Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Herman needs Oscar Giles to be aces in 2019...)
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I meant that both ways. We're so far apart on the matter that I'm convinced you must think me a buffoon for not seeing it your way.
Ketch thinks the Dline recruiting has been poor and thus the talent isn’t there. CTH disagrees and I do too.
Fair enough. I’d like to end this civilly. I almost always enjoy your analysis and take on things.
Aldridge, Tucker, Gibson, Durant, Augustin, Bradley, Thompson, Joseph, Turner, Allen, Bamba. Of those listed, according to Wiki, all are still in the NBA except Gibson, who had a nice 7 year career.
Certainly no school in the Big 12, and possibly the country, has accomplished less with more future NBA talent than Texas since 2006.
Followup B/S; if they made fantasy NBA teams based on Alma Maters right now, Texas finishes first.
Our line will be good in 2020. Our DL scheme is the real problem. Our lineman mostly fill gaps in the 3 man front instead of being playmakers. We would recruit much better if we ran a base 4-3.
We need big ends that can also rush the passer. These have to be developed and takes a couple years. Our pass rush has been awful the past few years. We’ve recruited the elite at every position but DL. I think it’s the scheme more than the recruiter.
Solid take. In terms of what this line is asked to do, we have the players IMO. Roach can get after the QB. Coburn and Wilbon will lock down the nose. The key is Graham. He already is a solid run stuffer. If he can take the leap into becoming a solid pass rusher, we are there. Ojomo is the wild card in my book. Kid has talent galore and is only 18 years of age going into his second year. Crazy. He’s the kind of end that could bring the best of both worlds - Roach’s explosiveness and Graham’s girth. He can also play nose.
Oh shit, I just forgot about that. I actually still have it saved in a to-do-list.
Define "Roach is able to get after the quarterback" because I still contend that's open for debate at this point.
No worries, I just thought it was a timely question with the tournament and lack of recent success. It feels like we've had MASSIVE talent roll through here and almost nothing to show for it. Now we're going to add Jaxson Hayes to that list. But I'm so Texas-focused that maybe lots of programs have this kind of NBA talent roll through with nothing to show for it?
Forget the tournament, when was the last time a Texas team wind 5 straight?
I think his athleticism and explosiveness was easy to see as a freshman. He was poised to be a breakout player. The next two seasons were injury riddled, but still (as Craben states):
- In 2017, Roach had turf toe and only started 3 games, but still recorded 37 tackles, 4 TFL and 2 sacks.
- In 2018, he played LB in fall camp and the first 2 games, then went down with a fractured foot in the 3d game against USC. He didn't return as a DE until the 10th game, but recorded 24 tackles, 1.5 TFL and 2 QB hurries on the season.
This will be the first year that Roach has the size and strength to be a plus player as a down lineman. He doesn’t have the length at 6’2 to ba a great pass rusher, and needs to keep getting bigger so he can play DT in the pros.
I do think he will be have a great year and be our best lineman.
Do you have to be tall to rush the passer? I know it helps in batting balls down and being rangey in setting edge, but isn’t pass rushing more about quickness, leverage and explosion?
Dwight Freemey comes to mind. He was an elite NFL pass rusher at 6’1
Freeney and Mack line up on the outside and are quicker and stronger than Roach. you are correct but these are the exceptions. Roach is not that elite of an athlete IMO.
Kareem Hunt, R.O.Y. and rushing champion. Cut the start of his 2nd season for pushing a female to the ground during a heated argument. Looking the other way for Hill would appear children don't matter. I'm not saying he broke the kid's arm, but if true he has played the last for the Chiefs. The Brown's will sign him as they did Hunt . . . .
Definitely not for a linebacker. I would call him powerul and explosive. He will finally play where he belongs this year and will have an entire offseason to prepare his body and mind for it.
I am a roach fan, however. I think he brings an element of toughness that started to show at end of year and in the bowl game.
Has he though? Nelson's production in 2017 looks almost identical to Wilbon's in 2018.
