But those were at schools where nobody could have won.
I mean John Wooden couldn't have won at UTEP.
And if we get to the third round he will be back next year.
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I mean John Wooden couldn't have won at UTEP.
And if we get to the third round he will be back next year.
Haskins won at UTEP for decades (including a national title when Wooden was coaching) and Tark did ok at Fresno. But those were at schools where alot of coaches could not have won, including Rodney Terry. FIFY. Mic drop.
I’m telling you, it’s the pressure of coaching at Texas that screws up good coaches. Every team and fan base (especially) gets up for us, even when we suck. Everyone plays fast and loose against Texas. We almost never get to play as a true underdog.
That’ll get any coach second guessing every decision. A constant and unnecessary pressure cooker.
It is really damn hard to coach here.
Shaka Smart lost to Abilene Christian. Frank Martin got fired at South Carolina. No, I don't think Tang would've won a national title at Baylor. So Terry made recruiting pitches - on behalf of Beard.
All that to say - shove all that dough to Billy Donovan. A proven big time winner at the collegiate level. The game has changed a little - transfer portal, NIL, etc. - but I would rather start with his baseline than a .500 coach.
Rodney Terry is going to have to make a deep run in the tournament to get the UT job. Either that, or the top candidates being pursued by UT turn us down and we end up having to settle for Terry.
Frank Martin just got fired at South Carolina and in his time at K State only made it past the 2nd round of the tournament 1 of his 5 seasons. I don't really think that is proving your point like you think it is lol. Also, there wasn't a 10 season sample size from either Lloyd or Tang like there is with Terry. Not only that but it hasn't been quite a full season for Tang so the jury is still out on him. Who's to say they don't fall flat on their face next season.
Yea Shaka Smart lost to Abilene Christian. People put way too much stock in to what happens in the NCAA tournament. It took Bill self 3 years to win a tournament game st Kansas. He lost to Bucknell and Bradley. The NCAA tournament is a series of random events. Judging coaches good and bad based off of what happens is a dangerous game.
Frank Martin got to the final 4 at South Carolina. Yeah he got fired. So what? Most coaches get fired.
I'm trying to wrap my head around this. We can disregard the 10 year history of a head coach who has a .500 winning percentage - regular season doesn't matter. Now we can disregard the post season results of a coach that not only lost to Abilene Christian, but in fact never (NEVER) one even ONE NCAA tournament game at Texas. So what exactly is your hiring criteria for a head coach?
That was 57 years ago times have changed. UTEP does not have commitment you must have if you want to run with the big dogs. Schools that are winning big have lots of financial sources.
Nobody said anything about running with the big dogs. I just want a coach that can win against his level of competition. The fact is that he was mediocre against mediocre competition. His conference finishes at Fresno, in the Mountain West - 7th, 5th, 6th, 5th, 2nd, 4th and 4th. At UTEP, in Conference USA, where he had to regularly run the gauntlet of Rice, North Texas, Middle Tennessee and Florida International - 14th, 11th and 5th. I can't believe there are 2 of you that want him.
When some of these coaches come to Texas, they see all the money and splurge on things or experiment in ways that they haven’t done before. “Keep with the boy that brought you to the dance”. Shaka made more time for SJWing than coaching (it seems). He made it about black people instead of simply winning basketball games for the Texas Longhorns and the Texas Longorns only. Obviously, now that he doesn’t have the Texas stage and money, it is back to coaching and it seems to be paying off so far.
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Texas Basketball: Billy Donovan’s candidacy ‘building momentum’
Texas basketball is reportedly looking into the idea of the third-year Chicago Bulls head coach Billy Donovan as a potential candidate this offseason.
Darrin Horn remember him? He has his team Northern Kentucky winning their conference tournament and punching their ticket for March.
I just saw that. He did a really nice job here working with the big guys.
I don’t expect this to happen, but if we had to go the mid major route to find a new HC Paul Mills at Oral Roberts would be the perfect fit.
I agree with your post some while ago about Paul Jans (I think it was you). His only negative that I am aware of, is he doesn’t have a long enough resume at a P5. However , his HC record speaks for itself. His NMSU teams were always good. I had seen a few of those teams when they would come to El Paso and play UTEP.
Yeah that was me. Jans would be high on mh list. Really good job at NMSU coached Timmy Allen’s brother and Jarbari rice. I think sometimes people over think coaching searches. There are tons of coaches that didn’t have power 5 expierence before getting a power 5 job. Dennis gates at Missouri is another one I like. Missouri basketball hasn’t won 20 games in 9 years and has been a dumpster fire for much of that time. He wins 20 games his first year.
Scott Drew took arguably the worst situation ever at Baylor with no power 5 experience
Jerome Tang at k state had never been a HC before.
Chris Beard hadn’t been a power 5 coach before going to tech. There are many others.
I think we get too caught up in a certain resume. Really to find a good HC your looking for qualities and traits as much as resume.
We owe a lot on that new arena. Our ability to pay depends on the number of butts in seats. Texas has a small margin for error.
All they are saying is lower leg injury and day to day. My guess is if Texas needed this game he’d probably play. Since they really don’t need the conference tournament best to take it easy and get him ready for the tournament
Seem to be playing decent enough.
Also, Terry got named National Coach of the Year?
Also, Terry got named National Coach of the Year?
The sporting news coach of the year. There are several “coach of the year” awards. Still a huge honor
It was ok state is really good defensively. They like to make to make it ugly and they certainly did that. For the next few weeks though it’s survive and advance.
all 4 guards were outstanding defensively; all 4 of them. so was disu. not to say mitchell, bishop, or cunningham were bad. but those 5 were clearly outstanding. carr still isn't back to form but most of his misses were long tonight, so maybe his legs are back. SJR missed 3 wide open layups throughout the game that could have blown the game open. rebounding was better. we looked bad the first 10 minutes, and the last 3ish. other than that, we looked great. we won a game where carr, SJR, and timmy allen weren't rolling on offense.
side note-- terrible, TERRIBLE technical on NCOY. you can't give the opponent points in that situation with the clock stopped, 94 feet from the basket. i think the decision is made, one way or the other, but if he doesn't get the job you can point at that as absolute justification. either lack of control, or lack of situational awareness
side note-- terrible, TERRIBLE technical on NCOY. you can't give the opponent points in that situation with the clock stopped, 94 feet from the basket. i think the decision is made, one way or the other, but if he doesn't get the job you can point at that as absolute justification. either lack of control, or lack of situational awareness
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