Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (A total free-for-all)
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A couple of impressive tweets. This is what it looks like when you've got good coaches and young men willing to be coached.
Just stop. Nobody could give a rats ass what he was rated when he came out of hs years earlier.
He was just bad in the RRS in 2004 and had a qbr of 20 something . What is debatable in that?
Teams will adjust and Quinn will too. It's why I said Quinn was better and will be better than Kubnik. He has a football IQ and demeanor that is only God given. That's to go along with his accuracy and touch. I don't think he gets challenged as much as you anticipate. No one left on UT's schedule has a dominant defense. If Texas loses it will be for other reasons than Quinn.. I believe his next challenge will be in the NFL where the players are the best of the best and the D coodinators are the best at what they do.
ketch, who was that TE Mack recruited out of California in the early 2000's that looked like a first team all-american in the making before he blew out his knee?
the kid was big, fast and had great hands. never was the same player after a bad knee injury.
who else is re-watching the "ZerOU curb stomp" on LHN?
The Pirate! arrrggghh!
so if Sark had stayed at Alabama he would committed to Alabama?
Ketch i thought your Billy Joel list was solid i love uptown girl Christie Brinkly made the video great
B/S Arch is our back up QB next year Card & Murphy both leave
B/S Arch is our back up QB next year Card & Murphy both leave
exactly. right now USC has earned it's ranking. there's a lot of football to play yet but no one wants to be the opposing DC against USC.
Kiffin might finally be the coach Al Davis thought he was. 20 years later.
bahahahhaaaaaa
Vince Young was the greatest college football player ever. He had back to back games in the Rose Bowl with over 450 yards of total offense. Unstoppable in his prime.Vince Young wasn’t really that special?? Is this revisionist history class? It’s Monday - stop drinking.
Blaine Irby. Irby wasn't in this class.ketch, who was that TE Mack recruited out of California in the early 2000's that looked like a first team all-american in the making before he blew out his knee?
the kid was big, fast and had great hands. never was the same player after a bad knee injury.
who else is re-watching the "ZerOU curb stomp" on LHN?
The Pirate! arrrggghh!
so if Sark had stayed at Alabama he would committed to Alabama?
exactly. right now USC has earned it's ranking. there's a lot of football to play yet but no one wants to be the opposing DC against USC.
Kiffin might finally be the coach Al Davis thought he was. 20 years later.
bahahahhaaaaaa
The world is a funny, ironic place.
yeah. that's the guy. could have been a really good te at Texas.
here's what Brian Harsin said about him recently ..
Bryan Harsin reflects on Blaine Irby, the double-pass on the 10th anniversary of Texas' win at Texas A&M
https://www.on3.com/college/auburn-...iversary-texas-longhorns-win-texas-am-aggies/
looks like he works for AmEx these days ..
https://www.linkedin.com/in/blaine-irby-038ab361
A coach can’t make an average Qb awesome but it’s also the reverse. More good players have been ruined or hampered by bad coaching than the opposite.
let’s just leave it as it takes good qb play combined with good coaching to make a team that has dominant offensive play. Elsewise you are just hoping. But to say coaching is some dim shadow of second place is silly in terms of importance. I’d much rather have a great coaching staff than a great qb. Those come and go and the most you can hope is 1 great year. A great coach can give you multiple great years.
And all of that was after he posted a 20 something QBR in the RRS in 2004 scoring 0 points.
BEFORE Greg and Mack decide what they were doing wasn’t the right approach and that VY needed something different.
Coaching matters. Compare VY’s QBR in 2004 vs 2005.
Thatx silly. It’s only because college lasts 4 years, sometimes 5 but for anybody great only 3 years.
There is literally only a tiny window to see the progress of a QB in college. I have shown multiple times when a college QBs progression was radically changed by either a change in philosophy or a change in coaches. Any decent scientist could extrapolate that to all the QBs and let’s be honest players, who were short chanted by their coaching staff. You just don’t know about it because there is no time for them to show their talent elsewhere.
You think Bijan was utilized to his fullest?
Do you honestly believe that Bijan has show what he could do behind a team that was hitting on all cylinders? Of course not. In effect the coaching staff through having a really bad Oline or offensive play limited what his final production was going to be.
Couple things:
I. I could see your point about Ewers potentially having bad days ahead if
II. Texas' schedule for the remainder of the season is a bit overrated and there's no freaking way that TCU or Oklahoma State will finish the season in the top 10. The toughest team that either of them have faced up to this point is an average Baylor team, which is likely a 7 or 8 win team this year. Sure, they both have dynamic QB's which give them the ability to win any game, but they both are absolutely horrible in pass defense, ranked 110th and 126th out of the 131 teams in the FBS. Do you think either of these teams are capable of forcing Quinn into one of the bad games that you think he has in store this season?
If Texas can remain healthy, the only concern that I see for this team for the remainder of the season is their inability to contain mobile dual threat qb's that are fairly good at passing the ball. That issue will make TCU, OSU and Kansas and Kansas State somewhat dicey propositions, but I'm not sure that TCU or OSU will be able to stop Texas' offense. The only reason Tech beat Texas is that their defense is actually pretty decent and they were playing against Texas' second string QB, who was playing injured.
I. I could see your point about Ewers potentially having bad days ahead if
- Texas had an O-Line that looked anything like the one they had last year in pass protection.
- If Ewers had shown any sign of emotional fragility on the field.
- If Texas had a monsters row of tough defenses on the schedule.
II. Texas' schedule for the remainder of the season is a bit overrated and there's no freaking way that TCU or Oklahoma State will finish the season in the top 10. The toughest team that either of them have faced up to this point is an average Baylor team, which is likely a 7 or 8 win team this year. Sure, they both have dynamic QB's which give them the ability to win any game, but they both are absolutely horrible in pass defense, ranked 110th and 126th out of the 131 teams in the FBS. Do you think either of these teams are capable of forcing Quinn into one of the bad games that you think he has in store this season?
If Texas can remain healthy, the only concern that I see for this team for the remainder of the season is their inability to contain mobile dual threat qb's that are fairly good at passing the ball. That issue will make TCU, OSU and Kansas and Kansas State somewhat dicey propositions, but I'm not sure that TCU or OSU will be able to stop Texas' offense. The only reason Tech beat Texas is that their defense is actually pretty decent and they were playing against Texas' second string QB, who was playing injured.
Yes and if this is an emerging team like many believe then the defense has to pick up the offense when the off games happen.
I’m not sure how this VY discussion has evolved but from my perspective, he’s the greatest college football player ever….playing the most important position and was a man against boys at the collegiate level.
With a decent enough supporting cast, there would be no stopping VY regardless who’s coaching. Now the coaches helped assimilate a strong support cast which they deserve credit for….but to suggest VY’s success was related to coaching is a stretch. If good coaching is just realizing what a special talent he is to give him the keys to Rolls Royce, then so be it.
Coaching, over the long run, will always trump any player…but within a snapshot of time, freakish talent can trump coaching…it’s the reason recruiting is so important…the reason OB came to exist.
With a decent enough supporting cast, there would be no stopping VY regardless who’s coaching. Now the coaches helped assimilate a strong support cast which they deserve credit for….but to suggest VY’s success was related to coaching is a stretch. If good coaching is just realizing what a special talent he is to give him the keys to Rolls Royce, then so be it.
Coaching, over the long run, will always trump any player…but within a snapshot of time, freakish talent can trump coaching…it’s the reason recruiting is so important…the reason OB came to exist.
He would have been an excellent player, but Sanders is just in a different class.
It's really not silly. I mean... just rattle off the names of everyone not named Saban that has won a national title in the last 25 years.
Gene Chizik would still be coaching if Cam Newton could be his quarterback every season.
VY is the best player I've ever seen in college football... he was surrounded by future NFL players... had the best OL in school history in front of him...
and even he could go to College Station in 2005 and play a somewhat poor game.
It happens.
That really is the key... can the rest of the team pick up the slack when a down game happens?
In my lifetime, Finley was the most athletic TE the Horns have had. He had multiple b-ball scollies including Arizona too. He was a freak.
David Thomas was the most dependable, particularly in key situations/games, which moves the needle tremendously (10 receptions for over 100 yards in NC).
Sanders and Finley would be close for me in terms of athleticism. If Sanders can match or exceed David Thomas’ dependability factor over the remainder of his tenure on the 40, he could go down as #1. He could.
Also, I loved Bo Scaife. Loved him and really will always wonder what his career could have looked like if he didn’t have his injuries.
He was a freak as a leaper, but that's pretty much it. He wasn't a guy that got from point A to point B with elite burst and explosion.
8-4 still feels correct to me.
@stillwater and @manhattan will be tough, and QE still hasnt made a true road start.
This defense is taking strides but we have tough offenses coming up and if the O makes a mistake or two we could lose really any game left on the schedule.
Having said all that though, the arrow is pointing up.
@stillwater and @manhattan will be tough, and QE still hasnt made a true road start.
This defense is taking strides but we have tough offenses coming up and if the O makes a mistake or two we could lose really any game left on the schedule.
Having said all that though, the arrow is pointing up.
You may be right about Quinn having a bad day or 2 but I just don't think he's any more likely to have those bad days than say a Spencer Sanders or an Adrian Martinez and he has a much better supporting cast around him than those guys do. I agree that VY was the best college player that I've ever seen, but he was nowhere near as advanced in the passing game as Quinn appears to be. It was the threat of the QB run that typically opened things up for VY in the passing game and if a team was proficient at handling that, they could force him into doing things that he may not have been as good at.
I didn't remotely come close to suggesting that those two players (or any others) wouldn't have some valleys, themselves.
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