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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (2016... the final rebuilding year?)

Yah... I have. I dont see where anyone is that much better than they where last year outside of OU. Have YOU looked at the fact that we return the most starters in the big12? I think Dan has great insightful contributions. At times better then yours to some degree considering his experience and knowledge. "Just keeping it real". His opinions are respected too. So not feeling you on that. But we will see. @Ketchum
I've seen these comments in each of the last five seasons. Just like these. No one ever returns to own their flubs.
 
It was an honest question @Ketchum
Do you call it a rebuild when you have your starters in place?
You do when one is a true freshmen quarterback, when both lines are anywhere from a mess to meh, when the kicking game is a major question mark and all your best players are sophomores for the most part.
 
Did you really want me to write about how I think the Texans should have made the move the Rams did instead of giving Osweiler his deal?
Ha. Actually that would be more enjoyable....wrong, but more enjoyable. ;)
 
How rare is it to have an impact true freshman offensive lineman? It looks like we are about to have at least our third one in two years.
Williams and Vahe were not impact players last year, unless simply playing makes for impact in your mind.

Maybe we need to change the definition of impact.
 
You remember those three games differently than I do.

Texas was getting boat-raced by Cal until a shot in the dark comeback. The Tech game wasn't an accident.

On top of that, the Baylor game comes with a serious asterisk.
Quarterback play or the lack of is partly why we lost to tech. 65yds passing just doesn't cut it. But in your defense, the defense gave up over 650 yds... So that
You do when one is a true freshmen quarterback, when both lines are anywhere from a mess to meh, when the kicking game is a major question mark and all your best players are sophomores for the most part.
ok. Point taken... Now, DO YOU have any positives??? Anything this team can hang it's hat on... What can this team do to win 8 games? I still believe this is an 8 when team. @Ketchum
 
Ketch has been in super negative mode for a loooooong time now. Now Texas has validated his negative views season after season, but it is old, I don't really read his football write ups anymore. I think Texas gets to 8 wins next season for 1 big reason, our schedule lost A LOT of talent, and ND and OU will be the only teams we face with equally talented rosters, although I think Texas' starting 22 against OU's starting 22 is quite a bit more talented.
a. You think the schedule favors Texas?

b. I have been in super negative mode during the time the team has failed to perform for half a decade.

c. What you call being super negative, I call being correct a lot.
 
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Your bar is too low.

I think he just realizes it takes time - Coach Strong took over a program almost entirely devoid of anything resembling a competitive D1 program from on-field talent to the back office support. It fell so far behind what elite programs were doing, it was literally a grounds up rebuild and that simply takes time. Was it compounded by mistakes that were made by Strong in hiring his staff? Sure, you could argue a season got thrown away but we're definitely heading in the right direction. Blowing that up b/c we don't win some magic number of games in 2016 is just not a smart move. I'm glad the decision makers are playing chess and not checkers -
 
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You're not understanding my point. Look at the current roster and then look again with what is coming in talent wise. It's completely different. I'm not claiming that the new guys are going to be All Americans, I'm just saying the group is larger and more talented than we have had in a long time. They will make an impact.
a. You didn't answer my question.
b. Define "impact".
 
Totally agree with today's 10 thoughts. There are going to be some games where Buechele will be running for his life and Swoopes will have to play to minimize injury. Horns will need all 3 QBs this year due to inferior line play.
It is also a reflection on CS's lack of management that special teams seem to have no priority on the team.
 
I think the DL will be fine with more bodies and if Naashon and Charles O. can be effective pass rushers.

That would make the defense top 2-3 in the big 12 with a top 2-3 running game. 8-4 or 9-3 for me.
 
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If the O-line can't protect against walk-ons, I really worry for the health of a young, undersized quaterrback. I'll hold my breath every time he drops back. We're behind you Shane, I just wish we could all be in front of you this year.
 
Once again another negative thread started by @CS, um I mean @Ketchum!

In a way I agree with you that the over/under is 7.5 games. I'm calling my shot at 8 games with Boo on board instead of my 7 game prediction pre-spring game. You come out and point out all the negatives and other than Buechele, list no positives at all! I'm not calling this team world beaters but how about these three points?

- Buechele is the best QB we've had since Colt went down. As a true freshman, he doesn't have to win the games just mange them and play within the system.

- Compared to last year, this offense is light years ahead and it's only going to get better as the year progresses.

- The back seven are nasty on this defense and if the freshman DLine can add some much needed depth then this defense can make some serious strides by year end.
I really like your write up better.
And tell @Ketchum to GetOffMyDitka.
Because his write up su-----, well let's
just say it ain't no good.
 
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a. You think the schedule favors Texas?

b. I have been in super negative mode during the time the team has failed to perform for half a decade.

c. What you call being super negative, I call being correct a lot.
I think your stance often come off puffed up in what you think and dismissive of others that believe differs from that. It's like I can imagine you saying "these people don't get it".
 
ketch..

which one is better

2015 or 2016

Offense

QB--- Buechele (2016) or combo of Heard/Swoopes (2015)
Oline--- (2015) taylor to shackleford feels at worst like a push the other guard feels like a push and a year of experience for the two freshmen
WR--the talent level feels better in 2016...your thoughts?
RB-2016 feels like a massive upgrade over last year
Offensive coaching--I think I give it to 2016 even though we havent seen it yes...


Defense
DLine---2015 feels much stronger, we have unknowns in 2016 with all the new guys showing up in June
LB- I think Wheeler makes 2016 stronger and an even better malik makes this an easy call
Secondary-No way its not better in 2016 with the experience earned last year

Special teams
Punter--dickson was pretty good last year, exepct more of the same with some improvement this year
Kicker-it will be ugly in 2016..
return teams-unknown to me, but I just dont see a step back from a very average 2015
 
You do when one is a true freshmen quarterback, when both lines are anywhere from a mess to meh, when the kicking game is a major question mark and all your best players are sophomores for the most part.

And when your best C is an early enrollee Freshman, when you don't even have a K, or when one of your current starting OL (Hodges) could possibly be ousted by Fall Freshman by the end of the season.

There are numerous questions marks littered in the starting lineup in the trenches and ST.
 
I'm not going to let negative nancy over here act like this team isn't going to show improvement from last year to make a significant change. Texas is 8-4 instead of 5-7 if we're on the other side of the 7 total points of difference. Thats pretty crazy to think about considering the amount of pups on the field.

The large majority of the guys that played last year on defense were all true freshmen and have an entire year of playing time and an off season under their belt. The defensive line wasn't great last year but I would find it hard to believe there is not going to be improvement considering the two DT's that played a ton last year will not be better this fall then last. We have 5 options at true freshmen and if i remember correctly ND had a true fresh at DT last year.

The offensive line WILL be improved.

"Breckyn Hager might be undersized, but he has upside off the edge as a pass rusher. I’m not sure he’ll play a lot in that role this season, but you can see the makings of a situational rusher." - Hager will start over Naashon this fall. The kid eats weights and is the animal CS wants to chase down QB's. At 6'4 and 230-240lbs he no where near undersized in the Big12.

Shane playing makes me nervous and will no doubt have to depend on a backup QB (probably Heard) playing a few times throughout each game bc Shane will take some licks but I have no doubt he will get the ball to the receivers. HH and DD vs. Foreman, Johnson, and Burt will make each other MUCH better. I honestly think Texas may play 2-3 games this season against a secondary of the quality we will put on the field. The competition in practice will make the puny corners we see in games this fall much easier to win one on one.

The running backs we have are going to TERRIFY defenses in the big 12. Foreman and CWIII are massive and very fast human beings. When the undersized linebackers of the big 12 get an early taste of those guys they will shy away just like the second team guys we had move out of the way for him. Baylor already knows what's up and they won't forget how it felt being trucked by him.

Overall, we return basically all the pups that played substantial minutes last year and these guys are not the same type of Mack Brown guys we've seen in the program. They want to win and put in the necessary off season work to see it happen. 7.5 is a good over and under but nobody should be surprised if we win 8-9 games this year.
 
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I think he just realizes it takes time - Coach Strong took over a program almost entirely devoid of anything resembling a competitive D1 program from on-field talent to the back office support. It fell so far behind what elite programs were doing, it was literally a grounds up rebuild and that simply takes time. Was it compounded by mistakes that were made by Strong in hiring his staff? Sure, you could argue a season got thrown away but we're definitely heading in the right direction. Blowing that up b/c we don't win some magic number of games in 2016 is just not a smart move. I'm glad the decision makers are playing chess and not checkers -

A) the "decision makers" had to hold the line against the real decision makers who wanted to remove Strong from his position last November. "Chess" would be positioning the university so that no one could make an argument that Strong wasn't given the full support of the administration (should they be in a position to fire him).

B) if our situation were happening at any other blue blood program in America, we (me, you, everyone of us) would be pointing and laughing at the historically poor results, full scale coaching staff changes, and the excuses and "we're close" from a certain section of the fan base. We'd universally agree that the other program is crazy for not making a change if the team hovers around 6-7 wins in the coach's 3rd season (which would give him only 17 or 18 wins cumulative in 37 attempts).

I want you to close your eyes. Do you see this program?

Now imagine it's burnt orange.
 
ketch..

which one is better

2015 or 2016

Offense

QB--- Buechele (2016) or combo of Heard/Swoopes (2015)
Oline--- (2015) taylor to shackleford feels at worst like a push the other guard feels like a push and a year of experience for the two freshmen
WR--the talent level feels better in 2016...your thoughts?
RB-2016 feels like a massive upgrade over last year
Offensive coaching--I think I give it to 2016 even though we havent seen it yes...


Defense
DLine---2015 feels much stronger, we have unknowns in 2016 with all the new guys showing up in June
LB- I think Wheeler makes 2016 stronger and an even better malik makes this an easy call
Secondary-No way its not better in 2016 with the experience earned last year

Special teams
Punter--dickson was pretty good last year, exepct more of the same with some improvement this year
Kicker-it will be ugly in 2016..
return teams-unknown to me, but I just dont see a step back from a very average 2015
This 2016 according to Ketch
If the team was stacked around Buechele in every single area, you might still be looking at an 8-win season at best. The record of true freshmen in their first seasons as starting quarterback turns out a winning record about 20-percent of the time.
but you just put this team at 7.5 wins with the current state we are in.. Might as well say 8 wins! I mean what are you really saying? Do you really mean this team wins 6 wins?
 
a. You didn't answer my question.
b. Define "impact".

a. Malcom Brown. Poona was also good last year and it can be argued that we have multiple guys coming in that have a way higher floor and ceiling than Poona.
b. I think of impact guys as guys who stand out among their peers. You don't have to have a whole line full of "impact" guys in order to be decent on the line. Compare our talent with other Big 12 schools. I think you'll find we'll have enough talented bodies to compete on the d-line in our conference.
 
I think the DL will be fine with more bodies and if Naashon and Charles O. can be effective pass rushers.

That would make the defense top 2-3 in the big 12 with a top 2-3 running game. 8-4 or 9-3 for me.
a. Naashon is just a guy. I think the coaches want him replaced asap. Cottrell is the guy that needs to step up.
b. This defense still has a lot of work to do.
 
If the O-line can't protect against walk-ons, I really worry for the health of a young, undersized quaterrback. I'll hold my breath every time he drops back. We're behind you Shane, I just wish we could all be in front of you this year.
The walk-ons were blocked, they just weren't destroyed.

Important distinction.
 
I think your stance often come off puffed up in what you think and dismissive of others that believe differs from that. It's like I can imagine you saying "these people don't get it".
I have thought that several times in responding to you today.;)
 
Once again another negative thread started by @CS, um I mean @Ketchum!

In a way I agree with you that the over/under is 7.5 games. I'm calling my shot at 8 games with Boo on board instead of my 7 game prediction pre-spring game. You come out and point out all the negatives and other than Buechele, list no positives at all! I'm not calling this team world beaters but how about these three points?

- Buechele is the best QB we've had since Colt went down. As a true freshman, he doesn't have to win the games just mange them and play within the system.

- Compared to last year, this offense is light years ahead and it's only going to get better as the year progresses.

- The back seven are nasty on this defense and if the freshman DLine can add some much needed depth then this defense can make some serious strides by year end.
I don't think this is a negative thread....I think its realistic.

Things are looking up, but the house isn't quite built yet.
 
ketch..

which one is better

2015 or 2016

Offense

QB--- Buechele (2016) or combo of Heard/Swoopes (2015)
Oline--- (2015) taylor to shackleford feels at worst like a push the other guard feels like a push and a year of experience for the two freshmen
WR--the talent level feels better in 2016...your thoughts?
RB-2016 feels like a massive upgrade over last year
Offensive coaching--I think I give it to 2016 even though we havent seen it yes...


Defense
DLine---2015 feels much stronger, we have unknowns in 2016 with all the new guys showing up in June
LB- I think Wheeler makes 2016 stronger and an even better malik makes this an easy call
Secondary-No way its not better in 2016 with the experience earned last year

Special teams
Punter--dickson was pretty good last year, exepct more of the same with some improvement this year
Kicker-it will be ugly in 2016..
return teams-unknown to me, but I just dont see a step back from a very average 2015
This team will be better in 2016 than in 2015, make no mistake about it.
 
And when your best C is an early enrollee Freshman, when you don't even have a K, or when one of your current starting OL (Hodges) could possibly be ousted by Fall Freshman by the end of the season.

There are numerous questions marks littered in the starting lineup in the trenches and ST.
Yeah, man, it's not rocket surgery.
 
I'm not going to let negative nancy over here act like this team isn't going to show improvement from last year to make a significant change. Texas is 8-4 instead of 5-7 if we're on the other side of the 7 total points of difference. Thats pretty crazy to think about considering the amount of pups on the field.

The large majority of the guys that played last year on defense were all true freshmen and have an entire year of playing time and an off season under their belt. The defensive line wasn't great last year but I would find it hard to believe there is not going to be improvement considering the two DT's that played a ton last year will not be better this fall then last. We have 5 options at true freshmen and if i remember correctly ND had a true fresh at DT last year.

The offensive line WILL be improved.

"Breckyn Hager might be undersized, but he has upside off the edge as a pass rusher. I’m not sure he’ll play a lot in that role this season, but you can see the makings of a situational rusher." - Hager will start over Naashon this fall. The kid eats weights and is the animal CS wants to chase down QB's. At 6'4 and 230-240lbs he no where near undersized in the Big12.

Shane playing makes me nervous and will no doubt have to depend on a backup QB (probably Heard) playing a few times throughout each game bc Shane will take some licks but I have no doubt he will get the ball to the receivers. HH and DD vs. Foreman, Johnson, and Burt will make each other MUCH better. I honestly think Texas may play 2-3 games this season against a secondary of the quality we will put on the field. The competition in practice will make the puny corners we see in games this fall much easier to win one on one.

The running backs we have are going to TERRIFY defenses in the big 12. Foreman and CWIII are massive and very fast human beings. When the undersized linebackers of the big 12 get an early taste of those guys they will shy away just like the second team guys we had move out of the way for him. Baylor already knows what's up and they won't forget how it felt being trucked by him.

Overall, we return basically all the pups that played substantial minutes last year and these guys are not the same type of Mack Brown guys we've seen in the program. They want to win and put in the necessary off season work to see it happen. 7.5 is a good over and under but nobody should be surprised if we win 8-9 games this year.
I'll buy eight wins if we include the bowl game.
 
Ketch you know I cut for you, but you gotta stop bombarding us with the soccer foolishness. We are Texans. We don't do soccer.
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I'll buy eight wins if we include the bowl game.
I think we are saying the same thing... I think you just see the things that need to be improved on with detail while we may just be excited about having a quarterback. 7 regular season wins is good for me with Shane B starting. @Ketchum
 
This 2016 according to Ketch

but you just put this team at 7.5 wins with the current state we are in.. Might as well say 8 wins! I mean what are you really saying? Do you really mean this team wins 6 wins?
Where are you getting six from?
 
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