Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (History repeating itself with baseball hire)

[lightthetower0510]

Nah, you knew exactly what you were writing. When you have taken every chance you possibly could to spin your own misguided agenda in the past - why pass up this great opportunity? You didn't. You just attempt to "nuance" and "misdirect" your intentions a bit more than you have in the past.

Jesus. STFU.

 

[Pho King Master]

Hand guns kill far more people than ARs. It's not even close.

You have about as much chance of being killed by an AR as being hit by lightening. Exaggerating the threat weakens your argument.

A point about why discussing gun control at this point is a bad idea.

Islamic terror is an attack on our way of life. This was ISIS inspired. Americans woke up Sunday morning horrifies and united in grief. We understood that this was an attack on America and our pluralistic society, not just against the gay community. External threats bring us together. You kill Americans and we unite against you. But what does our president do in his statement? He introduces one of the most divisive political subjects that we have. Immediately the camps form and here we are today discussing guns instead of the horror of what happened and the ideology that inspired it.

I think it's an indication about how sick and twisted America has become when the discussion is centered on guns and not the victims or the seriously demented individuals that committed the acts.

 

[Perdy]

I get your point and I get that people will find other ways to kill if guns aren't available but we need to make it harder. It's just to easy to buy an assault rifle and kill a whole bunch of people for whatever reason. Path of least resistance.

I think that it is easier said than done. The solutions that get proposed won't change anything. I'm open to ideas. I just don't thing any easy fixes are available. If Hillary calls for bans I think that even Trump beats her.

 

[ClarenceBoddicker]

Because it wouldn't have changed anything other than the way those victims left this earth. I'm intelligent enough to realize he was killing a bunch of people last night regardless of how we tried to stop him. Take the guns away he could have bombed or burned the place down. I realize he used a gun and accept that as what happened but I'm not dumb enough to think guns are the only thing that allowed him to pull of this horrible act. Carry on with your drivel and see what changes regarding terrorism. It won't change a thing. They will use everything from rocks to bombs and anything in between they can get their hands on.

Ugh. Talk about drivel.

Signed,
A gun owner worried about more important aspects of the issue

 

[tex17]

If religion didn't exist.... Would people, in 2016, hate Gays as much as they do in 2016 WITH religion?

Well of course not.

 

[rp83cs]

so are some of the folks that think there was an absolute plan in place.

I don't get your point. Even Orangebloods was speculating and publishing 5 names that could be the next head baseball coach at UT early on. So how did the administration supposedly mess up by naming leading candidates. They were the same as what you were reporting. All those potential coaches got a pay raise by their team. That is why they are not coming to UT.

 

[Perdy]

Making that intent a little less likely to get his hands legally on a weapon of mass destruction is a starting point, not the end towards controlling the gun culture instead of the gun culture controlling us.

Consider that 50 US senators blocked a bill last December designed to keep people on terrorists lists from legally buying guns.

It was blocked.

You tell me why.

The terror list is a Kafkaesque sinkhole. Names are placed on it for unspecified and potentially dubious reasons and it is very hard to be removed. There are no strict rule or controls. We don't deprive citizens of constitutional rights because their name is placed on a list by anonymous bureaucrats.

 

[FriscoWolf]

Making that intent a little less likely to get his hands legally on a weapon of mass destruction is a starting point, not the end towards controlling the gun culture instead of the gun culture controlling us.

Consider that 50 US senators blocked a bill last December designed to keep people on terrorists lists from legally buying guns.



It was blocked.

You tell me why.

My point again is you can ban those guns but if someone wants one of them he will get them. I can point to a couple of posters that can always get those guns if they want to whether banned from guns or not. Let's try to fix the behavior.

 

[Ketchum]

Let's see how this plays out with the Florida AD retiring now.

Little birdie told me that the deal is fresh with ink on it. Wonder if he would dare bring a lawyer into it?

 

[Ketchum]

What's your plan? What do you want to happen? So far you have typed a bunch of words but yet to say anything. IE get to the point. What is your solution?

It's my responsibility to have a detailed plan before you'll engage in the conversation of a plan?

In the real world, great change rarely occurs overnight. We cut a million cuts these days, a in the name of pussyfooting.

There will be some trial and error, mistakes might be made.

However, every victim of every mass shooting that has ever been gunned down by those weapons of mass destruction deserve action instead of indifference.

Part of my plan might include a ban on folks named on terrorists lists from being to obtain legal arms in our nation. That sounds like a good idea, no?

You know why that law doesn't exist?

 

[Ketchum]

Hand guns kill far more people than ARs. It's not even close.

You have about as much chance of being killed by an AR as being hit by lightening. Exaggerating the threat weakens your argument.

A point about why discussing gun control at this point is a bad idea.

Islamic terror is an attack on our way of life. This was ISIS inspired. Americans woke up Sunday morning horrified and united in grief. We understood that this was an attack on America and our pluralistic society, not just against the gay community. External threats bring us together. You kill Americans and we unite against you. But what does our president do in his statement? He introduces one of the most divisive political subjects that we have. Immediately the camps form and here we are today discussing guns instead of the horror of what happened and the ideology that inspired it.

I get it.

You have no desire to have a nuanced conversation. Your points have been duly noted.

 

[Ketchum]

I think it's an indication about how sick and twisted America has become when the discussion is centered on guns and not the victims or the seriously demented individuals that committed the acts.

Discussing the guns in these mass shootings, it's usually the same one every time, is focusing on the victims and the demented pieces of evil at the same time.

 

[Ketchum]

Ugh. Talk about drivel.

Signed,
A gun owner worried about more important aspects of the issue

That's the thing that gets lost here.

I'm not anti-gun at all. Not even a little bit. However, I am anti-weapons of mass destruction being easily available to any ordinary Joe.

The gun freak segment lives in such fear of a slippery slope that t can't even allow for obvious protocols (such as banning dudes on terrorists lists from legally purchasing guns).

 

[Ketchum]

BTW, I just wanted to thank everyone for the civil discourse. Discussion is the first step.

 

[Ketchum]

I don't get your point. So how did the administration supposedly mess up by naming leading candidates.

Timing. Timing. Timing.

The execution of events was set into motion too soon. That should be completely obvious and it's a huge piece of hiring coaches these days.

Re-read that section again, please.

 

[Schloss2Texas]

Little birdie told me that the deal is fresh with ink on it. Wonder if he would dare bring a lawyer into it?

Seems odd that he would sign a deal so quickly without participating in real discussions. I mean how many conversations can they really have with his season still going on?

 

[Perdy]

I get it.

You have no desire to have a nuanced conversation. Your points have been duly noted.

From the guy who said that we are all in danger from AR style weapons. Hyperbole on your part tends to destroy any nuance.

My point is valid, but you have no interest in responding to it. Why go after a gun type used in fewer killings instead of handguns that are the real go to for murder? Seems like a half measure

 

[Ketchum]

We don't deprive citizens of constitutional rights because their name is placed on a list by anonymous bureaucrats.

Are seat-belt laws depriving you of constitutional rights?

Thus is the definition of letting the subject matter control you, rather than controlling the subject matter.

 

[Ketchum]

My point again is you can ban those guns but if someone wants one of them he will get them. I can point to a couple of posters that can always get those guns if they want to whether banned from guns or not. Let's try to fix the behavior.

The risk of serious penalties for the possession of these arms will make owning one very uncomfortable.

The gunmen (plural) from yesterday purchased their guns legally. Let's worry about the black market after we deal with the open market.

 

[Ketchum]

Seems odd that he would sign a deal so quickly without participating in real discussions. I mean how many conversations can they really have with his season still going on?

I don't have those answers. Little birdie didn't chirp THAT much.

 

[Ketchum]

From the guy who said that we are all in danger from AR style weapons. Hyperbole on your part tends to destroy any nuance.

Hyperbole, indeed.

 

[UTDB]

I think religion gives people who never cared, a reason to hate gays.

Why would gays make anyone upset, if it isn't for religion? They literally do not affect you at all. They hurt, literally no one, by being gay.

It's puzzling to me that anyone can hate then naturally. I think religion is the number 1 culprit.

From someone that was hit on twice while I was under 12 years old by gay men and barely escaped due to sheer luck, I take exception to the premise that they didn't affect me at all. I don't hate them as a group anymore than I hate men as a group that have committed horrible acts thru centuries but spare me they are harmless. They are like all other groups in that they have some very bad actors and some good people as well. Hate for whole groups is always wrong and it is wrong in the eyes of Christ as well.

 

[Perdy]

Are seat-belt laws depriving you of constitutional rights?

Thus is the definition of letting the subject matter control you, rather than controlling the subject matter.

No. Seatbelt laws are fine. I'm not sure how this relates.

I get that you want to stop gun violence. The problem is the 2nd amendment appears to say that your fix is prohibited. I believe good people can disagree on the interpretation, but my interpretation is very mainstream. Regulating guns is a much bigger deal than seat belts.

 

[Fansong77]

From the FBI website: Murders by type of weapon 2009-13

Handguns 6,501 6,115 6,251 6,404 5,782
Shotguns 423 366 362 310 308
Rifles 351 367 332 298 285

 

[UTDB]

I'd suggest very, very, very serious punishment for such possessions moving forward once deemed illegal.

Treat the possession of AR-15s like counties all over the country have treated marijuana possession...

How successful were the strict enforcement of marijuana possession in those counties? Did they prevent marijuana possession? Strange that the argument against anti marijuana laws is that they are ineffective and costly to the State but banning SR weapons would be effective. For the record, I oppose those marijuana laws for simple possession and being consistent, I don't believe that banning AR 15'a will result in anything but the whackos and Islamic extremists having AR 15's.

 

[streettopeschel]

The risk of serious penalties for the possession of these arms will make owning one very uncomfortable.

The gunmen (plural) from yesterday purchased their guns legally. Let's worry about the black market after we deal with the open market.

You think a guy willing to kill 50 people and who knew he would die during the rampage would have been 'uncomfortable ' by a tougher law?

 

[-Kirby-]

Man, that's literally some of the most dangerously dumb logic you could have given. That's the type of logic that an old person uses when they are afraid to go to the hospital and logically convinces themselves that they should never go to the hospital because they are going to die, anyways.

Again, I stand on a side that is willing to talk about many angles of this situation in Orlando. You stand on a side that apparently doesn't. It's close-minded and fear-based reasoning.

I would suggest having a conversation about more than ISIS is needed from today.

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This might have already been addressed, but here are some FBI murder stats you might find useful:

Year: 2014-12-31
Total Murders; 11,961
By Firearm: 8,124
Handgun: 5,562
Rifle (AR15's category): 248
Shotgun: 262
Firearm, type not stated: 1,959
Knives: 1,567
Blunt Objects: 435
Personal: 660
Poison: 7
Explosives: 6
Fire: 71
Narcotics: 62
Drowning: 14
Strangulation: 89
Asphyxiation: 96
Other weapons, not stated: 830

https://www.quandl.com/data/FBI/WEAPONS11-US-Murders-by-Weapon-Type

 

[FriscoWolf]

The risk of serious penalties for the possession of these arms will make owning one very uncomfortable.

The gunmen (plural) from yesterday purchased their guns legally. Let's worry about the black market after we deal with the open market.

People who are willing to die do not care about serious penalties and they will find ways to hurt or kill people.

 

[daflonghorn]

a. Ali and probably David Bowie.

b. Yes, Texas will sign a few Top 100 prospects at the very least.

From the LSR Top 30, Texas already has commitments from No.4 LaGaryonn Carson, No.10 Sam Ehlinger, No.17 Montrell Estelle and No.22 Damion Miller.

Among the players Texas is in serious consideration for is No.1 Marvin Wilson, No.2 Baron Browning, No.6 Walker Little, No.8 Anthony Hines, No.12 Taquen Graham, No.14 Chevin Calloway and No.21 Omar Manning.

David Bowie? really??

 

[daflonghorn]

a. Ali and probably David Bowie.

b. Yes, Texas will sign a few Top 100 prospects at the very least.

From the LSR Top 30, Texas already has commitments from No.4 LaGaryonn Carson, No.10 Sam Ehlinger, No.17 Montrell Estelle and No.22 Damion Miller.

Among the players Texas is in serious consideration for is No.1 Marvin Wilson, No.2 Baron Browning, No.6 Walker Little, No.8 Anthony Hines, No.12 Taquen Graham, No.14 Chevin Calloway and No.21 Omar Manning.

Need To WIN!!

 

[MrFruityNuts]

@losthorn [QUOTE="If a true freshman can move right past sophomores with a full season of experience, then those guys aren't likely to be factors this season[/QUOTE]

My comment has nothing to do with the abilities of the incoming freshman. It's more of an acknowledgment of Wilson's. We signed a very very good DL class and addressed a huge need and most expect them to have immediate impacts. That being said, a consensus top 1-3 player nationally is a different story altogether and would be expected to compete For PT from day 1 at any program in the nation.

 

[daflonghorn]

Sadly, the examples keep piling up.

I'm not sure I understand folks who say things like, "I can't imagine that something like that could happen here."

It's time everyone puts that type of naive mindset behind them. We need to get woke and stay woke. You can't fight evil if you are blind to its possible existence right next to you.

Denial will get you every time.

 

[daflonghorn]

a. AR-15s need to be banned. It's a weapon of mass destruction.

b. I'm not a guy that wants to see guns taken away, but it's silly to pretend that these guns are the same as others.

c. When exactly is a time to have a conversation about gun control. This terrorist bought his guns legally. The senate shot down a bill last December designed to ban people on terrorists lists from buying guns.

How many mass shooting with the same weapon of choice need to occur before we can have a talk about gun control?

Wake up.

Uh, no Ketch (on A)

 

[-Kirby-]

Well, there it is. Let's just never take any action and keep doing the same things.

Let's also ignore that a white male with the same time of ammo was headed to LA yesterday to do the same exact type of thing that went down in Orlando. Had he not been caught in advance, yesterday would have doubled down as one of the worst days in our history as a nation.

Of course you pointed that out.

Who says banning AR15s will fix the issue? It's merely a step in that direction, as opposed to never doing anything at all.

Which side are you on?

I'm on the side of liberty. Hundreds of thousand of people own AR15s that were legally purchased. Your answer to a muslim fanatic murdering 50 innocent people is to strip liberty from innocent, law-abiding citizens. ISIS wins in your scenario. They will have successfully scared us into stripping freedoms from our law-abiding citizens, all the while ignoring the elephant in the room.

That's the thing that gets lost here.

I'm not anti-gun at all. Not even a little bit. However, I am anti-weapons of mass destruction being easily available to any ordinary Joe.

The gun freak segment lives in such fear of a slippery slope that t can't even allow for obvious protocols (such as banning dudes on terrorists lists from legally purchasing guns).

Will you please stop with your "weapon of mass destruction" drivel? It's hyperbole at its worst. If you think an AR15 is a WMD, what do you think of the chemical weapons and warheads our soldiers found in Iraq? As I recall, people of your ilk made it quite clear those were not WMDs. Now, a freaking 223 AR15 is a WMD? Over twice as many people were killed by blunt objects last year than AR15s. As I said before, please stop with the hyperbole ... at least if you really want to have a serious discussion.

The risk of serious penalties for the possession of these arms will make owning one very uncomfortable.

The gunmen (plural) from yesterday purchased their guns legally. Let's worry about the black market after we deal with the open market.

Yeah, let's go after law abiding citizens first! Then we'll take care of the criminals!

 

[Pho King Master]

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Hyperbole, indeed.

I think AR15s are already banned (or severely restricted) in California, but was still used in San Bernadino by a terrorist.