. Alabama was one of the worst. The schools couldn't help at all. That changed in February after Saban complained about the law passed in April 21

Okay, yes, this is how I have understood NIL. NCAA still has some say, although very little. The anti-trust is kind of what I was touching on...you can't just have a wild wild west practice.

2nd paragraph, this is also how I was understanding the NIL process. I too am very interested in how they are structured.

As far as state laws, I don't know as I haven't looked too much into it. That's for the lawyers, LOL.

 

[speedstrength]

Okay, yes, this is how I have understood NIL. NCAA still has some say, although very little. The anti-trust is kind of what I was touching on...you can't just have a wild wild west practice.

2nd paragraph, this is also how I was understanding the NIL process. I too am very interested in how they are structured.

As far as state laws, I don't know as I haven't looked too much into it. That's for the lawyers, LOL.

Go read the Supreme Court decision on the NCAA appeal of the O'Bannon ruling. The NCAA got torched. They really can't do much of anything to regulate NIL deals since they are between a student athlete and a 3rd party. Bronny James already has deals with Nike and Beats. Nothing the NCAA can do about that.

The booster deals are similar. I am paying you to represent my brand, business etc. Nothing the NCAA can really do to stop that if the deals are structured properly. If they tried they would lose in court again. Congress doesn't seem to have any interest in helping out the NCAA.

I think the only thing that will control this is the aggy debacle. Chemistry and fit matter. Throwing a bunch of money at highly rated players led to issues. I think I read that one of the 5 stars didn't even visit he just got money whipped. Good programs will figure out how to make it a value added proposition instead of the only reason a kid chose the program.

 

[KChorn11]

Looks like Toviano is going to be at the TCU game as well.

the result of the game may mean more for recruiting than it actually means in the standings. Texas still has a really good chance of playing for the big 12 title even with a loss the way things have worked out, but winning Saturday could have a huge impact in recruiting.

 

[Hoookem722]

Wilfong put his crystal ball in for Hill to the good guys. He doesn't miss much. I can't remember being this excited for a player in a long time. We haven't had a LB of Hill's caliber since Malik Jefferson. LB is the biggest position of need this coming offseason as well. Can't express how important it is to get him on campus.

 

[Hoookem722]

Looks like Colton Vasek is making his announcement at 4 PM today. All indications point towards the good guys.

 

[Drtxhorn]

Wilfong put his crystal ball in for Hill to the good guys. He doesn't miss much. I can't remember being this excited for a player in a long time. We haven't had a LB of Hill's caliber since Malik Jefferson. LB is the biggest position of need this coming offseason as well. Can't express how important it is to get him on campus.

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He would be an instant Day 1 starter as a true freshmen

 

[Hoookem722]

He would be an instant Day 1 starter as a true freshmen

He would be an immediate impact player I believe. Similar to Harold Perkins at LSU this year.

 

[Texasguy115]

Which one of you was this lol?

 

[weevilcatch]

Which one of you was this lol?

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Once upon a time I would've laughed that off as satire. But now, who the hell knows. Could very well be the damn truth 😂 😂

 

[LonghornMM]

I call BS on this. Ain't no one wanting to play for aggy these days. Their current recruiting class is terrible and their transfer portal is about to look like a New York subway train.

 

[Hoookem722]

Vasek just committed!! Huge pick up!

 

[Texasguy115]

Boom!!

 

[hookem777]

Anthony Hill shared Vasek's commitment on his IG story btw.

 

[okiehorn]

Boom!!

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Now his father doesn't have to pull for ou when they play TEXAS.

 

[hookem777]

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[Oldmanastro]

 

[LonghornMM]

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Wow!! If Texas wins this game with those kids there at the game, look out!

 

[hookem777]

who wants to be my 1,000 like lol

 

[Oldmanastro]