Colt had a very good Oline. Give Card that same O line and he would have done even better.
Card will be the best QB since VY.
Card will be the best QB since VY.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (A little gushing if you don't mind...)
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In terms of first career starts, here's how Hudson Card's first start with the Longhorns measured against other starting quarterbacks in the last 30 years.
Hudson Card: 14 of 21 for 224 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 10.7 YPA, 187.7 rating
1993 Shea Morenz at Colorado: 23 of 42 for 347 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT, 8.3 YPA, 112.97 rating
1994 James Brown vs. Oklahoma: 17 of 22 for 148 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 6.7 YPA, 139.7 rating
1998 Major Applewhite at Kansas State: 16 of 37 for 239 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 6.5 YPA, 95.6 rating
1999 Chris Simms at Texas A&M: 10 of 21 for 130 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 6.2 YPA, 90.1 rating
2003 Vince Young at Iowa State: 11 of 15 for 136 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 9.1 YPA, 158.2 rating
2006 Colt McCoy vs. North Texas: 12 of 19 for 178 yards, 3 TD, O INT, 9.4 YPA, 194.0 rating
2011 David Ash vs. Oklahoma State: 22 of 40 for 139 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT, 3.5 YPA, 74.2 rating
2016 Shane Buechele vs. Notre Dame: 16 of 26 for 280 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 10.8 YPA, 157.0 rating
2017 Sam Ehlinger vs. Sam Jose State: 15 of 27 for 222 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 8.2 YPA, 136.8 rating
A few thoughts on the numbers...
* Six of those 10 starts came against ranked teams, with only Brown, Buechele and Card coming away with wins.
* Only McCoy finished with a higher opening-game efficiency score (194.0), followed by Card's 187.7 rating against Louisiana. There's almost a full 30-point drop between Card's finish and the No. 3 player on the list, which was Young at Iowa State. Of those three performances, only Card's came against a ranked team.
* The only player with a higher yards-per-attempt than Card's 10.7 on Saturday was Buechele's bombs-away performance against the Irish back in 2016. Only McCoy and Young topped 9 YPA among the other eight players on the list.
Overall, I don't have any major declarations about the performance other than to say it was very impressive and ranks among the best opening-game performances by any quarterback in program history. Was it better than McCoy back in 2006 vs. North Texas or Buechele in 2016?
It's too subjective to say for sure, but it's certainly in the discussion.
No. 2 - Arm talent in photos ...
I can only imagine how sick some of you must have been over the last month at the constant mention of Card's arm talent by myself and others.
Yet, there was a play on Saturday that was a perfect example of Card's arm talent helping creating a big play on what was a fairly simple throw to the naked eye.
Let's take a look.
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On this 3rd and 11, the Longhorns went with a five-wides look, with a trips set to the right of Card and twins to the left. It's a five vs. five look for the Texas offensive line and it did a good job of giving Card time to let his receivers get down the field beyond the depth needed for a first down. You can see in the picture exactly where Card is about to go with the football (see Jordan Whittington in the middle).
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As Whittington turns his head, Card has already released the ball. It should be a simple throw and catch, but there's a little more going on than meets the eye.
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When Whittington catches the dart from Card, you'll notice that there's more than two full yards of separation between Whittington and the defender closing down on him. In a game with incredibly fine margins, Card's combination of quick release and increased velocity is a big part of the reason why Whittington has so much room to work with. Another quarterback with a slower release and less velocity likely wouldn't have kept the first down from being completed, but it probably would have allowed the defender in question to close that the distance between him and Whittington to something closer to one yard than two.
In this instance, that distance is everything because instead of having a defender make contact on Whittington as soon as he catches the ball, Whittington has just enough time to actually make something happen in space.
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In less than half a second, the defender has closed down on Whittington, who is able to use that half-second to make his move, which will leave that defender grasping for air and Whittington running into space.
There's a lot that goes into this play, from the scheming to the protection to the route running to the move after the catch. It's easy to look beyond just how well Card throws the ball from the pocket and how quickly the ball arrives, but it is not insignificant by any stretch.
No. 3 - Just stay healthy, Jordan ...
It's taken a couple years to get there, but Texas fans everywhere finally got a chance to see what Jordan Whittington can do when he's healthy, used properly and plays with quarterbacks that look to get him the football.
Two months ago, I was calling for a 100-reception season for Whittington, but backed off of that projection in August when the hamstring concern popped up.
Yet, if he can just stay on the field, Whittington is going to make a real run at 100 catches.
In fact, if we project Saturday's numbers over a 12-game season, we're talking about 84 receptions for 1,356 yards and 12 touchdowns. Considering the Longhorns were fairly conservative on the offensive side of the ball, as you might expect in a season-opener with a new quarterback, don't be shocked if Whittington has a double-digit receptions game on Saturday at Arkansas.
Just stay healthy, Jordan.
No. 4 – ICYMI ...
(Note: Sorry about missing the post-game show on Saturday. I'll try not to let that happen again.)
No. 5 - About Bijan ...
In my mind, there's no question that he's a better football player than D'Onte Foreman and almost any other running back this school has seen in this century.
With his 176 yards of all-purpose offense against Louisiana, we might be looking at a legit Heisman finalist kind of season.
Just do me a favor ... don't say he's the best running back at Texas since Ricky Williams.
It feels like a major disservice to Jamaal Charles, who actually turned out to be the best NFL running back talent that the school has ever produced next to Earl Campbell. In fact, as much as I personally loved Williams as a player, we can't ignore that Charles averaged nearly 1.4 yards per carry more than Williams in the NFL, which is rather mind-boggling.
Oh, if only Jamaal had returned for the 2008 season ...
No. 6 - Scattershooting on the defense ...
... I thought Pete Kwiatkowski put together a very sound unit for a game one. It might not have been full of exotics and playmaking wildness, but the Longhorns kept everything in front of them, played sound technique and tackled well. When your defense does that, it's funny how so much else can fall into place.
... We need to get ready for DeMarvion Overshown and Luke Brockermeyer to have monster seasons on the defensive side of the ball. This defense feels designed for those two to rip stuff up. Their 23 combined tackles, two tackles for loss and one combined sack seemed to scream that we might be looking at two all-Big 12 players this year.
... Notre Dame transfer Ovie Oghoufo might only play at Texas for one season, especially if his multidimensional game from Saturday was any indication.
... The fact that you didn't hear Josh Thompson or D'Shawn Jamison's name very much on Saturday kind of reminded me of Quentin Jammer's best seasons on the 40 Acres. If you're only giving up a catch or two all game for 8-10 yards, it doesn't matter that you didn't create any turnovers. It's hard to create turnovers when the opposing quarterback wants nothing to do with you. Let's see if Arkansas wants to play with fire a little more than Louisiana did.
No. 7 – Unsung Hero Award …
I know Cameron Dicker missed a field goal on Saturday, but my goodness, he did everything else except sell drinks and hot dogs in the stands.
* Dicker was six of seven on kickoffs going for touchbacks.
* Dicker averaged 51.5 yards per punt, with both of his punts going beyond 50 yards.
* Dicker made good on his 49-yard field goal after missing his 45-yard attempt earlier in the game.
Don't be one of those people that only focuses on the one thing that he did wrong when he was called on to do so much and did almost all of it sensationally.
No. 8 - I don't know what to tell opposing defenses ...
I don't know how you defend Bijan Robinson when he lines up as a receiver, but teams better figure something out because this feels like a big problem if they can't.
No. 9 - Meet Arkansas' best player ...
This is definitely one that got away.
No. 10 - And Finally ...
Sorry for the abbreviated column. Here's to me not being sick next weekend and being able to throw 5,000 words your way after a big win in Fayetteville.
Nice to see you back on the keyboard.
Imagine Card's numbers had he stayed in the game.
No one mentions this, but I thought Tillman did a great job covering our game. He brings technical color commentary and really seemed to be a big fan of Bijan.
I was surprised when OPs got on Dicker for missing a kick. If we don't expect that to happen, we are morons. Dicker is a weapon and if he can punt half as well as Dickson he will win us games.
Only minor area of improvement I thought was there for Card, his longer passes seemed to be overthrown by quite a bit and lacked arc/touch. I would like to see him on target to test our WRs ability to out-jump and pull in some "50/50 balls."
Also, someone more qualified than me should comment on what went right and what went wrong with our OLine given that seemed like an area we struggled with on both pass protection and too many penalties.
Personally, I am just as excited about what our Defense looked like versus what Card pulled off.
I have a Top Ten idea for you. Phrases with the word, "Card" in it. What we will I am sure see/read all season long.
The comparison of Jamaal's and Ricky's NFL ypc average is bogus. Ricky played on terrible teams where he was often hit in the backfield before making something of nothing. He did himself a great disservice by taking time off from football during what should have been the best years of his career, but he still gained over 10.000 yards rushing, more than 2.400 yards more than Jamaal and significantly more than the great Earl.
Amen! The fact this was very noticeable is a huge indictment of the past 2 staffs.
So refreshing to not see diving at ankles and horrible angles.
Definitely dont expect him to miss kicks. Because he is good enough to make them. Hes been inconsistent his whole career. Hed nail a 57 yarder but miss a 45 yarder. Hit a game winner but miss a gimme 35 yarder. He needs to focus.
Great read, but then you had to ruin it by making me think about Jamaal and the 2008 season!
@Ketchum the breakdown of Card arm talent on 3rd and 11 was money. We have not had significant QB play for a long time that anticipates the opening and throws before they are open. Card is special.
And having a coach that will move Bijan around to get his touches is exciting. PK‘s defensive schemes and adjustments will make a difference for us. We’ve needed that.
And having a coach that will move Bijan around to get his touches is exciting. PK‘s defensive schemes and adjustments will make a difference for us. We’ve needed that.
There was mention of a player not playing in the game, a day before. I never saw who it was, was it Collins and why?
if I recall correctly, the one kickoff that wasn’t a touchback was still 6 yards deep and the return man probably made a poor choice in bringing it out.
All the factors you point out mattered just as you state. But you can also add that the pass hit Whittington - who found the hole in the zone and sat down - squarely on the No. 4. It was a totally accurate pass that was released quickly and arrived with velocity, and that gave Whittington time and space to maneuver. If he has to reach to one side or the other to make the catch, the defenders have a better chance to close.
Nice comment about Dicker fans are way to critical.
Stay healthy JW is correct!
Stay healthy JW is correct!
One thing about Card that hasn’t been pointed out is his anticipation. There were several occasions where the ball was out as the receiver was going into his break. That’s chemistry. That’s good coaching. And, that will produce lots of YAC.
We haven’t had a guy like this under center in a looong time. Far too long.
We haven’t had a guy like this under center in a looong time. Far too long.
I'd take Ricky's NFL career over Jamaal's without thinking twice.
Ricky made it to 10,000 career rushing yards despite missing a full 3 seasons right in the middle of what should have been his prime years.
So Jamaal averaged more YPC, but he played in a different system and his YPC wouldn't have been nearly as high if he was carrying the type of workload Ricky was in his prime years in Miami. Frankly he wouldn't have survived 4 years in the league if he had the workload Ricky had. He never led the league in rushing like Ricky did. Despite a lighter workload than Ricky had through his career, Jamaal was effectively done being an elite player by age 28 while Ricky managed a 1,000 yard season at age 32.
Ricky>Jamaal. He is underappreciated as an NFL player because of his drug issues and his time out of the league.
Hope you are correct but it’s one game.My takeaway from reading Ketch’s first thought:
Husdon Card is about to ascend Colt/VY status at Texas
So far Card is as accurate as Colt with a better arm. Not sure he is as athletic……
With you on everything except defending Dicker. Tired of that act. I shudder every time we line up for a FG. 39 yarder at home, no wind. Bullshit. Make the kick. He is a experienced player.
Other than Marion Motley, who was a fullback who played in the late 40s and early 50s, Jamaal has the highest YPC of any back in NFL history. I don’t think Ketch was going out on a limb. We’re all emotionally invested in Ricky because of what he did at Texas, but Jamaal was a better NFL RB. Period.
By a lot.
@ketc
@Ketchum why don’t we have a NIL volleyball player on here?
In terms of first career starts, here's how Hudson Card's first start with the Longhorns measured against other starting quarterbacks in the last 30 years.
Hudson Card: 14 of 21 for 224 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 10.7 YPA, 187.7 rating
1993 Shea Morenz at Colorado: 23 of 42 for 347 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT, 8.3 YPA, 112.97 rating
1994 James Brown vs. Oklahoma: 17 of 22 for 148 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 6.7 YPA, 139.7 rating
1998 Major Applewhite at Kansas State: 16 of 37 for 239 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 6.5 YPA, 95.6 rating
1999 Chris Simms at Texas A&M: 10 of 21 for 130 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 6.2 YPA, 90.1 rating
2003 Vince Young at Iowa State: 11 of 15 for 136 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 9.1 YPA, 158.2 rating
2006 Colt McCoy vs. North Texas: 12 of 19 for 178 yards, 3 TD, O INT, 9.4 YPA, 194.0 rating
2011 David Ash vs. Oklahoma State: 22 of 40 for 139 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT, 3.5 YPA, 74.2 rating
2016 Shane Buechele vs. Notre Dame: 16 of 26 for 280 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 10.8 YPA, 157.0 rating
2017 Sam Ehlinger vs. Sam Jose State: 15 of 27 for 222 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 8.2 YPA, 136.8 rating
A few thoughts on the numbers...
* Six of those 10 starts came against ranked teams, with only Brown, Buechele and Card coming away with wins.
* Only McCoy finished with a higher opening-game efficiency score (194.0), followed by Card's 187.7 rating against Louisiana. There's almost a full 30-point drop between Card's finish and the No. 3 player on the list, which was Young at Iowa State. Of those three performances, only Card's came against a ranked team.
* The only player with a higher yards-per-attempt than Card's 10.7 on Saturday was Buechele's bombs-away performance against the Irish back in 2016. Only McCoy and Young topped 9 YPA among the other eight players on the list.
Overall, I don't have any major declarations about the performance other than to say it was very impressive and ranks among the best opening-game performances by any quarterback in program history. Was it better than McCoy back in 2006 vs. North Texas or Buechele in 2016?
It's too subjective to say for sure, but it's certainly in the discussion.
No. 2 - Arm talent in photos ...
I can only imagine how sick some of you must have been over the last month at the constant mention of Card's arm talent by myself and others.
Yet, there was a play on Saturday that was a perfect example of Card's arm talent helping creating a big play on what was a fairly simple throw to the naked eye.
Let's take a look.
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On this 3rd and 11, the Longhorns went with a five-wides look, with a trips set to the right of Card and twins to the left. It's a five vs. five look for the Texas offensive line and it did a good job of giving Card time to let his receivers get down the field beyond the depth needed for a first down. You can see in the picture exactly where Card is about to go with the football (see Jordan Whittington in the middle).
View attachment 1471
As Whittington turns his head, Card has already released the ball. It should be a simple throw and catch, but there's a little more going on than meets the eye.
View attachment 1472
When Whittington catches the dart from Card, you'll notice that there's more than two full yards of separation between Whittington and the defender closing down on him. In a game with incredibly fine margins, Card's combination of quick release and increased velocity is a big part of the reason why Whittington has so much room to work with. Another quarterback with a slower release and less velocity likely wouldn't have kept the first down from being completed, but it probably would have allowed the defender in question to close that the distance between him and Whittington to something closer to one yard than two.
In this instance, that distance is everything because instead of having a defender make contact on Whittington as soon as he catches the ball, Whittington has just enough time to actually make something happen in space.
View attachment 1473
In less than half a second, the defender has closed down on Whittington, who is able to use that half-second to make his move, which will leave that defender grasping for air and Whittington running into space.
There's a lot that goes into this play, from the scheming to the protection to the route running to the move after the catch. It's easy to look beyond just how well Card throws the ball from the pocket and how quickly the ball arrives, but it is not insignificant by any stretch.
No. 3 - Just stay healthy, Jordan ...
It's taken a couple years to get there, but Texas fans everywhere finally got a chance to see what Jordan Whittington can do when he's healthy, used properly and plays with quarterbacks that look to get him the football.
Two months ago, I was calling for a 100-reception season for Whittington, but backed off of that projection in August when the hamstring concern popped up.
Yet, if he can just stay on the field, Whittington is going to make a real run at 100 catches.
In fact, if we project Saturday's numbers over a 12-game season, we're talking about 84 receptions for 1,356 yards and 12 touchdowns. Considering the Longhorns were fairly conservative on the offensive side of the ball, as you might expect in a season-opener with a new quarterback, don't be shocked if Whittington has a double-digit receptions game on Saturday at Arkansas.
Just stay healthy, Jordan.
No. 4 – ICYMI ...
(Note: Sorry about missing the post-game show on Saturday. I'll try not to let that happen again.)
No. 5 - About Bijan ...
In my mind, there's no question that he's a better football player than D'Onte Foreman and almost any other running back this school has seen in this century.
With his 176 yards of all-purpose offense against Louisiana, we might be looking at a legit Heisman finalist kind of season.
Just do me a favor ... don't say he's the best running back at Texas since Ricky Williams.
It feels like a major disservice to Jamaal Charles, who actually turned out to be the best NFL running back talent that the school has ever produced next to Earl Campbell. In fact, as much as I personally loved Williams as a player, we can't ignore that Charles averaged nearly 1.4 yards per carry more than Williams in the NFL, which is rather mind-boggling.
Oh, if only Jamaal had returned for the 2008 season ...
No. 6 - Scattershooting on the defense ...
... I thought Pete Kwiatkowski put together a very sound unit for a game one. It might not have been full of exotics and playmaking wildness, but the Longhorns kept everything in front of them, played sound technique and tackled well. When your defense does that, it's funny how so much else can fall into place.
... We need to get ready for DeMarvion Overshown and Luke Brockermeyer to have monster seasons on the defensive side of the ball. This defense feels designed for those two to rip stuff up. Their 23 combined tackles, two tackles for loss and one combined sack seemed to scream that we might be looking at two all-Big 12 players this year.
... Notre Dame transfer Ovie Oghoufo might only play at Texas for one season, especially if his multidimensional game from Saturday was any indication.
... The fact that you didn't hear Josh Thompson or D'Shawn Jamison's name very much on Saturday kind of reminded me of Quentin Jammer's best seasons on the 40 Acres. If you're only giving up a catch or two all game for 8-10 yards, it doesn't matter that you didn't create any turnovers. It's hard to create turnovers when the opposing quarterback wants nothing to do with you. Let's see if Arkansas wants to play with fire a little more than Louisiana did.
No. 7 – Unsung Hero Award …
I know Cameron Dicker missed a field goal on Saturday, but my goodness, he did everything else except sell drinks and hot dogs in the stands.
* Dicker was six of seven on kickoffs going for touchbacks.
* Dicker averaged 51.5 yards per punt, with both of his punts going beyond 50 yards.
* Dicker made good on his 49-yard field goal after missing his 45-yard attempt earlier in the game.
Don't be one of those people that only focuses on the one thing that he did wrong when he was called on to do so much and did almost all of it sensationally.
No. 8 - I don't know what to tell opposing defenses ...
I don't know how you defend Bijan Robinson when he lines up as a receiver, but teams better figure something out because this feels like a big problem if they can't.
No. 9 - Meet Arkansas' best player ...
This is definitely one that got away.
No. 10 - And Finally ...
Sorry for the abbreviated column. Here's to me not being sick next weekend and being able to throw 5,000 words your way after a big win in Fayetteville.
