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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (Shaka is a damn good coach)

It's curious how so few want to answer the Andrew Jones question.

Hmmm....
 
Hypotheticals seem ridiculous to me. What if TCU makes the layup to win the first OT game, what if Matt Coleman doesn't hit a floater in the last seconds and Texas loses to 15-12 Tennessee State. We can play that game all day long. I mean, does Shaka hang on to his job losing to Tennessee State and missing the tournament a year after losing to Texas' sister school?
answer the question.
 
We’ve had two top ten national players and that “great coach” couldn’t win jack with either. It’s so bad that Allen is looking like a damn steal for the NETS..... I wanted Barnes fired just as much as the next guy and celebrated the hiring of Shaka but had you told me where we stand today as far as records and stats I would’ve rather hired Avery johnson
Allen developed at a very fast rate under Smart. Best part of last season and he deserves credit for that. It's the only thing from last year he can hang his hat on.
And that amounted to the worst season in school history. Yeah that’s great for Texas! What a great coach I mean all the greats have their name next to “worst record in school history” it’s a thing for a P5 school with all the resources. Why don’t you use that search bar and find a negative post from about smart at any point last season. It hasn’t been an agenda he has just been that terrible and I genuinely thought this would be a good year with or without jones once we signed bamba. Look that up to, I thought coaching would be what it was supposed to be and it hasn’t been.
 
It's a 16-11 team with a ton of close losses, many without Jones.

Even if the answer is only two... suddenly the team is 18-9 and probably a top 7 seed, given its resume of good wins.
 
And that amounted to the worst season in school history. Yeah that’s great for Texas! What a great coach I mean all the greats have their name next to “worst record in school history” it’s a thing for a P5 school with all the resources. Why don’t you use that search bar and find a negative post from about smart at any point last season. It hasn’t been an agenda he has just been that terrible and I genuinely thought this would be a good year with or without jones once we signed bamba. Look that up to, I thought coaching would be what it was supposed to be and it hasn’t been.
You're arguing with yourself. I've used the word disaster 1,000 times to describe last season.
 
Just like there are plenty of posts/points that make points that you're skipping over - Yup
I haven't skipped over anything. You saying it doesn't make it true,just repetitive.
 
And that amounted to the worst season in school history. Yeah that’s great for Texas! What a great coach I mean all the greats have their name next to “worst record in school history” it’s a thing for a P5 school with all the resources. Why don’t you use that search bar and find a negative post from about smart at any point last season. It hasn’t been an agenda he has just been that terrible and I genuinely thought this would be a good year with or without jones once we signed bamba. Look that up to, I thought coaching would be what it was supposed to be and it hasn’t been.
Here's the list of damn good coaches who are responsible for the worst seasons in their programs' 100+ year history:

Shaka Smart













Quite the list.
 
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And that amounted to the worst season in school history. Yeah that’s great for Texas! What a great coach I mean all the greats have their name next to “worst record in school history” it’s a thing for a P5 school with all the resources. Why don’t you use that search bar and find a negative post from about smart at any point last season. It hasn’t been an agenda he has just been that terrible and I genuinely thought this would be a good year with or without jones once we signed bamba. Look that up to, I thought coaching would be what it was supposed to be and it hasn’t been.
You're arguing with yourself. I've used the word disaster 1,000 times to describe last season.
You should use it for this season, you should use it for how smart has performed since being hired. You don’t you make excuses. I’m done.
 
Here's the list of damn good coaches who are responsible for the worst seasons in their programs' 100+ year history:

Shaka Smart













Quite the list.
You're so hung up on last season, perhaps fairly so, that you can't have a reasonable discussion about this season.

Again, I pointed that out in the article that it was the case for many.
 
You should use it for this season, you should use it for how smart has performed since being hired. You don’t you make excuses. I’m done.
I have discussed his performance.

OK in year one, terrible in year two and damn good in year three.

It hasn't amounted to anything of substance yet.

Yes, you're arguing with yourself.
 
Shaka gets ONE must needed win out of many and you go on a rant about how good he is?

Lets talk more after the season bruh....there's still a very good chance he lands in the NIT.
 
Here's the list of damn good coaches who are responsible for the worst seasons in their programs' 100+ year history:

Shaka Smart













Quite the list.
You're so hung up on last season, perhaps fairly so, that you can't have a reasonable discussion about this season.

Again, I pointed that out in the article that it was the case for many.
He is hung up on a coach that is about to miss the tourney two straight years with top talent. He has won with Barnes’s players and that’s it. I wanted Barnes fired because it wasn’t achieving enough. Now I just have to be happy with gold stars and atta boys. “We are Texas” right?
 
Shaka gets ONE must needed win out of many and you go on a rant about how good he is?

Lets talk more after the season bruh....there's still a very good chance he lands in the NIT.
To a team that’s lost 10 straight and getting worse.
 
Those aren't all the facts.

You forgot these facts.

Instead of focusing on what he hasn't done with this team, let's focus on what he has done, which is take one of youngest teams in the country (four in the top seven of the current rotation are freshmen) and put it on the door-step of the NCAA Tournament, despite playing in the toughest conference in the country.

A conference so tough that if the team shows up on any given night and plays like a team full of wide-eyed freshmen, an ass-kicking will commence, no matter the opponent.

Oh, and did I mention that along the way he'd lost his best scorer for the rest of the season because of a battle with cancer?

Texas now has six wins against RPI Group 1 teams, which is among the highest marks in the entire country.

Of its 11 losses this season, seven were to teams that went into this week ranked inside the AP Top 25 - No. 7 Texas Tech, No. 9 Gonzaga, No. 12 Duke, No. 13 Kansas, No. 20 West Virginia and No. 22 Michigan.

Three of those loses went into overtime. Two of the three that finished in regulation were lost by six and two points, respectively.

Do you think Mike Krzyzewski walked off the floor in November and thought, "If only that really young team that dominated my team for much of the game had a good coach?"

Do you think that likely Big 12 Coach of the Year Mike Beard thought to himself, "Yeah, that team was down Andrew Jones and pushed us on our home floor as much as anyone has all year ... if they only had a good coach."

Do you think Lon Krugar is thinking to himself this weekend, "How did we lose twice to a team with shitty coaching?"

A bunch of those are opinions and excuses not facts. To be honest I am not sure how anyone could say Shaka is a great coach based on what we have seen since he has been at Texas. I think he deserves another year but I could also see Texas letting him go. I'd like to see him get another year but saying he is a great coach based on what he has done the last three years is foolish.
 
You're so hung up on last season, perhaps fairly so, that you can't have a reasonable discussion about this season.

Again, I pointed that out in the article that it was the case for many.
Rick Barnes missed the tournament once in 17 seasons and was fired the year he had the same success as Shaka's best season. If Shaka is a damn good coach, has Barnes reached GOAT status?
 
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Probably my least favorite thing about this site is when Ketch posts something that 99 percent of the people on his site disagree with and then acts indignant that it happens. I hate the condescending attitude. It’s a subjective use of facts to build an argument and come to a conclusion that is undoubtedly an opinion. That’s a fact. Your opinion isn’t more worthy in and of itself than anyone else’s.

Shaka gets another year and then he can likely go be a damn good coach somewhere else. That’s my opinion. Still love the site. Just prefer content from other contributors than Ketch.

Everyone is basically arguing over your central theme of him being a damn good coach. Who cares? Like you have agreed. He has underachieved overall at Texas and isn’t performing at a sustainable level. One more year. He will likely be gone after that. I really hope he proves me wrong. I really do.
 
How many more games would this team have won this year with a healthy Andrew Jones?

Riddle me that.
It's curious how so few want to answer the Andrew Jones question.

Hmmm....

Wait, can we measure a coaches' success based on what-ifs now?

So Mack wins three national championships if Gideon catches the INT in '08 and Colt doesn't get hurt in '09?

Charlies wins 9 games in his first year if Ash doesn't get hurt?

Tom's team in his first year (eerily similar to this year's MBB team with their close game woes) doesn't lose those close games if a ball bounces the other way, if Connor Williams doesn't get hurt, if Ehlinger doesn't get concussed.

If "maybes" were part of the equation, a lot more coaches would still be employed...
 
Shaka gets ONE must needed win out of many and you go on a rant about how good he is?

Lets talk more after the season bruh....there's still a very good chance he lands in the NIT.
can you quote the part youspecifically disagree with?

To be fair, the team is among the leaders in the nation in quality wins.
 
He actually admitted that Shaka had not been a success at Texas so far.
A good coach, but without success. Whatever the hell that means. I'm impressed he could even make that theme the centerpoint of an article.

Then be consistent. Call Charlie strong a damn good coach after his 3rd year. The parallels couldn’t be any more similar. Both had one good year before they got to Texas. Both made a post season appearance their first Season at Texas. Both had miserable 2nd and 3rd seasons. Both were basically .500 coaches at Texas. So both are damn good coaches?

This is what happens when you sensationalize an article title. I like Shaka and hope he somehow becomes a great coach at Texas. I’d like to see that. But he’s been damn disappointing. And it’s actually his coaching that has been disappointing.
 
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I actually like Shaka, the man, also.
And that means something. I'm afraid the more battered we are as fans, though, the less compelling that becomes.
No doubt. Truer words have never been written.
 
A bunch of those are opinions and excuses not facts. To be honest I am not sure how anyone could say Shaka is a great coach based on what we have seen since he has been at Texas. I think he deserves another year but I could also see Texas letting him go. I'd like to see him get another year but saying he is a great coach based on what he has done the last three years is foolish.
There's no chance that Texas is letting him go after this season for a million reasons, none of which are "optics" or political reasons IMO. CDC's fresh arrival, KD's unwavering and very important support for Shaka, Andrew Jones' unfortunate situation, etc. He'll be back. I hope to hell I'm eating crow for what has been a disastrous start to his Texas career, but not sure how next year can be better than this one unless Coleman takes a massive leap next year.
 
"he simply hasn't been a success at Texas."

That's all that matters. Not what he did 5, 6, 7 years ago. You should write your article at the end of the season where we finish at or near the bottom of the B12 standings and fail to make the tournament. We would be thrilled to hear what a great coach we have.
 
I actually like Shaka, the man, also.
And that means something. I'm afraid the more battered we are as fans, though, the less compelling that becomes.
No doubt. Truer words have never been written.
 
Then be consistent. Call Charlie strong a damn good coach after his 3rd year. The parallels couldn’t be any more similar. Both had one good year before they got to Texas. Both made a post season appearance their first
Season at Texas. Both had miserable 2nd and 3rd seasons. Both were basically .500 coaches at Texas. So both are damn good coaches?
Ketch has already said the two situations are not at all comparable. Haha. The delusion is strong with this one.
 
"he simply hasn't been a success at Texas."

That's all that matters. Not what he did 5, 6, 7 years ago. You should write your article at the end of the season where we finish at or near the bottom of the B12 standings and fail to make the tournament. We would be thrilled to hear what a great coach we have.
When detailing why he's a damn good coach, his overall body of work does matter.
 
Ketch has already said the two situations are not at all comparable. Haha. The delusion is strong with this one.
You compared this season to Charlie's last. That is what is not comparable. Keep up.;)
 
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