Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (The latest on Micah Hudson isn't great...)
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I love Tony Dorsett. I'm not mad at anyone that believes he should be ahead of some of the players on the list.
Same with Dickerson to a degree.
As I said his NFL career did not play out as well as it could have with the injury and the weed suspensions and long camping trip but you do know he is Texas’ all time leading NFL rusher right? Even while missing multiple season in his prime.
I agree. I think Emmit was great. I don't have a problem him being #1 on Ketchs list. I have more of a problem with Ketch saying without a doubt he is better than Sanders. I would have zero issues with someone putting Sanders at #1.
Yes. I understand your point about surrounding talent. Still, if you put Randy Moss on the Niners …….
And Ketch we all appreciate the time you, and the rest of the team, put into the articles and podcast particularly the article each Sunday as we all understand the time that takes away from your family. Thanks again...
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The mental gymnastics you guys do in order to justify your agenda is funny. You have to create a fictitious reality to get Sanders close to Emmitt, but for Emmitt it’s just reality. One guy actually did the damn thing and the other….you’re inventing magical scenarios. It’s crazy talk.
It's wild to see every single person I've challenged to explain Jerry's Rice's case for being the best receiver of all-time fail to do so.
I’d say it’s the amount of separation from his contemporaries. The eye ball test tells me that Moss is in the same zip code. I can’t believe you are going to the mat that Emmitt is better than Walter Payton or Sanders or Brown.
1. Running backs generally get the ball on less than half of the offensive snaps. What they do when they don't get the ball counts. Emmitt was one of the best pass blocking RBs in the history of the game. Sanders was known to be pretty uninterested in that aspect of the game.
2. Sanders clearly has the better highlight reel, but what about his lowlight reel? I would bet that the worst 30% of his carries look significantly worse than Smith's worst 30%.
3. With Detroit losing so much, Sanders had more carries against prevent-type defenses, while also being in a run&shoot offense that spread the defense out. While this wasn't a great formula for winning, it was a great formula for racking up plenty of cheap, non-impactful yards.
4. The fact that Detroit used to take Sanders out at the goal line because of his penchant for negative plays is pretty damning.
5. The only 2 Dallas O linemen anybody would've heard of without Emmitt being there were Eric Williams and Larry Allen. The others were journeymen without him. Period.
6. Take Emmitt off those Cowboys teams and they wouldn't have won jack shit.
2. Sanders clearly has the better highlight reel, but what about his lowlight reel? I would bet that the worst 30% of his carries look significantly worse than Smith's worst 30%.
3. With Detroit losing so much, Sanders had more carries against prevent-type defenses, while also being in a run&shoot offense that spread the defense out. While this wasn't a great formula for winning, it was a great formula for racking up plenty of cheap, non-impactful yards.
4. The fact that Detroit used to take Sanders out at the goal line because of his penchant for negative plays is pretty damning.
5. The only 2 Dallas O linemen anybody would've heard of without Emmitt being there were Eric Williams and Larry Allen. The others were journeymen without him. Period.
6. Take Emmitt off those Cowboys teams and they wouldn't have won jack shit.
If it were in the court of law, the case for Sanders would be thrown out with too much circumstantial evidence.
Hall of Fame QB and wide receiver. All Pros stacked on both sides ….., bad take. Really bad take.
They wouldn't have won one Super Bowl without Emmitt. He was the engine.
This is where I land. So many "ifs" have to be inserted.
History is littered with guys whose careers were shortened by injury , but for me you can't assume they'd produce had they not been injured.
Of course I’m aware. I’m also aware that in no way means he had a better career than Earl, Priest and even J-Charles
None of us care about your question and don’t feel the need to answer your question to try and justify it for you.
But I’ll bite - What does Jerry Rice have to do with Emmitt vs. Barry?
I’ve never heard any serious talk of Randy Moss over Jerry Rice. Tom Brady and Jerry Rice are pretty much easily the two most slam dunk GOATS position wise when such discussions occur.
Rice played in 85 more games than Moss. If you take Moss’ rec/game (4.5) and multiply it by 85 that adds 382 catches which would give him 5962 more yards and 61 more TDs based on his historical averages per catch.
He would still have 184 catches less than Rice (Moss averaged 0.6 receptions/game less than Rice) but he’d have 19 more TDs and trail Rice by 1641 yards. If he gets the same number of receptions as Rice he passes him on yards rather easily
He would still have 184 catches less than Rice (Moss averaged 0.6 receptions/game less than Rice) but he’d have 19 more TDs and trail Rice by 1641 yards. If he gets the same number of receptions as Rice he passes him on yards rather easily
Exactly. If if and ands were pots and pans the world would be a kitchen. You don’t just get to assume, when there’s a dude that actually did that shit.
People romanticize a lovable loser, while hating the guy that’s actually standing atop the podium. It’s the American way. Credit and make excuses for people seem as victims that never did it, while tearing down people that actually did it by discrediting them. People tried to discredit Brady for years but he finally made it so absurd that you just can’t say shit anymore.
I watched them play. I saw the gaping holes he ran through. Saw the holes that Daryl Johnston cleaned out. Without great blocking no back can be great. Agree that Emmitt was great by any standard. Ricky would be in the HOF if he had run behind the Dallas line.
Listening to Ketch - I'm laughing at his points / they sound worse as he explains them in real time
Mentions First team all Pro as if they were the same when Barry made it 6x and Smith made it 4x
Mentions First team all Pro as if they were the same when Barry made it 6x and Smith made it 4x
