Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (History repeating itself with baseball hire)
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The issue and center in this specific discussion is a weapon that makes mass murder via a particular weapon of mass destruction in the blink of an eye.
It isn't to suggest that it is the only area of conversation that needs to take place.
There are between 3-9 million of them legally owned in our nation. It's a problem.
Just to be clear, you believe any restriction to gun ownership is taking away your liberties?Of course you pointed that out.
I'm on the side of liberty. Hundreds of thousand of people own AR15s that were legally purchased. Your answer to a muslim fanatic murdering 50 innocent people is to strip liberty from innocent, law-abiding citizens. ISIS wins in your scenario. They will have successfully scared us into stripping freedoms from our law-abiding citizens, all the while ignoring the elephant in the room.
Will you please stop with your "weapon of mass destruction" drivel? It's hyperbole at its worst. If you think an AR15 is a WMD, what do you think of the chemical weapons and warheads our soldiers found in Iraq? As I recall, people of your ilk made it quite clear those were not WMDs. Now, a freaking 223 AR15 is a WMD? Over twice as many people were killed by blunt objects last year than AR15s. As I said before, please stop with the hyperbole ... at least if you really want to have a serious discussion.
Yeah, let's go after law abiding citizens first! Then we'll take care of the criminals!
Even banning people on terrorist lists from purchasing guns?
I would suggest using more common sense.
We want the same end result but disagree on how to get there. I am bowing out and getting back to Texas football and baseball.
3-9 million owned legally not to mention how many were obtained on the black market yet less than 250 murders were committed using all rifles combined (of course this includes non AR15 rifles as well). If you're going to focus your efforts on getting a "weapon of mass destruction" banned it may serve you better to focus on eliminating handguns or knives, since those are used far more often in murders in the US.
A couple of thoughts.
Obama is employing bait and switch tactics. Acting like there are simple safety measures that we can use with guns like we did with seatbelt laws and airbags is comparing apples and oranges. Guns are part of 2nd amendments (like it or not), cars are not.
I also noticed that he offered almost no specifics. It is always "common sense gun laws." Specifics get him in trouble because it becomes obvious that they are fairly meaningless and will not solve the problem.
I posted my concerns about the terror list earlier, you ignored. It is an unconstitutional nightmare to give our government such authority.
I have no doubt that as much as he may tell us that he doesn't want to, if he had the opportunity to ban AR15s he would do it in a heart beat. Kind of like he was against Gay marriage until he was through running for office. He knows that such a proposal would cause defeat for the Dems. They are gutless. I think the same for most of the Dems like Schumer and Feinstein. You admitted that you would be fine with it. His assurances are meaningless.
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More people were killed by Joe Biden's favorite weapon, the shotgun, than by AR-15s. To further put this all into perspective, almost three times as many people are killed by automobiles (32,675) than by all murder weapons combined. If you want to save lives, traffic fatalities is where to start.
Obama agrees. Remember his quote about how to solve the problem. He wants to take them away like you, but unlike you he will not say so.
"We know that other countries, in response to one mass shooting, have been able to craft laws that almost eliminate mass shootings. Friends of ours, allies of ours — Great Britain, Australia, countries like ours. So we know there are ways to prevent it."
Hmmmmm. He is referencing their confiscation laws. There is no doubt what he wants to do and gun owners know it. He has zero credibility.
Again, it's the ability to kill many people in very little time that is the issue of this very specific situation.
A guy with a shot gun is not shooting 100+ people in a club.
The Left is always willing to ban guns one type at a time. And they will do so, if they are able, until such time as the 2nd Amendment is moot.
FTR, I own an AR15 and I'm on the side of defending me and mine from criminal thugs, some Muslim - some not, and the Leftists who I believe will someday try and forceably confiscate all guns and leave us defenseless.
A) There already are many restrictions on gun ownership. We can't start this discussion with false premises.
B) I'm fine with banning people on any terrorist watch list. There needs to be due process, though, so the citizen has the ability to be taken off the list. Otherwise, it would be ripe for abuse.
C) I'd suggest the same to you.
If the Left had their way, all hand guns would be banned as well.
They are nothing if not incremental.
Not surprising, but do you think a terrorist would be scared away from purchasing a gun if it were illegal to do so in the US? I mean, the whole murder thing is illegal with pretty harsh penalties, but that didn't stop this lunatic from killing a bunch of people.
Just out of curiosity, how many of the guns that gang members use do you think were purchased legally and how many of the drugs that they sell were sold legally?
If Texas were somehow able to pry McDonnell away from Louisville, that would represent the very best that the college baseball game has to offer. No one that has ever worn burnt orange would consider that less than a success, other than you.
It's very clear where you are coming from. You believes that libs want to take away all your guns.
It's your boogeyman.
With the left it is all about control of the masses. ObamaCare was to control the masses.
Before Orlando here's the worst mass shootings in us history and the guns used.
- 32 killed at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, VA, April 16, 2007. Shooter used two 9mm pistols
- 27 killed at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, CT, Dec. 14, 2012. Shooter used AR-15 and two 9mm pistols
- 23 killed at Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, TX, Oct. 16, 1991. Shooter used two 9mm pistols
- 21 killed at a McDonald’s in San Ysidro, CA, July 18, 1984. Shooter used 2 9mm pistols and a 12 gauge shotgun
- 18 killed at University of Texas, Austin, TX, Aug. 1, 1966. Shooter used Numerous Shotguns, rifles and pistols
- 14 killed at Inland Regional Center, San Bernardino, CA, Dec. 2, 2015. Shooters used two AR-15 and two 9mm pistols
- 14 killed at a post office in Edmond, OK, Aug. 20, 1986. Shooter used two 1911 .45 ACP pistols.
You damn right I do Hoss.
You and yours have elected bucketloads of them who want to do EXACTLY that.
And those Washington Dims who won't admit to it are liars.
"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
seems like the AR-15 and the 9mm are the main weapons of choice when killers want to kill people in mass quantities.
Nope. The worst mass killing was at Wounded Knee. Our govt murdered 290 plus unarmed men, women and children. They had nothing with which to defend themselves.
Tell me that can't happen Ketch !!!
It already has Big Boy.
No, the President running our country is the real threat. Sit back and think about that for a moment.
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