Hackman was on my list and was probably No.12, but fully deserving of top 5-ish.
Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (It's all about Herman vs. Riley this week...)
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That doesn’t make sense... wouldn’t you rank teams based off who you think is the better team?
Well you just said You’d take Texas head to head... not sure we’ll learn much from this weekend unless Texas pulls the upset. Florida will lose by 20+
Of course the season matters, but in what context has Riley left Herman in the dust? Do you agree Herman has improved his program more that Riley improved his?
Herman did have more room for improvement, a function of the mess he inherited. Riley was given a fully developed machine.
a. I think I've laid out pretty clearly the context.
b. OU has been to the NCAA playoff three times, Riley has taken them two of the three. He's improved OU's recruiting profile at a time it was getting very stake. He's the most respected college coach in pro circles because everything he touches turns to gold.
You guys don't want to give him his love, and I get that, but he's been elite of the elite at Oklahoma. I would not describe Herman that way, at least not yet.
Riley is really good but the fact he stepped into a gold plated situation with a seamless handoff from A coaching legend with a program already fully built and ready to hum can’t be ignored. How he would be doing if he had to take over OU in a total dumpster fire condition that was proceeded by multiple 5 win seasons in a rebuild job won’t ever be known. That doesn’t downgrade the job he’s doing but it’s hard to compare to Herman. Now that CTH has Texas back to recruiting lights out, loaded with good young talent with more On the way, and already ranked top 10ish the next few years will say a lot provided Riley actually stays around spurning likely massive nfl offers
I'll be shocked if he matches the number of years Herman will spend in Austin.
When we talk about the seamless handoff, how much time did he have to prepare for being the head coach in year one... a year he produced a Heisman winner, a Big 12 title and a playoff appearance?
I agree, but is it irrelevant what I mentioned regarding defense playing soft at the end of games
What worries me is that Texas will call a conservative game on offense, trying to keep ou's offense off the field, and it will stall the offense. Too often we have been in sync, moving the ball, then after taking the lead, become conservative in the play calls and other teams know it and adjust their defense and stop us. We need to run the offense that allows us to move the ball the best, not change what we are the best at in order to play keep away. We are not to the point of being able to run whatever offense we what whenever we want.
remains to be seen. I think sometimes you have the backups in and you allow points.
Some of 'us guys' say that it's orders of magnitude easier to step in and maintain or even improve a very well functioning organization than it is to rebuild one that's in shambles.
I can buy that. And in general I'm all positive on this team. But, it was a lot easier for me to stomach letting Ok St score late with their high-powered offense, before I saw them struggle so mightily against Tech. And I was way less able to stomach letting WVA score, one of the weaker offenses in the conference. So I wasn't sure how to look at those stats
Of the things I'm concerned about for this team, that ain't really one of them, even though I do get it.
It seems like this concern early, the inability for anyone but the starters to stop players on the field, really did bite Texas down the stretch. What wasn't expected was that the offense would let the team down (in games such as Oklahoma). We will see how these final few games play out...
