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Ketch's 10 Thoughts From the Weekend (The most important position coach in 2017 is...)

You really expect someone that loves her would be objective?
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I just explained it to you. It's not rocket science.

Context of comment = injuries at RT and RB, an unsettled offensive line, serious talent issues at tight end and a young quarterback faced to deal with all of that on the fly
Those question marks are all public knowledge. I'm saying it's not a very insightful nugget from your source to say it's time to be worried. Maybe if he said something like "they can't run off the right side of the line", "Buechele is struggling," etc etc.
 
a. The NFL's rep is what it is.
b. You are suggesting that there are either certainly wrong in goonish fashion or are doing this to stick it to the Cowboys?
Goonish fashion? No, there was an agenda in this case and it goes deeper than the Cowboys and HOF Owner JJ. Owners make majority decisions about issues and Uncle Rog is basically the puppet of that. He essentially had no choice in the suspension he handed down. In the end Zeke will still be suspended but not for 6 games and Roger will have satisfied the person/s pulling the strings. Pretty much the same reason Kaepernick is drawing unemployment which is tied together in this case. Ironically, the facts are always there in the public eye you just have to know how to connect those dots.
 
How many years has our O-line been a major problem? And yet recruiting is what it is right now. Do we have a right to be concerned?
 
Those question marks are all public knowledge. I'm saying it's not a very insightful nugget from your source to say it's time to be worried. Maybe if he said something like "they can't run off the right side of the line", "Buechele is struggling," etc etc.
I'm sorry that section didn't give you everything you hoped it would.
 
Goonish fashion? No, there was an agenda in this case and it goes deeper than the Cowboys and HOF Owner JJ. Owners make majority decisions about issues and Uncle Rog is basically the puppet of that. He essentially had no choice in the suspension he handed down. In the end Zeke will still be suspended but not for 6 games and Roger will have satisfied the person/s pulling the strings. Pretty much the same reason Kaepernick is drawing unemployment which is tied together in this case. Ironically, the facts are always there in the public eye you just have to know how to connect those dots.
So, this is part of a stick-it-to-Jerry conspiracy?
 
Complete flip flopfrom the "go ahead and drink the kool aid column."
This team is loaded with 4 stars at every position group and now as elite coaching. It will win 10 oe 11 regular season games. Oline will be extremely good, RBs will be great. Shane will be great.
 
You think D Young is better than Warren? NO WAY in hell any RB starts over him if he is healthy. You are right tho, if Warren is injured and a couple other RBs Young takes that bull by the Horns.
I would offer that's beyond severe bruising.

Are we really going to see bruises all over a woman's body and engage in an discussion on whether the bruising was or wasn't severe.

Excuse me, but I'm going to pass on this particular conversation. It is beyond insulting.

Have a good night. Let's agree to move on.
Agreed. That is more like catastrophic bruising.

Great write up, Ketch. You nailed the Zeke situation. What a shame that so many young men are predisposed to violence against women. We are failing as a society in that regard.
 
Goonish fashion? No, there was an agenda in this case and it goes deeper than the Cowboys and HOF Owner JJ. Owners make majority decisions about issues and Uncle Rog is basically the puppet of that. He essentially had no choice in the suspension he handed down. In the end Zeke will still be suspended but not for 6 games and Roger will have satisfied the person/s pulling the strings. Pretty much the same reason Kaepernick is drawing unemployment which is tied together in this case. Ironically, the facts are always there in the public eye you just have to know how to connect those dots.

Everything the NFL does is agenda driven especially fines, suspensions and punishments. If the NFL can get away with something they will but if an issue comes to light that the NFL has been dragging it's feet on then they tend to go overboard on a punishment whether guilty or not to show they are addressing it. Hiding concussion issues- heavy punishment on the Saints and Sean Payton for Bountygate. Going easy on Spygate- go after Tom Brady for Deflate gate. Going easy on Ray Rice and Giants punter- heavy punishment on one of the stars of the most popular team in the league.

I have no idea whether or not Zeke is guilty of assaulting this woman but it seems the NFL predetermined the outcome because it's own issues of looking the other way on previous cases.
 
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* LIttlefinger's plan has been hatched. You could see that coming a mile away.

* Jon really has assembled one hell of a dream team to go on the other side of the wall with to pick a fight.

* Those previews for next week's episode.... holy hell!





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@gkketch

Do you think that was Benjen Stark riding next to the Night king in previews for next week. That could pay dividends if true.

Too good to be true, prob.
 
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Complete flip flopfrom the "go ahead and drink the kool aid column."
This team is loaded with 4 stars at every position group and now as elite coaching. It will win 10 oe 11 regular season games. Oline will be extremely good, RBs will be great. Shane will be great.
That's an interesting prism through which to see the article and the team. Thanks for reading.
 
Ketch. I have a bruise on my arm. Until you provide to me credible evidence that you didn't abuse me and positively provide proof of how I got them, I think it makes logical sense to assume that you did it. After all, if you can't explain how someone else got bruises that you claim that you had no part in giving to them, clearly you're guilty.
 
I have no idea whether or not Zeke is guilty of assaulting this woman but it seems the NFL predetermined the outcome because it's own issues of looking the other way on previous cases.
No question that the NFL has earned its horrible rep, but in order to believe this, you have to completely ignore all of the context it has provided, which includes Elliott's team of lawyers having nothing more than unproven theories as it relates to what happened.

Elliott has never taken a firm stance on this issue with the media. There's been no press conference with a strong position. He's answered for none of this, so you'll forgive me for giving him a pass in the name of the NFL being horrible.
 
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* LIttlefinger's plan has been hatched. You could see that coming a mile away.

* Jon really has assembled one hell of a dream team to go on the other side of the wall with to pick a fight.

* Those previews for next week's episode.... holy hell!





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@gkketch

Do you think that was Benjen Stark riding next to the Night Thing in previews for next week. That could pay dividends if true.

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I didn't even notice that.
 
Ketch. I have a bruise on my arm. Until you provide to me credible evidence that you didn't abuse me and positively provide proof of how I got them, I think it makes logical sense to assume that you did it. After all, if you can't explain how someone else got bruises that you claim that you had no part in giving to them, clearly you're guilty.
Well, you have my vote for worst post of the week and it only just turned midnight on Monday.
 
I view the Elliott case as a last chance type of deal. She clearly has some bruises that didn't just appear by themselves. He hasn't gone to the degree others have but that's the next stop on the tour. Followed by jail if this happens in Texas. Hes not exactly showing any form of reasonable defense or contrition. So my expectation is: he will appeal, get it down to 2-4 games, get sued in civil court and settle, lose all of whatever endorsement future he had and then one day f-it up even worse because he's a handsy kind of guy.

I remember thinking that the girl was being vindictive when the first thing around draft day came up. But it looks more to be a pattern of behavior. Past is prologue.

I wish and hope it's not true because he seems to be an infectious, enthusiastic type of guy. But men who beat women don't deserve to keep playing a game for millions of dollars.


NFL reviewed a bunch of text messages. I guarantee you he admits to hitting her or grabbing her where the bruises are and that's all they need to substantiate it. After that, it's six games minimum according to CBA. Whoever chimes in, "no he was suspended under personal conduct policy and therefore it can be however many games he decides." Read this link below. This falls under personal conduct policy and commissioner has absolute authority.

The reason the kicker who admitted to beating his wife 20 times only got 1 game is because that happened before this new policy was in place and they said it would not be retroactive.

So the only question was did he commit abuse in the NFL's opinion? Not beyond a reasonable doubt but more likely than not. They read a couple of text messages where he doesn't deny it or even admits it and they see any photos taken before bar fight occurred (so now that excuse doesn't work) then boom 6 games. I am not saying they had this evidence but no one is releasing the evidence the NFL had. Zeke's people released anything helpful to him but NFL didn't release anything they had. I have no idea what NFL had so it's either a great decision or a shitty one. Who knows? I know this, none of us do. So quit fixating in 6 games and no criminal prosecution. 6 games was minimum and criminal burden of proof does not matter in this case. Should NFL let all players who beat the wrap back into NFL? My two cents.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...c-violence-with-6-game-ban-for-first-offense/
 
Just that we're clear about the bruising.

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But, yeah, let's be dismissive about the bruising...
 
Anyone that has been a Sixers fan for the last 34 years isn't a bandwagon fan.
Definition of a Bandwagon Fan: a fan who chooses to target teams in different locations generally with a history of winning big at some time or another, i.e., a Sixers fan, a Cowboys fan. Over a 1000 miles a part. At one time, won big. Wonder what third city owns his favorite baseball team?
 
Well, you have my vote for worst post of the week and it only just turned midnight on Monday.

Are you comfortable with a system of discipline in which the burden of proof rests with the person being accused of a crime such that you have to offer credible "theories" to validate how someone else incurred an injury, rather than the accuser having to offer credible proof that you actually committed a crime?

I'm trying to understand the basis for your seemingly rock solid assurance of guilt. Have you seen something compelling or are you simply trusting that some evidence must exist because the NFL issued a bunch of quotes saying that they're convinced that they made the right decision?

So far I've seen pictures of bruises and some quotes from the NFL. I would think that if there is compelling evidence that Zeke gave this woman the bruises, we should have heard about this evidence by now, and it likely would have formed the basis for a criminal charge against him.

Again, other than trusting that the NFL must be correct because of the conviction present in their quotes from a press release, what makes you so certain that your position is correct?
 
I think Ketch wishes Zeke "Dickon" Elliot had been burned alive with Dickon Tarly.
I wish he was a football player not being labeled a woman-abuser by the league he works in.

I'd love it if these issues didn't exist. They do.
 
Definition of a Bandwagon Fan: a fan who chooses to target teams in different locations generally with a history of winning big at some time or another, i.e., a Sixers fan, a Cowboys fan. Over a 1000 miles a part. At one time, won big. Wonder what third city owns his favorite baseball team?
Philadelphia. Pretty widely known...
 
Are you comfortable with a system of discipline in which the burden of proof rests with the person being accused of a crime such that you have to offer credible "theories" to validate how someone else incurred an injury, rather than the accuser having to offer credible proof that you actually committed a crime?
According to the league, it spoke with scores of witnesses, investigators (who believe abuse occurred) and witnessed electronic messaging that proved in their minds abuse occurred.

Elliott provided nothing tangible in proving his claims were actually true. marinate on that for a bit.

I'm trying to understand the basis for your seemingly rock solid assurance of guilt. Have you seen something compelling or are you simply trusting that some evidence must exist because the NFL issued a bunch of quotes saying that they're convinced that they made the right decision?
I don't have rock solid assurances of guilt.

I have serious questions. There is strong reason to believe something happened. Questions Elliott has mostly avoided answering, especially in front of league questions.

So far I've seen pictures of bruises and some quotes from the NFL. I would think that if there is compelling evidence that Zeke gave this woman the bruises, we should have heard about this evidence by now, and it likely would have formed the basis for a criminal charge against him.
Criminal charges often have little to do with whether the prosecutors or investigators believe took place. Frankly, the criminal charge alibi is a lazy one. Or did we not learn that from what happened in Waco.

Again, other than trusting that the NFL must be correct because of the conviction present in their quotes from a press release, what makes you so certain that your position is correct?
I don't have a position. Let's be clear. I've seen reasons to take this matter very seriously and I'd like to know what happened.,

The NFL is telling us that he beat that girl three different times.

Elliott has told us nothing of substance.
 
I think you're overreacting. The criminal justice system is where this should be addressed. I don't think the NFL was created to police woman-beating.
That's a different conversation. I don't know that I disagree. However, this is who the league now says it is and if the NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE is going to tell me one of its most popular players abused a woman three times, I'm not going to ignore that.

That goes against every piece of moral code I have.
 
@gkketch

Do you think that was Benjen Stark riding next to the Night Thing in previews for next week. That could pay dividends if true.

Too good to be true, prob.
I didn't even notice that.[/QUOTE]

can't believe i typed Night Thing instead of Night King. Wow. Embarrassing.

I didn't like the way LF looked at Arya after she displayed her skill vs. Brienne last episode.

Now Arya is full on suspicious of Sansa and appears to be able to read her mind.

I think LF is screwing with Arya right now to inflame her anger vs. Sansa.

Think we're going to see Stark on Stark crime--- or do you think Bran might save the day?
 
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