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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (TCU is a bit of a free hit for UT)

No. They aren’t pop songs.

Your argument has way too many Whatabouts and relies on main stream popularity to prove a point.

Stephen King is more popular than Cormac McCarthy, doesn’t make him a better writer…
That kind of argument makes sense for a Madonna vs Prince argument, but this is McCartney we are talking about. No one doubts his genius. I think that popularity/relevance is part of a conversation about greatest of all time, though I understand why you don’t like it.
 
Paul McCartney was literally a Prince fanboy.

When asked about the influence of Prince on the two songs, McCartney said “I can't think of other songs he has inspired, but those two definitely. I was always a big fan. I went to see him in concert a few times and wrote to him saying how much I enjoyed his guitar playing particularly.

No one is arguing that Prince wasn’t great.
 
That kind of argument makes sense for a Madonna vs Prince argument, but this is McCartney we are talking about. No one doubts his genius. I think that popularity/relevance is part of a conversation about greatest of all time, though I understand why you don’t like it.

The reason I used that argument is that the whole basis of your argument is popularity. You’ve mentioned your kids not knowing who he is. You’ve mentioned how no one will know him in 30 years. You’ve mentioned commercial success of other artists compared to him.

Was merely pointing out zero of those arguments hold weight when discussing musical genius.
 
@Perdy

Show your kids this.

CRAIG INCIARDI (Curator at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum) I’ve seen every induction performance from ’92 to the present, so that’s like 24 shows. On a purely musical level, a technical level as far as musicianship, that performance seems like the most impressive one.

 
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What a difference two weeks can make.

In the aftermath of an ugly second-half performance in Stillwater, the Longhorns were fourth in a four-team pile of Big 12 schools trying to position themselves for two spots in the Big 12 Championship game.

In the 14 days that followed ...

* TCU has one foot and a couple of toes into the title game as the regular season No. 1.

* Oklahoma State has dropped back-to-back games and is suddenly in a bit of a hole with three Big 12 losses.

* Baylor has a pair of Big 12 road wins in Lubbock and Norman, which suddenly has the Bears swapping positions with Oklahoma State in the pecking order for the No. 2 spot in the championship game.

Most important for the Longhorns is that they returned to the field in Manhattan on Saturday night and with all of the carnage around them opening up a pathway to the Big 12 Championship game, Steve Sarkisian's troops won on the road for the first time in 13 months to take the pole position in a race between five teams that have either two or three losses in the conference standings.

With three games to go, the Longhorns will play in Arlington in the first week of December with three more wins. More important than Saturday's game against undefeated TCU is a looming match-up with the Bears at home that could emerge as a winner-take-all game for that title game slot.

Consider the schedules of the teams that remain.

* Baylor: vs. Kansas State, vs. TCU and at Texas
* Kansas State: at Baylor, at West Virginia and vs. Kansas
* Oklahoma State: vs. Iowa State, at Oklahoma and vs. West Virginia
* Kansas: at Texas Tech, vs. Texas and at Kansas State

If any of those teams can run the table, they might very well take the No. 2 spot away from the Longhorns but it's hard to imagine any of these teams in their current states being able to run the table on the remaining three games. More than likely Oklahoma State and KU have losses in them that would take them to four losses. The loser of the KSU/Baylor game next weekend will also have three losses.

No matter the outcomes of the KSU/Baylor and TCU/Texas, the Baylor game after Thanksgiving feels massive.

If Texas beats TCU, it would still need to beat Baylor (and KU) to potentially avoid losing a three-loss head-to-head tiebreaker with the Bears, even if Baylor loses one of its next two games.

While the Bears might be the enemy in a few weeks, Texas fans should probably prefer that the Bears beat Kansas State this weekend because KSU could coast to wins against West Virginia and KU in the following weeks to end the regular season with a 7-2 conference record.

A loss to Baylor might nuke KSU's season because in the event of a tie with three losses at the end of the season, the Wildcats would be at tiebreaker disadvantages with the two teams most likely to finish tied with them.

As big as this week's game against TCU feels, it's probably more important for the Longhorns to beat Baylor at the end of the season than it is to beat the Horned Frogs.

Of course, winning out takes care of everything, regardless of what happens in the other games, but make no mistake about it ... the stakes will likely be enormous when the Bears come to town with a stomach full of turkey on the 25th. As long as Baylor beats Kansas State and Texas beats KU, nothing else will likely matter.

Likely.

Isn't this fun?

No. 2 - I'm going to say it ...

Bijan Robinson has surpassed Jamaal Charles in my mind as the fourth-best running back in the history of the Texas program.

He's on the Texas running back Mount Rushmore with Ricky, Earl and Ced.

After rushing for 209 yards on Saturday night on the road at Kansas State, his seventh straight game of 100 yards or more, Robinson needs to average only 123 yards per game in the next three weeks to surpass Charles to become the school's No. 4 all-time leading rusher. Should he play in a Big 12 Championship game and/or the bowl game that the Longhorns qualified for on Saturday, he might just put some distance between himself and the ultra-dynamic, ultra-explosive Charles.

Believe me, I don't say these words lightly, but consider the following:

1. Robinson's seven straight 100-yard games this season is more than twice as good as the best stretch of football that Charles put together while he was at Texas from 2005-07 (had a three-game 100+ yard streak in 2007). Robinson also had a string of five straight 100+ yard performances in 2021.

2. Overall, Robinson has 16 100+ yard rushing performances in his career to date, which is double the number that Charles had in his career at Texas (8).

3. Robinson has five games of more than 100 yards rushing against ranked teams. As crazy as it is to believe, Charles did it only twice.

4. Robinson is probably the best receiver out of the backfield in the history of the Texas program, as he has more receptions, yards touchdowns and a higher yards per reception than Charles, who was no slouch out of the backfield as a receiving threat. While Robinson won't finish his career with more receptions than Eric Metcalf, he has already surpassed him in receiving yards, receiving touchdowns and yards per reception (13.4 vs. 11.1), despite playing one less season.

5. Robinson trails only D'Onta Foreman and Jimmy Saxton by 0.1 yards per carry for the highest yards per carry of any running back in school history (minimum 150 carries). As far as I can tell, he also has the highest yards per reception of any running back in school history that currently ranks inside the program's top 100 in receiving yards.

If he can increase his yards per carry by a mere 0.1 over the next few weeks, he could finish his career with the highest yards per carry and yards per reception of any back in school history.

This isn't rarified air. This is the rarified air of rarified air.

Apologies to Charles, who only finished his career in rarified air.

No. 3 - About Quinn...

Everyone just needs to relax.

Five-star status or not, it always made sense that Texas redshirt freshman Quinn Ewers would go through some growing pains during his first season as a starter. Sure enough, as he heads into the final three games of the season, Ewers has a fairly pedestrian 141.7 efficiency rating, which would rank fourth in the Big 12 behind Baylor's Blake Shapen (147.6) if Ewers had enough attempts to qualify (he soon will).

From my perspective, let's focus on the critical positives before we start handing out constructive criticism.

1. Against a defense that had created more interceptions (11) against opposing teams than touchdown passes (9), Ewers did not turn the ball over on Saturday night. Very quietly, that's so critically important and shouldn't be taken for granted. The thing that people were worried about the most in August wasn't an issue.

2. He played well enough to help lead his team to a road win against a ranked team with serious stakes on the line.

Don't underrate the importance of these two points as it relates to his long-term development as a player.

The constructive criticism?

1. The deep balls are a work in progress. This is actually an issue that has existed since high school, but back then people lost their minds when it was suggested that Ewers wasn't perfect. He's not. The deep ball is often one of the last pieces of the puzzle for young quarterbacks to put into place. It's an issue of timing, chemistry and mechanics all coming together, which is something that often takes more time than the fans supporting them want to give. I've always mentioned Troy Aikman as a player when discussing the deep ball because it took him a couple of years in Dallas as the No. 1 overall pick in the Draft before it became a strength in his game. Like Aikman, it's just a matter of time before it starts to come together for Ewers. How much time? That's the part that can't fully be answered.

2. It's not an issue of arm strength and arm talent because few kids from the state of Texas have ever had more, but it's a matter of harnessing that ability. From my perspective, Ewers is dynamic throwing the ball in the short, the short-intermediate and almost any throw outside of the hashmarks. On the deep-intermediate and deep areas of the passing tree, he far too often puts a little too much air under the ball. Remember that throw against Oklahoma to Ja'tavion Sanders?



Ewers can make THAT throw, which most humans walking the earth can't make, even a lot of them that play for a living on Sundays. He has the arm to throw that ball on a line 15 to 20 yards further down the field, but he doesn't do it consistently. Far too often, his mechanics cause him to float balls that require his receivers to make in-air adjustments on the ball that will lead to incompletions at this level because defensive backs are good enough to make up ground on open receivers if the ball hangs in the air too long. You can go back to his high school film and see it.

It's not a sin that he's still putting the pieces of his game together in real time as a starting quarterback at this level.

I'm not worried about Ewers. You shouldn't be either.

When it all comes together, he's going to be awesome. Until it does, he's going to be something less than that. Simple as that.

No. 4 - KELVIN MFING BANKS!!!!

In his first nine games as a college football left tackle, freshman Kelvin Banks has been forced to tangle with Alabama's Will Anderson, Texas Tech's Tyree Wilson and Kansas State's Felix Anudike-Uzoma.

All he has done is stone-wall all three of them into being mostly non-factors in more than 180 minutes of football.

It's time we stop talking about him competing for freshman all-America honors and it's time to start talking about him competing about big boy all-America honors.

He's the best offensive lineman in the Big 12 at the most stress-producing position along the line of scrimmage.

The fact that Texas will likely get another 30 games out of him before he heads off to the NFL is not just a blessing, it's a dream come true of the highest magnitude when you consider that the Longhorns haven't truly had a player like him since Justin Blalock departed in 2006.

When five stars like him truly go boom, this is what it looks like.

No. 5 - Scattershooting on the Longhorns ...

... For the first time this season, I'm really starting to wonder if Jaylan Ford will be playing in the NFL next season. A solid player early in the season, Ford has turned into the best playmaking linebacker in the Big 12. No Big 12 linebacker has more interceptions, forced fumbles and fumble recoveries. He's among the leaders at his position in tackles for loss. He might come back for a senior season, but he'll certainly have something to think about and I'm not sure how much higher of a level he would reach as a college player, which is a true nod to just how good he's been this season.

... TCU averages 43 points per game. Texas averages 36. It feels like it might take 40 on Saturday.

... TCU is first in offensive passing efficiency and Texas is sixth in defensive passing efficiency. That might very well be the battle that decides the game.

... Texas is first in the Big 12 in kickoffs. Who would have thought this would be the case through nine games?

... Barryn Sorrell leads the Longhorns with four sacks this season, but it feels like he could have 10 if he closed the deal at the point of reaching the quarterback a little better. That'll come, probably next year.

... After not catching a touchdown in the first three games of the season, Xavier Worthy leads the Big 12 with 9, which is three more than the next closest receiver. He might not hit 1,000 yards this season, but he seems to be a sure thing for double-digit touchdown receptions for the second year in a row.

... As good as Deuce Vaughn is, he can't hold a candle to the season TCU's Kendre Miller is having. If you don't know the name by now, you probably will in a few days.

... The Texas volleyball team gets a chance for revenge on Wednesday night when it plays Iowa State at Gregory. I expect an emphatic response after dropping its only match of the season two weeks ago.

No. 6 – BUY or SELL …

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(Sell) The Longhorns absolutely could run the table. The two toughest games left on the schedule are home games, which Texas seems to specialize in.



(Sell) He might have too much ground to make up. He's still outside the top 10 with the oddsmakers.



(Buy) That's likely not going to happen again. The passing game as a whole left a lot to be desired.



(Sell) I think it's a bunch of small things that all add up to the struggles. I'm not a believer that these issues come down to one prevalent theme.



(Sell) It might happen, but the bottom line is that recruits don't live on week to week emotions like fans do, at least the majority of them don't.



(Sell) See above. I think it might mean more for the 2024 class than the 2023 class.



(Buy) That hurts, but it's not completely off-base.


(Sell) He's getting his money, you better believe that.



(Sell) There's still a part of me that thinks D'Shawn Jamison is the answer to this question. He rarely gets tested ... and that's for good reasons. Ford is the biggest playmaker on the unit, though.



(Sell) It's a little soon to say such a thing definitively. .



(Buy) A&M still has those two convinced that its NIL pathways are more profitable and easier to cash in with. We'll see if that changes. Their ears are open.



(Sell) TCU isn't going to be held to 20 points. The rest of that stuff might happen, though.



(Buy) In general, Kyle Flood likes bigger humans at guard, which could lead these two to a battle for the center spot.



(Push) I think it all comes down to the final three games.



(Sell) It's a good question, but my confidence in this team's ability to win games is growing, especially with two out of three at home.

No. 7 - Congrats, Astros fans ...

The better team won. As disappointing as it is to lose a World Series as a Phillies fan, the reality of how good the Astros are compared to everyone else in the sport was always evident.

Better pitching. Better hitting. Better performance in the clutch.

It feels like the Astros were just better than the Phillies in every key area over the six-game series.

The Astros are a historically great team. Enjoy it and stop worrying about what other people say.

It's beneath a team with two titles and four World Series appearances during this run they are on.

No. 8 - Scattershooting on anything and everything ...

... If I had a vote that mattered ...

1. Georgia
2 Michigan
3. Ohio State
4. TCU
5. Tennessee
6. USC
7. Oregon
8. LSU
9. UCLA
10. Ole Miss

... Heisman Ballot: 1. RB Bijan Robinson (Texas), 2. QB Caleb Williams (USC), 3. QB CJ Stroud (Ohio State), 4. RB Blake Corum (Michigan) and 5. QB Hendon Hooker (Tennessee)

... Brian Kelly is showing what you get when you hire a head coach with a guarantee on the box. He might not be a natural fit at LSU, but that dude can coach.

... I'm really starting to believe that we're watching Nick Saban's last year. Does he really want to break in a new quarterback? Does he really want to coach in the NIL world?

... If Georgia played Oregon this weekend, would things really be much different than the first match-up early in the season?

... I can't wait for USC/UCLA in two weeks.

... When will Drake Maye play someone worth a damn?

... Kansas is bowl eligible. Give Kansas head coach Lance Leipold all the coaching awards.

... Sam Ehlinger was sacked nine times on Sunday and finished with a 45.6 rating against the Patriots. Woof.

... All Cameron Dicker does is kick game-winning field goals.

... I can't believe the Bills lost to the Jets. I can't believe Zach Wilson beat Josh Allen.

... Tyreek Hill is a Hall of Fame talent building up his resume. He's the modern-day Bob Hayes.

... Aaron Rodgers was far from the best player on the field on Sunday ... against the Lions.

... Jeremy Pena is some kind of player.

... My man has built hospitals, schools, neighborhoods and given untold amounts of money to families all over his country... and they did him like this.


... The LAFC/Philadelphia game was the best MLS game I've ever seen. I watched more of it than Georgia/Tennessee.

... Gareth Bale hadn't done much all season and hadn't played in a month, but he came on in extra time and did this. He's a man made for the big moment.


No. 9 - The List: Top 10 Musical Talents of the Last 100 Years ...

It's not about simply playing an instrument. It's not about being a singer. Or a performer. It's about the whole package.

I'm sure there won't be any disagreements.

10. Quincy Jones
9. Jimi Hendrix
8. Trent Reznor
7. Brian Wilson
6. Chuck Berry
5. Miles Davis
4. Ray Charles
3. Michael Jackson
2. Paul McCartney
1. Prince

No. 10 - And Finally ...

In the event you've got a few minutes to kill, take a look at UT Hoops' news five-star commitment looks like on the floor.

He's velvety smooth.

The new basketball recruit is so fast with that first move to the basket and he makes his 3 point shooting look effortless.
 
I’ll take Chris Gilbert, 3 consecutive 1000 yard seasons back when you played 10 games. AND there were regularly 2 or more backs in the backfield to siphon off carries
You beat me to it, Chris Gilbert is definitely on my Running Back Mount Rushmore!! 3231 yards in 29 games back when freshmen couldn't play. Over 1,000 all three years, ran in the wishbone in 1968, with 4 running options.
 
You mentioned UT vs a&m NIL deal differences. Generally speaking are NIL deals hush hush amongst the participants? Would it be possible to lay out say an 80% overview of the UT deals, and maybe compare with our recruiting competition?

We get a few bits like the OL thing and Bijan’s stuff but wondering if it could be more complete. I realize it’s probably a big ask.
 
The reason I used that argument is that the whole basis of your argument is popularity. You’ve mentioned your kids not knowing who he is. You’ve mentioned how no one will know him in 30 years. You’ve mentioned commercial success of other artists compared to him.

Was merely pointing out zero of those arguments hold weight when discussing musical genius.
Sure they do. In a discussion like this you’ve got to consider things like record sales, relevance, opinion of experts, and enduring popularity or it’s just one guy giving you his opinion and the other guy saying that you are wrong. I get that it’s possible for the public to miss on genius artists, but we are talking about the greatest in the last 100 years. If the public can’t recognize that kind of genius maybe it’s your taste that’s suspect and not the public’s. Some critic might say that James Joyce is the best writer in that last 100 years, but the fact that nobody reads him tells us that he isn’t. (I’m not suggesting that nobody listened to Prince. Just using Joyce as an example of “genius” that is maybe isn’t as much genius as fan boys think)
 
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You mentioned UT vs a&m NIL deal differences. Generally speaking are NIL deals hush hush amongst the participants? Would it be possible to lay out say an 80% overview of the UT deals, and maybe compare with our recruiting competition?

We get a few bits like the OL thing and Bijan’s stuff but wondering if it could be more complete. I realize it’s probably a big ask.
Stay tuned for Thursday.

A huge initiative is being announced.
 
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These speculations about Texas’ fate are interesting but I am of the opinion that we should not be participating unless we win out. I believe Texas will have its hands very full in all the remaining games and winning any of them will be difficult. This team is capable but has not demonstrated that they can win that many in a row. So far it is apparent that TCU has a superior team. Their quarterback is much more experienced and they have game breakers at all the skill positions it seems. Duggan has given us a ton of trouble in the past with both his arm and his legs. For gosh sake Adrian Martinez lit us up with his passing and the TCU participants are significantly more skilled, especially if Quentin Johnson plays. Our defensive backs are bad in coverage and bad in tackling too.
 
Crappy list at best when you say "all-time". Sheesh. Leaving Elvis off automatically invalidates this list.
He wasn't the musical talent of these listed, even if he was a genius.

He wasn't the song-writer, musician and vocal talent warranting of a top 10 spot IMO.

For instance, you can't really compare him to McCartney.
 
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Show your kids this.

CRAIG INCIARDI (Curator at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum) I’ve seen every induction performance from ’92 to the present, so that’s like 24 shows. On a purely musical level, a technical level as far as musicianship, that performance seems like the most impressive one.

33rd best guitarist ever according to Rolling Stone in 2015.
 
One of the articles I read this weekend started out saying how Texas played a solid first half and then let it get "exciting" in the second half. That was the understatement of the year. With the number of blown double-digit leads we've experienced recently, I had to turn off all media when it got to 31-24, thinking I was the jinx. However, even safely watching the game after knowing we "held on" for the win was still a stressful, maddening task. I deleted the game as soon as it was over, because I didn't think a re-watch would be good for my blood pressure. Maybe this ugly hang-on win on the road was the flailing and scratching exorcism of the monkeys on our backs. Monkey #1 being winning on the road; and Monkey #2 being having no lead big enough to blow in the second half. It feels good to have the win, but I still have that sick, shell-shocked feeling in my stomach with flashbacks of their receivers being inexplicably wide open at the most crucial 3rd downs to keep drives alive. That just seems to be a common themes through a lot of our games, and I'm not sure how long it will take me to shake that shell-shock feeling.

Over the weekend, I was all ready to get on here and gripe about how Sark gets one-dimensional running into a 9-man box during the second half which stalls the offense. However, I read some informal breakdowns of plays in the second half and it seemed from that person's breakdown that the passing game, was not, in fact, abandoned. As @ketch notes, it's more likely a combination of a bunch of things. I'd like someone who likes diving deep down into data analysis on play calls against how the defenses had made adjustments in the second half. Like, did we make further adjustments to their 2nd half adjustments? I don't know, but it's taking days/weeks off of my life watching the second half of most of these games.
 
33rd best guitarist ever according to Rolling Stone in 2015.
All-time great guitarist

All-time great song writer

All-time great performer

What kind of father shelters his children from this? ;)
 
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33rd best guitarist ever according to Rolling Stone in 2015.
People who don't know guitar have long overrated Prince's ability but at this point it is what it is. A friend of mine is a touring professional classical guitarist. I played him the the Prince clip in the "Tribute to George" because I thought it was all time great. He said is was really good but in no way considered him a truly great guitarist.

And shut up about Rolling Stone's opinions, man. They only matter when they agree with mine.
 
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@Perdy did you think being ranked 33rd on that list was a disqualifier?

It ranks him above the likes of The Edge, Joe Walsh, John Lee Hooker, Curtis mayfield, Muddy Waters, Slash, Jack White, T-Bone walker and Robert Johnson.

He played 26 other instruments.

He was a historically prolific songwriter.

He was as good of a performer on stage as anyone in history.

I feel like I'm holding your hand through this conversation.
 
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What I saw in the second half is a team that struggles to make plays on defense. As a result, our offense is short-changed on possessions especially in the second half. Our defense is what it is. We have zero playmakers in the defensive back field it seems, a pass rush that struggles to finish even when they get pressure on the quarterback, and a team that is vulnerable to big plays against the rush and the pass. TCU has big play ability in both areas. Our defensive line is an asset against the run but it will be interesting how well they do slowing down TCU’s quick hitting running game.
 
People who don't know guitar have long overrated Prince's ability but at this point it is what it is. A friend of mine is a touring professional classical guitarist. I played him the the Prince clip in the "Tribute to George" because I thought it was all time great. He said is was really good but in no way considered him a truly great guitarist.

And shut up about Rolling Stone's opinions, man. They only matter when they agree with mine.

These were the people that ranked him 33rd.

Trey Anastasio, Dan Auerbach (The Black Keys), Brian Bell (Weezer), Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple), Carl Broemel (My Morning Jacket), James Burton, Jerry Cantrell (Alice in Chains), Gary Clark Jr., Billy Corgan, Steve Cropper, Dave Davies (The Kinks), Anthony DeCurtis (Contributing editor, Rolling Stone), Tom DeLonge (Blink-182), Rick Derringer, Luther Dickinson (North Mississippi Allstars), Elliot Easton (The Cars), Melissa Etheridge, Don Felder (The Eagles), David Fricke (Senior writer, Rolling Stone), Peter Guralnick (Author), Kirk Hammett (Metallica), Albert Hammond Jr. (The Strokes), Warren Haynes (The Allman Brothers Band), Brian Hiatt (Senior writer, Rolling Stone), David Hidalgo (Los Lobos), Jim James (My Morning Jacket), Lenny Kravitz, Robby Krieger (The Doors), Jon Landau (Manager), Alex Lifeson (Rush), Nils Lofgren (The E Street Band), Mick Mars (Mötley Crüe), Doug Martsch (Built to Spill), J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.), Brian May, Mike McCready (Pearl Jam), Roger McGuinn (The Byrds), Scotty Moore, Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth), Tom Morello, Dave Mustaine (Megadeth), Brendan O’Brien (Producer), Joe Perry, Vernon Reid (Living Colour), Robbie Robertson, Rich Robinson (The Black Crowes), Carlos Santana, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Marnie Stern, Stephen Stills, Andy Summers, Mick Taylor, Susan Tedeschi, Vieux Farka Touré, Derek Trucks, Eddie Van Halen, Joe Walsh, Nancy Wilson (Heart)

But, yeah, you talked to someone once... ;)
 
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No. 9 - The List: Top 10 Musical Talents of the Last 100 Years ...

It's not about simply playing an instrument. It's not about being a singer. Or a performer. It's about the whole package.
You're missing a Beatle. That is simply a factual statement.

Jim Morrison should also be on that list.

I also think Austin's own Stevie Ray Vaughan is worth strong consideration.
No Elvis or Freddie Mercury @Ketchum?
How Elvis is off this list, I can't understand either.

You talk about "complete package", but leave off Elvis? He was a pioneer in so many ways. You need to go back and re-watch the movie. That early scene where the girls couldn't help but scream when he started singing/dancing should tell you all you need to know. That scene wasn't contrived or made up. That really happened, at a time when no-one really understood what was happening.

Without Elvis, there is no Prince.
 
You're missing a Beatle. That is simply a factual statement.

Jim Morrison should also be on that list.

I also think Austin's own Stevie Ray Vaughan is worth strong consideration.

How Elvis is off this list, I can't understand either.

You talk about "complete package", but leave off Elvis? He was a pioneer in so many ways. You need to go back and re-watch the movie. That early scene where the girls couldn't help but scream when he started singing/dancing should tell you all you need to know. That scene wasn't contrived or made up. That really happened, at a time when no-one really understood what was happening.

Without Elvis, there is no Prince.

a. There could be hundreds of people on this list.

Certainly a few you mention.

b. I simply don't think Elvis had the chops as a songwriter, musician and singer to make the list.

An all-time great performer and influencer of music, though.
 
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A bit of a different angle regarding the aggy collapse and us (or other teams) taking portals and commitments from them...

Do you see their lack of performance on the field impacting how the NFL looks at their players? Will they have less guys drafted?? If that is the case, would High School players then be turned off?

That might be more of a @Alex Dunlap question though.

What is a little unearning about that, is that it might take a year or two to play out.
 
You literally picked some small detail and nitpicked while ignoring everything else.

You could do that to almost anyone,
I only did it because I felt like it minimized the case for Grohl. Just trying to help you, Ketch.
 
@Ketchum
A bit of a different angle regarding the aggy collapse and us (or other teams) taking portals and commitments from them...

Do you see their lack of performance on the field impacting how the NFL looks at their players? Will they have less guys drafted?? If that is the case, would High School players then be turned off?

That might be more of a @Alex Dunlap question though.

What is a little unearning about that, is that it might take a year or two to play out.
I doubt it impacts the way NFL teams look at their players.
 
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a. There could be hundreds of people on this list.

Certainly a few you mention.

b. I simply don't think Elvis had the chops as a songwriter, musician and singer to make the list.

An all-time great performer and influencer of music, though.
As a singer?!?

Come on...he had an all-time great voice.

Perhaps he wasn't writing all of his songs, or composing them, and I'll give you that...but to say he didn't have the chops as a singer!!?!

Edit: You're absolutely right that 100's could be on this list. Ultimately, everyone will have their own top10. Nothing wrong with that. It is actually pretty cool to see people's top 10. It says something about what they think of music, and the type of music that influenced them. I don't mean this to say you have bad thoughts of music or bad influences. Just different that mine, and different from how I view things.
 
As a singer?!?

Come on...he had an all-time great voice.

Perhaps he wasn't writing all of his songs, or composing them, and I'll give you that...but to say he didn't have the chops as a singer!!?!

He wasn't such a great singer that it vaults him into the top 10.

There's no Whitney Houston on the list, either.
 
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