Ketch's 10 Thoughts From The Weekend (The latest on Micah Hudson isn't great...)
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Of course it's an opinion, but it is one based on having watched how hard Ricky played and ran on the terrible teams he played on where he got little blocking. He still rushed for over 10,000 yards, more than Earl gained in the NFL.
Don't get me wrong. Earl had by far the better pro career. My point is that Ricky was held back by playing on truly awful teams.
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So the Buffalo Bills magically score 40 more points if the cowboys don’t have Emmitt ?? Cmon. Cowboys were a dynasty.
You don't think running the ball and controlling the time of possession affects the other team's offense? C'mon. Get back to me when you understand football.
Jerry Rice is the GOAT at his position for three reasons.
a. he has the greatest numbers.
b. he won the most championships.
c. He performed at his absolute best when the stakes were the highest.
Who does that sound like?
Also, before the Super Bowl you're talking about, the Cowboys would've lost to SF in the NFC championship without Emmitt. He had 173 yards from scrimmage and 2 TDs in a 30-20 victory. So, no, the Cowboys wouldn't have won a Super Bowl without Emmitt. Facts matter.
Moss wasn't able to sustain his greatness. That's part of the deal.
When Jerry Rice was 33, he caught 122 passes for 1,848 yards and 15 touchdowns.
When Randy Moss was 33, he caught 28 passes for 393 yards and 5 touchdowns.
It's not Jerry's fault that Randy burned out earlier.
This is without getting into the championships that Jerry won.
In the biggest game of Randy Moss' life, he caught 5 passes for 62 yards... and his team lost by 3.
Jerry Rice never let that happen.
Wut. You mean the team that won 3 Super Bowls and beat the Niners - another dynasty. You have got to be kidding. I hated the Cowboys. They kicked ass and took names. The depth on both sides was crazy. Jimmy Johnson accumulated soooo much talent. You must have some Emmitt Smith trading cards and you are trying to inflate their value.
* Has the best career numbers
* Won the most titles
* Played at his absolute best in the biggest moments of his life.
The case for Jerry is the same exact case for Emmitt.
A. is a factor in the analysis for greatest of all time (or for a specific position) but not the only factor.
B. is not a factor. We're talking about the greatest player. Not the greatest player on the best team. Whether a player is drafted by a well-run, intelligent organization as opposed to a group of morons should have no bearing on how good or great a player is or is not. Sorry.
C. is a factor in the analysis for greatest of all time (or for a specific position) but not the only factor.
This is what you forgot and cannot be left out of the equation.
D. What do their opponents who played against them say? This, IMO, is one of the most important factors. And the players say Barry.
On a terrible field, he dominated one of the best teams in the history of the league.
On their field.
When they knew he was the guy they HAD to stop.
No one said Emmitt was a scrub. Again. How many teams featured a hall of fame QB and Wide receiver??? Dallas defense was awesome. Any of the top ten running backs listed would have absolutely killed in that offense.
lol
Literally every sport determines its best players by who wins the most at the absolute highest levels.
except they did.
Emmitt did.
I can Charles Barkley would have won 2-5 rings if he played on the Pistons instead of the Sixers during the Bad Boys years, but that didn't happen.
It matters that he never won a ring. It matters that Karl Malone never won a ring.
It matters that Hakeem did.
(Sell) Texas had already played for a Big 12 title in 2001, won 11 games in the previous two season and had finished in the top 10 in two of the previous three seasons (top 12 in the four previous seasons). I don't know if you remember the off-season in 2003, but things were a lot more angst-fueled back then as Greg Davis being in charge of the offense going into 2004 made the upcoming season feel quite different. I remember doing a speaking engagement with the UT-exes group in Nashville. The very first question came from a gentleman that asked if Davis was going to be the OC in the future. When I told him that Davis was safe, he literally got up and walked out of the event. So, no, 2004 and 2023 don't quite feel the same to me.
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This wasn't the same guy who got up in your face in Dallas one time that was on a mission to stalk you was it?
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This wasn't the same guy who got up in your face in Dallas one time that was on a mission to stalk you was it?
Health was an issue for Randy and ya he also spent majority of his career with Dante Culpepper. The notion that Jerry is the greatest and it ain’t close is ridiculous when one normalizes the statistics on a per catch or per game basis. Moss spent his prime years in Minnesota and Oakland…good grief
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Players that rank behind Culpepper in all-time passer rating:
Dan Marino
Brett Favre
Donovan McNabb
Sayers played at the wrong time. I wonder how much modern knee surgery technology would have added to his career?
But then, maybe he wouldn't have been the same Gale Sayers.
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