Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (Losing the battle, but winning the war?)
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I'm with you more than I'm not. I think Quinn was 7/10 Saturday, but not a major quibble.
My point was today's narrative if one play was different I believe would be a lot different. Nothing more.
Really?
Ketch...
"Texas doesn't need Quinn to even be that good. They just need him not to be terrible for 30-45 minutes of game time every single week. His floor just needs to rise to the level of pretty good and this team is undefeated."
Yeah, I wouldn't call that blaming Quinn for the loss, or how bout every one of our losses...
* one offensive touchdown
* 2 of 7 for 5 yards and a sack on his last 8 pass plays.
* Middle half of the game was played at worst QB in the nation efficiency (again).
* 122 overall game rating
5/10
The numbers say he’s Quinn Ewers with 50 extra yards rushing a game. I get you don’t respect his game, but numbers don’t lie. And you can’t compare the talent level on the teams or the culture. Sam’s team was extorting Texas to remove The Eyes and give money to BLM. And let’s not even discuss the confidence level of scoring at the end of the game and in the red zone.
Yes, people like me do believe that Texas could be better with a different QB. Your thinking is flawed when you say 31 teams should be ranked ahead of us; the quarterback is not the only element that creates a championship team. But when the rest of the elements are in place to be elite, a confident, reliable quarterback can make all the difference in the world between being #5 and #1.
It's a fallacy to suggest I'm putting all of the accountability and responsibility on his shoulders.
I respect his game. He was simply capable of some rotten performances (see Tech as a senior).
I’m confused. You are citing a game he put up 63 points as rotten? Quinn is putting up 16-20 points a game.
Going into the fourth quarter of that game, fans were loudly calling for Casey Thompson to replace him.
Only a frantic late comeback prevented the loss, but he was wretched for 80% of that game.
If I'm doing my math correct, there is 60 minutes in a game. I'm guessing Quinn has about half of that time, I think we had the ball about 31 minutes in this game. Of course you need to take out special teams play with the ball. I would say that's a crap ton of blame going toward Mr Quinn since you're saying he's terrible 30 to 45 minutes of game time. Pretty much blame for the whole offense. Good job Ketch, any simpleton thoughts there?
@Ketchum not exactly related to this column, but just wanted to shout out your “hot take” from the show this morning on Bond and Banks. Couldn’t agree more that those guys need to sit until the semis, not even really sure it should be a hot take. If you can’t beat Clemson and ASU w/o those two guys you’re not good enough anyways, and you really need Bond and Banks as close to 100% as possible for that semi game or it doesn’t really matter imo
Well the remaining 20% was awesome. We put up 63 points and won on the road despite a shit coach and a shit culture. Anyway this is crazy talk. Sam threw for like 360 yards with 5 TD and 1 INT and had 69 yards rushing and a TD. This site, posters and mods, needs to put some respect on Sam’s name. Quinn is a fvcking JAG that has the benefit of tons of super blue chips and a great culture. Sam carried the team to four bowl wins despite Big Herm being the coach.
We are supposed to accept your informal and misused version of gaslighting? For a guy that says words matter, it sure looks disingenuous to use something other than the correct usage of the term.
This is not gaslighting.
Most of the criticism you are receiving is from posters that said he played well enough to win if some of the other 20 to 30 players that touched the field didn't miss their opportunities to not ferk up. You know this, so why pretend your version of gaslighting is occurring?
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Again imo he is the Tony Romo of college football, great stats on paper, but can’t win the big games and undependable in crunch time.
You're putting words into my mouth that have never been said. How about you put some respect on my name by correctly representing my thoughts.
Really? I don't think I said this... This is your quote...
"Texas doesn't need Quinn to even be that good. They just need him not to be terrible for 30-45 minutes of game time every single week. His floor just needs to rise to the level of pretty good and this team is undefeated."
I for one appreciate that it’s refreshing. For some reason some people no matter what will defend bad play and are afraid to just speak the honest truth? Why is it we can be honest and criticize all professional teams, but when it comes to your college team people wear rose colored glassses?
I’ve always found that kinda funny. I mean I get it that they graduated from that school, but where in the rule book does it say you can’t criticize bad play?
I for one would like nothing more than to see QE do really well because obviously that means my Horns are winning and playing well, but when a player is obviously struggling why can’t we hope for him to get better or be replaced?
My comparison was that while most loved Romo and had great stats, he could never win the big games or playoffs and seems to me this will be legacy for QE nice player and good decent stats but never won the big games.
That is fine; however, remember some of us accept QE for who and what he is as player and not for what we want him to be. I think there are very few fans that think QE is something that he isn't.
I would bet any amount of money that QE won’t sniff the first or second round NFL draft, he’s a third or fourth round choice if he’s lucky, he could easily go completely undrafted because of his injury history.
While I agree that having a healthy Bond is a plus for the offense, I will go ahead and add gas to the fire and suggest that the bigger factor in Bond's productivity is who is running the offense.
Bond's 3 most productive receiving games this season, not surprisingly, were when Manning was at QB.
UTSA - 5-103 2 TD's (1 from Quinn)
ULM - 2-75
MSU - 5-74
Games with Quinn pre-injury
CSU - 5-61 1 TD
Mich - 3-51
He has 13 total catches since Quinn returned from injury.
This isn't rocket science.
That's the thing Ketch, you of all people should realize that your words matter. And you know good and well, that statement is just false. Yes, fans always blame the QB for losses and give them too much credit for wins. But you know better than to say what you're saying on this. The play calling in the second half set up Quinn to fail many times with the slow developing plays. Quinn played well enough for us to win this game. The 2nd half play calling was a huge reason for our coming up short.
Every QB performs poorly under pressure. You can make a strong case Sark should of played Arch, since our QB needed to run away from pressure. Quinn can't do that hobled, and isn't a running QB to begin with. Quinn has played hurt most of this season, he's playing to try and help the team win, Sark needs Quinn to play or he thinks he does. It's just crazy to throw those kind of statements out there..
Well let’s think about that statement for a second. You might remember that when he signed with Texas 3 years ago he was touted as the number one QB in the country the best at his position.
Looking back in the mirror does anyone now think he looks like the best at his position in the country or the number one QB? We can say he has for sure progressed and gotten better from his first and even second year here, but to say we knew from the beginning we were getting a mediocre QB that chokes in the big games isn’t true and being honest.
I hate saying that because I want him to be that #1 QB we thought we were getting, but it’s not who he is or was, he turned out to be another over hyped kid out of a system HS that looks great on paper, but disappoints at the higher level.
This is why I think he will struggle if he plays in the NFL, some team that takes QE better have a team psychologist on staff that can get into his head to see why he struggles so much mentally and physically.
That team imo is going to have to break him down and we build him again.
For those reasons this is why I believe we got sold a bill of goods with QE, he sometimes looks good, not great but it’s obvious that the simple blue print on Quinn is to blitz him and make him feel flustered and then he will throw INT’s or take the sacks.
